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Replace 1 skill of an underperforming class with a better one


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#51
Stardusk

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Krogan Shaman, Shockwave> Flare

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SexyGeth

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Quarian Marksman: Replace Sabotage with Arc Grenades.

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Storm-Reaver

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Asari Just-a-car: Pull -> Barrier

Wha?

#54
HoochieHamiltoe

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SexyGeth wrote...

Quarian Marksman: Replace Sabotage with Arc Grenades.


Then he will have the same 2 skills as the Engineer and Infiltrator!!:blink:

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Lol, You know, empty nova is a good tactic if you get the recharge speed evo in nova, after two empty novas you will get near instant power recharge allowing you to charge -> nova -> charge

Also you can charge and wait until your charge is recharged to nova safely.

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Gpof wrote...

Volus Mercenary... nevermind he's hopeless.

             

I use him on Platinum. x)

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Shawn22OS wrote...

SexyGeth wrote...

Quarian Marksman: Replace Sabotage with Arc Grenades.


Then he will have the same 2 skills as the Engineer and Infiltrator!!:blink:


Better then a diffrent skill that sucks.:whistle:

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HoochieHamiltoe

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SexyGeth wrote...

Shawn22OS wrote...

SexyGeth wrote...

Quarian Marksman: Replace Sabotage with Arc Grenades.


Then he will have the same 2 skills as the Engineer and Infiltrator!!:blink:


Better then a diffrent skill that sucks.:whistle:


I think Inferno Grenades would make him a little more unique. The last thing we need is characters with the same identities. 

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FQE:  Replace Cryoblast with Sabotage.  Sabo-->Incinerate FTW

MQS: Replace Sabotage with Arc Grenades

Havoc: Replace Cryoblast with Concussive Shot.  Fix Havoc Strike.

KroDept: Replace Shockwave with Cluster Nades.  Slow moving Barrier+Nades would be awesome.

GS: Replace Flamer with Snap Freeze.

V.Hunter: Replace... no idea.  Maybe Flamer / Overload combo?

Volus: Replace Volus with Salarian.

Kroldier: Replace Fortification with (fixed) Blade Armor.  Heh.


Yeah, some are not underperforming, but whatever.

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Also Deerber, I have no intention in wasting an hour of my life watching someone else solo. If I had an hour of my life to waste, don't you think I'd be the one soloing?

Also in the small time period of Nova Cancelling you are outputting exactly zero damage unless your running DOT Ammo. All I've been saying is that there are classes that can survive as well as the Novaguard but output twice the damage. The QMI for example has Arc Grenades, an excellent AOE CC ability that not only deals incredibly damage to mooks. It also allows you free time to Cloak and unload a clip of X weapon, you kill ****, you take no damage (why? because well... they are all dead or re-stagger by the time Arc Nade stun effect wears off) And seriously it's not just Infiltrators, Grenade classes are also superior (admittedly a little unfair given they have AOE Multi-Target Prime and/or Detonate capabilities).and even the Havoc can do aswell. I haven ever once had a game as one of the many classes I've mentioned and though... "Hmm would've been smother with a Novaguard..." Though I've had one or two Novaguard matches where I've thought "Eh... bored..." Seriously I'm not debating that the class is bad, I already said about 7 times that it's good, it's just not what it's cracked up to be. It's a nice, noob friendly jack of all trades, but it certainly isn't one of the better classes in the game.

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The Mark needs something to keep himself alive, all other soldiers have either massive shields or something to restore health or shields.

replace marksman with adrenaline rush.

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LuckyBullet95

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Again Cao, in the time it takes you to empty nova on the spot, another class has already cleared the spawn, and they never died either...

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Richter Harken wrote...

Krogan Vanguard. Replace Carnage with Annihilation field.
Trolololol


No, no! Replace Carnage with Flare. Krogans enjoy throwing bombs.

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CaoSlayer

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What class without grenades can clear clear a spawn so fast?

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Jarno Mikkola

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Uchimura wrote...
All instances of Cryo Blast with Snap Freeze. Haw.

Yep, the Turian Havok would be like a god then after... not that the CB is bad either.
Batarian Sentinel:

Blade Armor. -> Spike armor, same kind, but with a x10 to enemy damage, and no damage resistance, but it kills the sync killers too.
Shockwave.
Submission Net. -> Anything else, the power is way too nerfed now.

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LuckyBullet95 wrote...

Also Deerber, I have no intention in wasting an hour of my life watching someone else solo. If I had an hour of my life to waste, don't you think I'd be the one soloing?

Also in the small time period of Nova Cancelling you are outputting exactly zero damage unless your running DOT Ammo. All I've been saying is that there are classes that can survive as well as the Novaguard but output twice the damage. The QMI for example has Arc Grenades, an excellent AOE CC ability that not only deals incredibly damage to mooks. It also allows you free time to Cloak and unload a clip of X weapon, you kill ****, you take no damage (why? because well... they are all dead or re-stagger by the time Arc Nade stun effect wears off) And seriously it's not just Infiltrators, Grenade classes are also superior (admittedly a little unfair given they have AOE Multi-Target Prime and/or Detonate capabilities).and even the Havoc can do aswell. I haven ever once had a game as one of the many classes I've mentioned and though... "Hmm would've been smother with a Novaguard..." Though I've had one or two Novaguard matches where I've thought "Eh... bored..." Seriously I'm not debating that the class is bad, I already said about 7 times that it's good, it's just not what it's cracked up to be. It's a nice, noob friendly jack of all trades, but it certainly isn't one of the better classes in the game.


About watching the solo, fair enough, to each his own.

I never said it's one of the best classes in the game. I merely objected that he's no average tank, as there are possibly no classes that can do that better than he does; and also that he's not noob-friendly at all. Each and every time a player who is obviously not experienced shows up in my lobby with a novaguard, I know I'll have to babysit him, as he'll be down most of the time.

Obviously his damage output is way inferior to the QMI's one, but that's not the point, as there's no way a QMI is going to tank a whole spawn on gold... Unless you have 10 ops pack to waste or something like that.

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BF3 Soldier: Replace Carnage with Hunter Mode.

FQE: Replace Cryo Blast with Arc Grenades. (Yeah it's like MQE but with sentry instead of tac scan)

HMI, HFI: Replace Sticky Grenade with Multi Frags. Cloaked carpet bombs away!

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InTheZone wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Cerberus Adept:

Singularity
Smash
Lash

Replace Lash with Tactical Cloak.

trolololo.


:devil:

Edit: SUDDENLY, MYSTERIOUS WHIPS


Mysterious!

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RoZh2400

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CaoSlayer wrote...

What class without grenades can clear clear a spawn so fast?


Melee spec GI. Killstreaks almost every gold/silver game I play. Sometimes platinum, too, but much more rare. Ironically, not in bronze because not enough stuff spawn in the same place.

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Stardusk wrote...

Krogan Shaman, Shockwave> Flare

Well, shockwave isn't useless. But then again, flare is a better power.

Modifié par robarcool, 10 décembre 2012 - 10:54 .


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RoZh2400 wrote...

CaoSlayer wrote...

What class without grenades can clear clear a spawn so fast?


Melee spec GI. Killstreaks almost every gold/silver game I play. Sometimes platinum, too, but much more rare. Ironically, not in bronze because not enough stuff spawn in the same place.


GI can blow spawns apart as fast as grenades classes even when not specced for melee. Geth cheaters... :whistle:

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  • To both the Vorcha Hunter and Baterian Sentinel. Replace submission net with Cryo Blast
  • Any class that uses frag grenades. Replace the frag grenades with either of the following. Inferno Grenades, Arc Grenades, Cryo Grenades, Homing Grenades, Multi-frag grenades.
  • To both the original human infiltrator and the female Quarian Infiltrator. Replace sticky grenade with flash bang grenades.
  • With the Quarian Marksman. Replace tactical scan with overload. Tech bursting soldier.
  • Replace Blade armour with anything. I love my Baterians. But blade armour is a little dull to be honest.
  • Oh for crying out loud! Can't we have one class that takes advantage of the "tech vulnerability" function of sabotage. Imagine a class that had Overload, Incinerate and Sabotage as it's powers. That is the best part of being an engineer in the single player campaign!
  • I'm actually stuck. The classes are pretty good on the whole. I really had to rack my brain to think of these. There isn't a single character I wouldn't play as. The only exception any character I haven't unlocked yet since I am yet to unlock them.


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Drell Adept

replace Lift Grenades with Throw

Yes, that's right! Reave > BE galore!

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DullahansXMark

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All kits:

Replace one skill with Tactical Cloak.
Replace another with Biotic Charge.
Replace another with Tech Armor.

HOLLA

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Asari Justicar, she's still an awesome character (and I love to play her) but pull is seriously lacklustre, especially on Gold/Platinum where virtually every enemy has barriers, shields or armour! Replace pull with either warp or throw?