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Replace 1 skill of an underperforming class with a better one

Débuté par TheKillerAngel , déc. 10 2012 09:10

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#76
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Posté 10 décembre 2012 - 11:06

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Deerber wrote...
GI can blow spawns apart as fast as grenades classes even when not specced for melee. Geth cheaters... :whistle:


All vans also can wipe spawns in seconds using a reegar, heck, I can solo gold with a volus adept against reapers using a reegar... geth was harder because all the stun lock everywhere.

The thing that I was trying to say is that as long as you never nova without having a charge ready, a vanguard is unkillable. All sync killers but praetorians can be kept close as long as you know how to avoid their instant kills.

The problem of the novaguard is that people is stupid and commit suicide by using nova everytime they charge regardless if it put them in a bad situation. Vanguards get damage resistance after charge and can endure a bit beofore thinking in nova that is mostly used to keep yourself alive.

Modifié par CaoSlayer, 10 décembre 2012 - 11:09 .

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Vic7im
Posté 10 décembre 2012 - 11:07

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N7 Slayer

Fitness with Shadow's Sword Mastery.

#78
OrvosVad
Posté 10 décembre 2012 - 11:10

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BatSol

Balistic Blades
Warp/Throw/Incinerate/anything actually useful!

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Posté 10 décembre 2012 - 11:17

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tyhw wrote...

I'd replace Stim packs on the Ghost with Inferno grenades. Then I'd like using the class


Lol that kit would be more over powered than it is now.

#80
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Posté 10 décembre 2012 - 11:23

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Human Infiltrator:

Replace Tactical Cloak with Cryo Blast
Replace Sticky Grenades with Tactical Cloak
Replace Cryo Blast with Sticky Grenades

#81
Cyrax86
Posté 10 décembre 2012 - 11:26

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QFI, replace Sabotage with any other Infiltrator power.

ED, OL, HM, PM, SP, TS, Arc G, > Sabotage, CB

#82
Major Durza
Posté 10 décembre 2012 - 11:28

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Quarian Marksman, Sabotage with Arc Grenades.

#83
UKStory135
Posté 10 décembre 2012 - 11:31

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Havoc: Havoc Strike w/ Biotic Charge
Novaguard: Shockwave w/ Annihilation Field
Justicar: Pull w/ Flair
HI: Sticky Grenades w/ any other type of Grenades
QI: Sticky Grenades w/ Arc Grenades
Drellguard: Pull w/ Dark Channel

#84
Scottus4
Posté 10 décembre 2012 - 11:37

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Vic7im wrote...

N7 Slayer

Fitness with Shadow's Sword Mastery.


No. Get out of here.

#85
Amusingthree93
Posté 10 décembre 2012 - 11:45

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Uchimura wrote...

All instances of Cryo Blast with Snap Freeze. Haw.

+1

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UKStory135
Posté 10 décembre 2012 - 11:49

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Vic7im wrote...

N7 Slayer

Fitness with Shadow's Sword Mastery.


He'd need higher base sheilds.  He's already kind of squishy.

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UKStory135
Posté 10 décembre 2012 - 11:51

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Stardusk wrote...

Krogan Shaman, Shockwave> Flare


I think that would depend on the base cooldown of flare.  He and the Kroguard already violate my 3.4 second base cooldown rule (I try to choose weapons and build around having a 3.4 second cooldown on the primary power).

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UKillMeLongTime
Posté 10 décembre 2012 - 11:57

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theillusiveman11 wrote...

Asari Huntress
Dark Channel with Flare


I'll take that or reave but flare is tons of fun 

#89
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Posté 11 décembre 2012 - 12:03

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QSol-replace sabotage with concussive shot
Batguard-replace lash with inferno grenades
Vorcha Hunter-replace sub net with snap freeze

#90
ISHYGDDT
Posté 11 décembre 2012 - 12:14

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Lord_Sirian wrote...

Cerberus Adept:

Singularity
Smash
Lash

Replace Lash with Tactical Cloak.

trolololo.


This must be the build Dragoons use.

#91
DJ Airsurfer
Posté 11 décembre 2012 - 12:16

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..or biower could nerf the underperforming classes/abilities.

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stysiaq
Posté 11 décembre 2012 - 12:21

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OrvosVad wrote...

BatSol

Balistic Blades
Warp/Throw/Incinerate/anything actually useful!


Image IPB

I think you won this thread.

#93
Shampoohorn
Posté 11 décembre 2012 - 12:23

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FatalionPanic wrote...

Drell Adept

replace Lift Grenades with Throw

Yes, that's right! Reave > BE galore!


Wrong nades dude.  And Clusters are better than throw.

#94
ISHYGDDT
Posté 11 décembre 2012 - 12:34

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Human Engineer replace incinerate with inferno grenades.
Human Vanguard Replace shockwave with inferno grenades.
Human Soldier replace frag grenades with inferno grenades.
Human Sentinel replace tech armor with inferno grenades.
Human Infiltrator replace  sticky grenades with inferno grenades...

Give me some time and I'll think of more later.:whistle:

Modifié par ISHYGDDT, 11 décembre 2012 - 12:41 .

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Posté 11 décembre 2012 - 12:35

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Ser Pounce A Lot wrote...

tyhw wrote...

I'd replace Stim packs on the Ghost with Inferno grenades. Then I'd like using the class


Lol that kit would be more over powered than it is now.


Yup:D

But way more fun too

#96
Hyperglide
Posté 11 décembre 2012 - 12:54

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Drell Vanguard

Pull ---> Reave or Dark Channel

Vorcha Soldier

Carnage ---> Inferno Grenades

Turian Havoc

Cryo Blast  ---> Incinerate or Concussive Shot

Salarian Engineer

Energy Drain ---> Defense Matrix

Volus Mercenary

Combat Drone ---> Sentry Turret

Batarian Sentinel

Shockwave ---> Warp

Turian Ghost

Overload  ---> Incinerate or Cryo Blast

Krogan Battlemaster

Carnage ---> Inferno Grenades

Human Vanguard

Shockwave ---> Fortification

Modifié par Hyperglide, 11 décembre 2012 - 01:19 .

#97
MaxShine
Posté 11 décembre 2012 - 12:55

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BatSent: replace submission net with inferno grenades

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chefcook90
Posté 11 décembre 2012 - 12:57

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BlackDahlia424 wrote...

Quarian Marksman: Replace Sabotage with Arc Grenades.
Volus Adept: Replace Stasis with Singularity/Warp.
Havoc: Replace Cryo Blast with Inferno Grenades (or create an entirely new Cryo Grenade power)

Also, any kit with lash or pull, replace it will something actually useful.


TheKillerAngel wrote...

I'll start. The Turian Havoc Soldier has:

Havoc Strike
Cryo Blast 
Stim Pack

I would replace Cryo Blast with either:

Fortification
Inferno Grenades

Fortification
would allow him to be tankier and deal substantial melee damage.
Inferno grenades would improve his offensive potential and let him
self-detonate fire explosions. Grenade + strike a group of enemies,
proceed to mop them up.


theillusiveman11 wrote...

Turian Havok
Cryo Blast with Frag Nades


Why does everyone want to replace Cryo Blast on the Havoc!?
First of all, Turian Havoc is NOT an under-performing class, ESPECIALLY if he's using Cryo Blast! I mean, a Soldier who can heal himself, CC, set up Cryo Blasts, weaken armor, and move faster than all of the other soldiers combined?
How is that not awesome!? :o

And why does everyone want to replace it with a grenade power? What if you need to spend a Stim Pack but emptied out your grenade pool by chucking grenades? :whistle:


To answer the OP's question? Replace one of the Quarian Marksman's abilities, either Sabotage or Tactical Scan, with Defense Matrix. He's easily the squishiest Soldier on the roster, and needs something to make up for it. Not to mention he has way too many tech abilities for a Soldier.

The only other under-performing classes I can think of are the Drell, and that has more to do with them being pointlessly squishy than having bad abilities.

Modifié par chefcook90, 11 décembre 2012 - 12:58 .

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Posté 11 décembre 2012 - 12:57

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ISHYGDDT wrote...

Human Engineer replace incinerate with inferno grenades.
Human Vanguard Replace shockwave with inferno grenades.
Human Soldier replace frag grenades with inferno grenades.
Human Sentinel replace tech armor with inferno grenades.
Human Infiltrator replace  sticky grenades with inferno grenades...

Give me some time and I'll think of more later.:whistle:


tyhw wrote...

Ser Pounce A Lot wrote...

tyhw wrote...

I'd replace Stim packs on the Ghost with Inferno grenades. Then I'd like using the class


Lol that kit would be more over powered than it is now.


Yup[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/grin.png[/smilie]

But way more fun too


100RenegadePoints wrote...

BatSent: replace submission net with inferno grenades


I'm seeing a trend here...:whistle:

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Posté 11 décembre 2012 - 01:29

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Hyperglide wrote...

Drell Vanguard

Pull ---> Reave or Dark Channel

Vorcha Soldier

Carnage ---> Inferno Grenades

Turian Havoc

Cryo Blast  ---> Incinerate or Concussive Shot

...

Krogan Battlemaster

Carnage ---> Inferno Grenades

...


I'm ok with this.
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