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[SkaTeeB]

Bioware has said that the console patch was going to be released on 1/5 with Return to Ostagar.  Since they've apparently delayed RtO indefinitely, what is the status of the console patch?

Is it inextricably linked to RtO?  If it is, I wonder if we'll ever see it...

Please, please please let Mass Effect 2 have a different support and dlc group than DA:O.  I'd hate for that to get ruined too.

[Taiko Roshi]

+1

I guess we made the mistake of buying a PC to console port made by a third party. All we can do is learn from our mistakes and never do it again. So no thanks to any more DLC or the expansions, I would be surprised if a patch was made before the expansion came out. Looks like EA/BW is no different to any other developer when it comes to making a mess of ports and then leaving it to die in the gutter. A shame really, what a waste of money. I bought the CE *facepalm* what an idiot. Oh well, three months is a long enough grace period. I'm returning my game and demanding a full refund. I advise any one else who has a bugged console port to do the same.

Modifié par Taiko Roshi, 05 janvier 2010 - 11:03 .

[HolyRomanCousinConsort]

It's bad that even the patch got delayed, since it should not be tied to RoT. The 1.02 pc patch was not tied to Ostagar at all. But DA main game is excellent, runs very smoothly and has few bugs, so why are you considering returning the game?

The bugs like +healing items not working are very minor. The rest of the game is very fun and fully playable.

Modifié par HolyRomanCousinConsort, 05 janvier 2010 - 11:02 .

[Sloth Of Doom]

Oh noes, noaw u haz to wate?



Have fun attempting to return your game because they don't patch fast enough for you.

[Taiko Roshi]

HolyRomanCousinConsort wrote...

It's bad that even the patch got delayed, since it should not be tied to RoT. The 1.02 pc patch was not tied to Ostagar at all. But DA main game is excellent, runs very smoothly and has few bugs, so why are you considering returning the game?

The bugs like +healing items not working are very minor. The rest of the game is very fun and fully playable.

Sure, bugs like memory leaks that corrupt your save files after 40+ hours of game play = broken game and full refund. Why don't you take the time to have a look at the 360 tech forum to see ALL of the game breaking bugs for the ported version, before making yourself look like a complete fool.

[Taiko Roshi]

Sloth Of Doom wrote...

Oh noes, noaw u haz to wate?

Have fun attempting to return your game because they don't patch fast enough for you.

Let me guess a PC player? Waiting three months for a patch to fix fundamental game breaking bugs is just not good enough considering how much money I spent on this game. The game is broken and has not been fixed, I have every right to return it for a full refund.

Modifié par Taiko Roshi, 05 janvier 2010 - 11:10 .

[HolyRomanCousinConsort]

Taiko Roshi wrote...

HolyRomanCousinConsort wrote...

It's bad that even the patch got delayed, since it should not be tied to RoT. The 1.02 pc patch was not tied to Ostagar at all. But DA main game is excellent, runs very smoothly and has few bugs, so why are you considering returning the game?

The bugs like +healing items not working are very minor. The rest of the game is very fun and fully playable.

Sure, bugs like memory leaks that corrupt your save files after 40+ hours of game play = broken game and full refund. Why don't you take the time to have a look at the 360 tech forum to see ALL of the game breaking bugs for the ported version, before making yourself look like a complete fool.

haha that's mean calling me a fool, I only played the PC version and it was very smooth. I just checked the Xbox forum and you are right, the corrupted saved bug is really game-breaking. Something like that should have been fixed 1 month after release, heck even 1 week, and now it has been 2 months. I would be frustrated too in your position.

[WelshDragon69]

May be a dumb question, but does the PC patch work for the MAC version, or will that be a separate release?

[kraidy1117]

Great, so I have to wait longer to have fun with a Rouge because of the stupid Dex bug that has not been fix yet, or the point that stealing is still useless?



The thing is, it's almost been three months now and there is still no patch. Realy only the Mage is fun to play, that's it. Rouge is broken and alot of the Warriors armor and weapons don't work or in the game. They need to patch the game ASAP, if Bioware has been to the tech boards they would know the game is unstable and the dreaded landsmeet corrupt saves nees\\ds to be fixed because this is very very dire.

[ladydesire]

Don't complain to Bioware for the delay in your patch; take it up with whomever made your console of choice, since they are the holdup.

[Abriael_CG]

Actually, i'm starting to think that it's not RtO that delayed the patch, but the other way around. While an 1.5 hours DLC is just data inserted in the toolkit, and as such it should be fairly foolproof, the patch dabbles with the code of the game, so there could have been many more things that went wrong there, causing the delay. Of course mine is just speculation, but logic tells me that a DLC that simply adds content shouldn't cause that many problems. A patch? Much more likely.

[Taiko Roshi]

ladydesire wrote...

Don't complain to Bioware for the delay in your patch; take it up with whomever made your console of choice, since they are the holdup.

That has to be the most vapid response I have read on the internet in quite some time. Please, we get it, you are a insipid fanboy. Go play on your EA/BW is the greatest threads. The fact is the 360 version of the game is broken, MS is not responsible for producing a patch to fix it EA/BW is. An example, Gearbox has patched the 360 version of Borderlands THREE times since its release at the end of October, two of those patches were major overhauls to fix the most serious bugs. What have EA/BW done in nearly three months. NOTHING!

Modifié par Taiko Roshi, 05 janvier 2010 - 11:36 .

[xCobalt]

ladydesire wrote...

Don't complain to Bioware for the delay in your patch; take it up with whomever made your console of choice, since they are the holdup.

Hey look! Ignorance!

[ladydesire]

Taiko Roshi wrote...

ladydesire wrote...

Don't complain to Bioware for the delay in your patch; take it up with whomever made your console of choice, since they are the holdup.

That has to be the most vapid response I have read on the internet in quite some time. Please, we get it, you are a insipid fanboy. Go play on your EA/BW is the greatest threads. The fact is the 360 version of the game is broken, MS is not responsible for producing a patch to fix it EA/BW is. An example, Gearbox has patched the 360 version of Borderlands THREE times since its release at the end of October, two of those patches were major overhauls to fix the most serious bugs. What have EA/BW done in nearly three months. NOTHING!

I'm not claiming that Microsoft should be patching the game for Bioware; what I'm saying is that the patch needs to be approved by Microsoft before Bioware can put it on XBox Live for you to download. I'm also not saying that Bioware hasn't done anything to fix your problem; what I'm saying is that if they have submitted patches that haven't been kicked back to Bioware because they failed some required test, it's Microsoft that is holding up you getting the patch.

[Taiko Roshi]

ladydesire wrote...

Taiko Roshi wrote...

ladydesire wrote...

Don't complain to Bioware for the delay in your patch; take it up with whomever made your console of choice, since they are the holdup.

That has to be the most vapid response I have read on the internet in quite some time. Please, we get it, you are a insipid fanboy. Go play on your EA/BW is the greatest threads. The fact is the 360 version of the game is broken, MS is not responsible for producing a patch to fix it EA/BW is. An example, Gearbox has patched the 360 version of Borderlands THREE times since its release at the end of October, two of those patches were major overhauls to fix the most serious bugs. What have EA/BW done in nearly three months. NOTHING!

I'm not claiming that Microsoft should be patching the game for Bioware; what I'm saying is that the patch needs to be approved by Microsoft before Bioware can put it on XBox Live for you to download. I'm also not saying that Bioware hasn't done anything to fix your problem; what I'm saying is that if they have submitted patches that haven't been kicked back to Bioware because they failed some required test, it's Microsoft that is holding up you getting the patch.

Again more insipid fanboy logic. How can it be MS fault if BW can't make a patch that passes clear well stated guidelines? EA/BW has had nearly three months to work on this. Gearbox has had no problems patching their game on the 360 three times in the last couple of months.

Modifié par Taiko Roshi, 05 janvier 2010 - 11:57 .

[SkaTeeB]

ladydesire wrote...

Taiko Roshi wrote...

ladydesire wrote...

Don't complain to Bioware for the delay in your patch; take it up with whomever made your console of choice, since they are the holdup.

That has to be the most vapid response I have read on the internet in quite some time. Please, we get it, you are a insipid fanboy. Go play on your EA/BW is the greatest threads. The fact is the 360 version of the game is broken, MS is not responsible for producing a patch to fix it EA/BW is. An example, Gearbox has patched the 360 version of Borderlands THREE times since its release at the end of October, two of those patches were major overhauls to fix the most serious bugs. What have EA/BW done in nearly three months. NOTHING!

I'm not claiming that Microsoft should be patching the game for Bioware; what I'm saying is that the patch needs to be approved by Microsoft before Bioware can put it on XBox Live for you to download. I'm also not saying that Bioware hasn't done anything to fix your problem; what I'm saying is that if they have submitted patches that haven't been kicked back to Bioware because they failed some required test, it's Microsoft that is holding up you getting the patch.

If the patch failed a *required* test and got kicked back to Bioware, that's BIOWARE holding the patch up not Microsoft or Sony.  Any delay here is strictly a Bioware issue unless your contention is that Microsoft and Sony are deliberately slowing down or delaying the release of a patch.

Gearbox has definitely been able to support their game when they've encountered issues and submit patches through Microsoft's XBOX Live process at a commendable pace.  Why has Bioware not been able to adequately support their console versions?  Maybe they're doing too much; at least 2 titles in development (ME2 and Star Wars MMO), releasing DA:O on multiple platforms, continuing development on new DLC for DA:O, etc.

It seems like they're really overextended.  That'll really suck if they can't support ME2 once it comes out; I'm a huge fan of that franchise and would hate to see it go down in flames.

[xCobalt]

ladydesire wrote...
I'm not claiming that Microsoft should be patching the game for Bioware; what I'm saying is that the patch needs to be approved by Microsoft before Bioware can put it on XBox Live for you to download. I'm also not saying that Bioware hasn't done anything to fix your problem; what I'm saying is that if they have submitted patches that haven't been kicked back to Bioware because they failed some required test, it's Microsoft that is holding up you getting the patch.

Wut?

How is that Microsoft's fault?

[Taiko Roshi]

"It seems like they're really overextended. That'll really suck if they can't support ME2 once it comes out; I'm a huge fan of that franchise and would hate to see it go down in flames."



This is what is starting to concern me now too. I don't care much about DA:O anymore simply because it feels like EA/BW has abandon the console version of the game, but if this happens with ME2 then that will be very disturbing indeed.

[ladydesire]

SkaTeeB wrote...

If the patch failed a *required* test and got kicked back to Bioware, that's BIOWARE holding the patch up not Microsoft or Sony.  Any delay here is strictly a Bioware issue unless your contention is that Microsoft and Sony are deliberately slowing down or delaying the release of a patch.

We don't know when the last submission was (I don't think Bioware is really legally required to keep us updated on such things, while it is good for appearance sake), so we don't know if it's even been looked at by the team responsible for approving such things.

Gearbox has definitely been able to support their game when they've encountered issues and submit patches through Microsoft's XBOX Live process at a commendable pace.

How many platforms are they responsible for patching?

Why has Bioware not been able to adequately support their console versions?

Common code base for all three platforms, most likely, which means that they need to have the most recent PC patch code stabilized before submitting patches for other platforms, which also means that any bugs that exist in one platform most likely exist in all of them.

Maybe they're doing too much; at least 2 titles in development (ME2 and Star Wars MMO), releasing DA:O on multiple platforms, continuing development on new DLC for DA:O, etc.

Star Wars: The Old Republic is Bioware Austin; ME2 and DA (including the upcoming expansion) are Bioware Edmonton, which has separate teams for each game, and for the DLC for each.

[Taiko Roshi]

Gearbox has been patching all three platforms.

[I Valente I]

i thought you were returning the game...

[Lohe]

...and there are several other examples how fast patches can go through Microsofts certification systems. I dont think its just MS. But its possibly an easy excuse. As long as there is no patch-log with all fixes, Ill repeat this opinion here. If there has been a patch-file sent to MS already, a patch-log would be easy to post. Here is none, so there isnt anything to check. Beside this:



26th December : RtO combined with title update#1 -> No.

05th January : RtO combined with title update#1 -> No.



What else to think? Tell me :-)

[SkaTeeB]

All I know is we'll probably not see any info from Bioware staff on the status of the patch. The last mention I heard of it was over a month ago, and that was just a post noting that it was going to be released with RtO (that turned out well). They're very active in the 200+ page thread talking about RtO's delay, but that's mostly to chastise the people there for being impatient and warn them about insulting each other. Delaying a new product or DLC because of a QA issue is great since we have to deal with fewer bugs, so I'm glad they're holding RtO back. What hurts (for me) is what feels like an extremely long release cycle for the console title update, especially compared to the support other companies are able to give for their products. It makes me think the maintenance staff for DA:O isn't as large or well put together as their DLC staff appears to be.... or else they wouldn't be able to do so much DLC and so very little patching to fix what they already have out. And it will only get worse.



Bioware keeps saying EA is handling the support issues, but in reality EA support is no help since they believe literally every issue is a gameplay problem (i.e. "you don't know how to play the game correctly") even if you are getting consistently reproducible corrupt save games or the game crashes. They even say in the console forums here that they are not responsible for support adn that the forums exist for us to help each other. If EA is useless and Bioware isn't responsible that means we're on our own, I guess...

[KCFender]

This issue isn't a delay. I have the PC version, for which I am grateful, because my friend has a 360 version.

It sucks. For him, at least.

He doesn't have constant internet access. There was nothing on the game packaging to tell him he would need constant connectivity to access all of the game. He used a relative's internet to DL The Stone Prisoner and the Blood Dragon armor, content that were supposed to be his upon purchase of the game.

But the game doesn't recognize any of the DLC when he's not online - which he rarely ever gets to be. The "workarounds" don't work for him, either (and are rather inane and uncalled for either way). So part of what he purchased simply doesn't work. I myself have never seen XBox DLC with so many problems. And when someone buys something that doesn't work: they have the right to be upset.

So I personally know of one ex-BioWare fan that legitimately has lost his patience over this further "delay" of his game working properly.

Luckily for him Mass Effect is a lot less likely to experience this BS, but I'm not sure he knows that or cares.

[Ulous]

SkaTeeB wrote...

All I know is we'll probably not see any info from Bioware staff on the status of the patch. The last mention I heard of it was over a month ago, and that was just a post noting that it was going to be released with RtO (that turned out well). They're very active in the 200+ page thread talking about RtO's delay, but that's mostly to chastise the people there for being impatient and warn them about insulting each other. Delaying a new product or DLC because of a QA issue is great since we have to deal with fewer bugs, so I'm glad they're holding RtO back. What hurts (for me) is what feels like an extremely long release cycle for the console title update, especially compared to the support other companies are able to give for their products. It makes me think the maintenance staff for DA:O isn't as large or well put together as their DLC staff appears to be.... or else they wouldn't be able to do so much DLC and so very little patching to fix what they already have out. And it will only get worse.

Bioware keeps saying EA is handling the support issues, but in reality EA support is no help since they believe literally every issue is a gameplay problem (i.e. "you don't know how to play the game correctly") even if you are getting consistently reproducible corrupt save games or the game crashes. They even say in the console forums here that they are not responsible for support adn that the forums exist for us to help each other. If EA is useless and Bioware isn't responsible that means we're on our own, I guess...

I try my hardest not to jump on the "EA is evil and don't give a **** about their customers" bandwagon, but its hard not to when you have suffered their incompetence as much as I have.