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[Grun7mas7er]

DullahansXMark wrote...

The consensus (at least, that I've seen) is that the Typhoon is a terribad weapon. Yet the higher-level players such as Uh Cold and Lord_Sirian seem to believe it's one of the most amazing weapons in the game.

My question is... why? If it's really so good, what am I (and many others) doing wrong? Why don't we see what you see? How do I use this thing so that it's better than most other guns? How do I use it so that I wouldn't rather just use the superior-damaging and less mule-kicking PPR? I don't get why anyone would ever use this gun, which is why I'm so confused about why the high-tier players claim it's so good!

(Mine is only at Level 2, though. Is that the only real issue with the gun, that it's not so good at low levels?)

It's the multiplier. More noticeable on higher-level Typhoons, hence high-level players praising the weapon. SImilar case with the PPR. 

I don't use it all that much since the Destroyer nerf, which was synonymous with Typhoon nerf (to me, at least). I'll consider giving it a second chance if/when I get it to X.

[BattleCop88]

Titus Thongger wrote...

harrier is too main stream and sounds like a piddly squirt gun.

typhoon is for REAAAAAAL MANLY MEN.

Yeah well the typhoon is more like a fat man. It's heavy like a powerful UR should be, but it shoots like a Rare. That's why I think it feels underwhelming, OP. The weight is only reasonable for pre nerf typhoon.

[Epsilon330]

Try putting it on a class that scoffs at cooldowns, like a Juggernaut-build Geth Trooper, Demolisher or Destroyer. The only problems with it are weight and stability. The latter can be corrected with Weapon mods.
It's a lot like the PPR. It's rather weak when it starts up, but when it gets going it'll eat ATLASes for breakfast.

[rupinderpaul]

 

http://social.biowar...index/15215323/

[Ledgend1221]

I've tried it out and it doesn't perform at all.
I'm willing to bet that the people who say it's amazing are the same people who have it at X and get two lvl IV ammo cards in PSPs.

[Tyrannus00]

I've got like a Typhoon...II.

This thing runs through an atlas in I think two clips or so. It's pretty wicked, though it DOES make you stay out of cover if you want to move anywhere.

[Zorinho20_CRO]

I have the Typhoon and PPR at lv X(not bragging) and I never understand,why people praise PPR over Typhoon.
Ok,it is much lighter and has infinite ammo,but Typhoon feels much more powerful,especially after BW fixed that terrible recoil.
I played yesterday with TSol+PPR+Incendiary ammo on Platinum and I could kill only boss units.I never felt so helpless against Phantoms and other fast moving enemies.
After the Harrier,Typhoon is my second choice for soldiers.

Modifié par zorinho20, 10 décembre 2012 - 08:24 .

[Titus Thongger]

Ledgend1221 wrote...

I've tried it out and it doesn't perform at all.
I'm willing to bet that the people who say it's amazing are the same people who have it at X and get two lvl IV ammo cards in PSPs.

well, you got me there.

it's pretty boss on the turian soldier. with the turian passives (37.5%), proxy mine debuff (20%), headshot bonus (30% from passive + the ?% from marksman) you can annihilate a banshee with in about 10 seconds.

[GroverA125]

Typhoon is in no way bad. Granted, it's not as good as it was in the early days of its release, where it was on the same level as the Harrier (which it deserves more than the harrier to be honest), but even now it's still pretty damn good, even at low levels. The only reason a lot of people dislike it (including to a part me) is that it is the heaviest AR in the game, has a spooling time, a significant kick to it, runs out of ammo shockingly fast (400 spare don't go very far on a weapon that spins through a 180 mag in a couple of seconds) and requires complete exposure to get maximum output, or any output at all (like the PPR). It has all of these issues, and yet it's outpowered by weapons such as the Harrier, which only has to worry about ammo, and can pop back in and out of cover without penalty and is light enough to be used on many classes without major punishment in recharge times.

The Typhoons weight severely hampers its usability, to the point where only a select few classes can effectively carry it, let alone get output at the level of Harrier users. It deserves a bit more power for a weapon that can only be effectively carried by a select few classes (and the majority of this select few are soldiers) to justify using it over the other, weightless-in-comparison weapons.

[AppealToReason]

It used to melt things naked, now it melts things geared out.

Using it naked makes it ****ing atrocious and I can't keep AR/SG amps in stock.

[Lathlaer]

I'd like to point out some things that make it better than the harrier, but I think I'll let it pass and let more people complain about it.

That way maybe BioWare will consider a small buff. As I've said earlier, they could either change the ramp up damage from 1.5 to 1.7 or, and I like this better, give it more boost against protections (from 50 to maybe 70%).

[sirdario1986]

Why?
Cause it's heavy as a cement mixer.

[STRANGE10VE]

Much better boss killer than mook killer. Best on tursol. Accuracy is the problem not damage. I used it on the firing range in single player and the spread is every bit as bad as the revenant.

[TouchedByYou]

TxC_Denali2012 wrote...

I agree with you, although I really do want to like this gun. I want to try it on a Turian Soldier or the new Quarian under Marksman, with fire rate increase and head shot damage. I am probably grasping at straws here, but the weapon looks so cool, and I really do want to like it. Thing is, I do not like the Destroyer. Blasphemy right?

Use it on the Turian.  The Quarian doesn't get the stabilization passives, so the Turian is much better with it.  Thermal Scope (yes a scope) + Mag Size (Piercing Mod if you want/need to use a diff ammo type) + any AP ammo = fun.  The thermal scope is for added stability and accuracy.  It has damn good accuracy with Marksman.  This just wrecks, as long as your stability bonuses don't glitch out, but if you host then that's not a problem.  I normally run this with a Hurricane as a backup.  Because the ammo goes poof so fast.  Honestly, when I use it on the Turian I rarely use proximity mine, even though it gives that debuff.  But the cooldown is so slow with this setup that the debuff rarely matters.  Spamming Marksman is what I do most the time with it.  It's really fun to play when you get used to it.  

Although it can work on the Quarian he can't always stay out long enough to get the ramp up going.  But tactical scan recharges nice and fast so Tac Scan > Unload > Marksman would work wonders I'm sure.  With the Quarian you're going to want to shoot from hard cover as often as possible since you get damage reduction plus the increased stability on the typhoon while shooting from hard cover. 

You definitely don't need to be on a Destroyer to use it.  Using it on a TGI is loads of fun.  I prefer my PPR on the TGI though, but whenever I want to have some fun I'll put on the Typhoon.  The Destroyer just gets a nic,e chunk of extra ammo for it.  I personally hate the Destroyer as well.  I suck with it.  

Edit: Just took my Quarian Soldier into a match to test the stability.  It's actually not as bad as I thought it was.  With the Thermal Scope and Barrage Gear V there wasn't too much of a kick as long as I zoomed in.  -12% recharge speed gives Tac Scan a 2.92 second cooldown, and marksman a 5.36 second cooldown (Speccd for Accuracy and Rate of Fire).  Whereas on the Turian the same weapon setup is +27% recharge speed and gives Proximity Mine (speccd for cooldown) a 5.21 second cooldown and Marksman (speccd the same as the quarian) a 3.95 second cooldown.  So, it's really preference I suppose.  With the Turian, you have more health and shields than the Quarian already, plus you won't have to use a Barrage Gear, you could instead opt for more shields, more power cooldown, etc. 

Modifié par TouchedByYou, 10 décembre 2012 - 10:09 .

[Deerber]

DullahansXMark wrote...

The consensus (at least, that I've seen) is that the Typhoon is a terribad weapon. Yet the higher-level players such as Uh Cold and Lord_Sirian seem to believe it's one of the most amazing weapons in the game.

My question is... why? If it's really so good, what am I (and many others) doing wrong? Why don't we see what you see? How do I use this thing so that it's better than most other guns? How do I use it so that I wouldn't rather just use the superior-damaging and less mule-kicking PPR? I don't get why anyone would ever use this gun, which is why I'm so confused about why the high-tier players claim it's so good!

(Mine is only at Level 2, though. Is that the only real issue with the gun, that it's not so good at low levels?)

I love the Typhoon. Know why? Because it's a niche weapon. It's what people do not understand, I guess. Therefore they call it bad, because they expect it to perform like a harrier, be much better than average on any kit, anytime. That's just not the case.

The Typhoon is not very good at killing mooks. Sure, you can make it work, especially at high levels, but a harrier will always do better. So will a PPR.

But bosses? There's absolutely no gun in this game that melts bosses as fast as the typhoon does. And everyone saying PPR probably say that just based on theory-crafting. In practice, as Feneckus showed in a vid, it's different.

So, you wanna kill mooks? Don't use it.

You want to kill anything (except maybe possessed praetorians), even on platinum, in just one clip? The Typhoon is definitely the gun for you then.

Use it as it's supposed to be used, and you'll love it, even at level 2. Bring it on platinum, with lots of bosses around, and start enjoying the rambo feeling 

[mybudgee]

Anything the typhoon can do the PPR can do so much better...

[Titus Thongger]

mybudgee wrote...

Anything the typhoon can do the PPR can do so much better...

PPR can't stagger :3

[Xaijin]

Titus Thongger wrote...

mybudgee wrote...

Anything the typhoon can do the PPR can do so much better...

PPR can't stagger :3

Sure it can, put exp or incend on it.

[Deerber]

mybudgee wrote...

Anything the PPR can do the typhoon can do so much better...

Fixed 

[djidane_57]

Deerber wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

The consensus (at least, that I've seen) is that the Typhoon is a terribad weapon. Yet the higher-level players such as Uh Cold and Lord_Sirian seem to believe it's one of the most amazing weapons in the game.

My question is... why? If it's really so good, what am I (and many others) doing wrong? Why don't we see what you see? How do I use this thing so that it's better than most other guns? How do I use it so that I wouldn't rather just use the superior-damaging and less mule-kicking PPR? I don't get why anyone would ever use this gun, which is why I'm so confused about why the high-tier players claim it's so good!

(Mine is only at Level 2, though. Is that the only real issue with the gun, that it's not so good at low levels?)

I love the Typhoon. Know why? Because it's a niche weapon. It's what people do not understand, I guess. Therefore they call it bad, because they expect it to perform like a harrier, be much better than average on any kit, anytime. That's just not the case.

The Typhoon is not very good at killing mooks. Sure, you can make it work, especially at high levels, but a harrier will always do better. So will a PPR.

But bosses? There's absolutely no gun in this game that melts bosses as fast as the typhoon does. And everyone saying PPR probably say that just based on theory-crafting. In practice, as Feneckus showed in a vid, it's different.

So, you wanna kill mooks? Don't use it.

You want to kill anything (except maybe possessed praetorians), even on platinum, in just one clip? The Typhoon is definitely the gun for you then.

Use it as it's supposed to be used, and you'll love it, even at level 2. Bring it on platinum, with lots of bosses around, and start enjoying the rambo feeling 

u saying you can kill a platinum atlas or prime in one clip?

[Lathlaer]

djidane_57 wrote...

Deerber wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

The consensus (at least, that I've seen) is that the Typhoon is a terribad weapon. Yet the higher-level players such as Uh Cold and Lord_Sirian seem to believe it's one of the most amazing weapons in the game.

My question is... why? If it's really so good, what am I (and many others) doing wrong? Why don't we see what you see? How do I use this thing so that it's better than most other guns? How do I use it so that I wouldn't rather just use the superior-damaging and less mule-kicking PPR? I don't get why anyone would ever use this gun, which is why I'm so confused about why the high-tier players claim it's so good!

(Mine is only at Level 2, though. Is that the only real issue with the gun, that it's not so good at low levels?)

I love the Typhoon. Know why? Because it's a niche weapon. It's what people do not understand, I guess. Therefore they call it bad, because they expect it to perform like a harrier, be much better than average on any kit, anytime. That's just not the case.

The Typhoon is not very good at killing mooks. Sure, you can make it work, especially at high levels, but a harrier will always do better. So will a PPR.

But bosses? There's absolutely no gun in this game that melts bosses as fast as the typhoon does. And everyone saying PPR probably say that just based on theory-crafting. In practice, as Feneckus showed in a vid, it's different.

So, you wanna kill mooks? Don't use it.

You want to kill anything (except maybe possessed praetorians), even on platinum, in just one clip? The Typhoon is definitely the gun for you then.

Use it as it's supposed to be used, and you'll love it, even at level 2. Bring it on platinum, with lots of bosses around, and start enjoying the rambo feeling 

u saying you can kill a platinum atlas or prime in one clip?

Atlas yes, prime no

At least I was able to kill gold atlas with Typhoon IV + AP IV + EB V + Magazine V. With Typhoon X and AR rail III I imagine you could. The thing is, if antyhing kills atlas in one clip, it does so because of the canopy glitch.

[sabientje67]

Uh Cold wrote...

The only class I use it on is Tsol which is the best class for it.

The best class for it in my opinion is the human soldier/BF3 soldier. With AR they get a reload without having to stop firing, 70% extra damage and 100% more shields.

[Deerber]

djidane_57 wrote...

Deerber wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

The consensus (at least, that I've seen) is that the Typhoon is a terribad weapon. Yet the higher-level players such as Uh Cold and Lord_Sirian seem to believe it's one of the most amazing weapons in the game.

My question is... why? If it's really so good, what am I (and many others) doing wrong? Why don't we see what you see? How do I use this thing so that it's better than most other guns? How do I use it so that I wouldn't rather just use the superior-damaging and less mule-kicking PPR? I don't get why anyone would ever use this gun, which is why I'm so confused about why the high-tier players claim it's so good!

(Mine is only at Level 2, though. Is that the only real issue with the gun, that it's not so good at low levels?)

I love the Typhoon. Know why? Because it's a niche weapon. It's what people do not understand, I guess. Therefore they call it bad, because they expect it to perform like a harrier, be much better than average on any kit, anytime. That's just not the case.

The Typhoon is not very good at killing mooks. Sure, you can make it work, especially at high levels, but a harrier will always do better. So will a PPR.

But bosses? There's absolutely no gun in this game that melts bosses as fast as the typhoon does. And everyone saying PPR probably say that just based on theory-crafting. In practice, as Feneckus showed in a vid, it's different.

So, you wanna kill mooks? Don't use it.

You want to kill anything (except maybe possessed praetorians), even on platinum, in just one clip? The Typhoon is definitely the gun for you then.

Use it as it's supposed to be used, and you'll love it, even at level 2. Bring it on platinum, with lots of bosses around, and start enjoying the rambo feeling 

u saying you can kill a platinum atlas or prime in one clip?

If put on the right class, with the right equipment... You'll need roughly 2/3 of the clip for an Atlas, probably 1/2 for a Prime.

Or something like that. My numbers might be a bit off, but if you've got all the clip oooooh you can riddle everything with bullets.

[Xaio]

DullahansXMark wrote...

The consensus (at least, that I've seen) is that the Typhoon is a terribad weapon. Yet the higher-level players such as Uh Cold and Lord_Sirian seem to believe it's one of the most amazing weapons in the game.

My question is... why? If it's really so good, what am I (and many others) doing wrong? Why don't we see what you see? How do I use this thing so that it's better than most other guns? How do I use it so that I wouldn't rather just use the superior-damaging and less mule-kicking PPR? I don't get why anyone would ever use this gun, which is why I'm so confused about why the high-tier players claim it's so good!

(Mine is only at Level 2, though. Is that the only real issue with the gun, that it's not so good at low levels?)

The way I see it, the Typhoon isn't strong damage-wise but you're open the whole time you're firing and even on Silver, you're sheilds last like 5-7 seconds, probably not enough to get in the rounds you need.  Futhermore, heavy recoil prevents headshots from most ranges, preventing optimal damage before your shields break.  I like how Bioware created a completely useless type of weapons though.

[Kenadian]

Uh Cold wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

Uh Cold wrote...

The only class I use it on is Tsol which is the best class for it.

Because of Marksman and stability, right? Would it still be okay on the Quarian Marksman? Because my Turian mostly runs as a Krysae-based sniper, and if he's this gun's best application, I'm out of options >_>

You can use it on the Qsol but you will be pushing down a lot more to control the recoil and relying on cover for stability for those really long distances.
It's way more efficient on the Tsol, personally I run harrier/hurricane on my Qsol.

Using it on the Tsol over Qsol will also benefit the headshot bonuses from MM because of better stability to aim at the head.

HSol is good for it too. AR specced out of duration, you can hit AR again literally just as the clip is about to finish and fire again...and again....and again.