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[superg30]

Teddie Sage wrote...

Would love a DLC where you get to play as the Virmire Survivor (if no Romances available) or the Love Interest to seek about Shepard's whereabouts... Extra closure, post end thing, after the credits.

Hmmm....LI....I would love to see Traynor pick up a gun and start fighting but alas....BW is never gonna do this....no "artistic integrity" there.......

[Silver77nz]

What a great job! Whoever did this vid kudos to you and yes I would love to play as LI searching for Shepard.

[enayasoul]

This is awesome! Great job on the trailer. That'd be cool.

[LanceSolous13]

tettenjager wrote...

Nice trailer, but i have got to ask... What is he fighting? Cerberus is dead, reapers are dead, geth are dead... Who is going to stop him in his search? Orks?

The power vaccum left by Cerberus, the Reapers, and etc?

Or, maybe it'd just be a very emotional DLC that lacks fighting all together? Like the Normandy Crash Site?

[NRieh]

Surprised, only 1 person in 3 pages misspelled "KaidAn". That's a good sign.

But with all my major feelings to Spectre Alenko - NPCs should remain NPCs, unless it's a spin-off (like Leliana song). But even so - I don't want to pick his dialogue options, thoughts and feelings - that's what writers are for. Run him around with aoutodialogue and autoemotions just to see on screen (for my own $$) something that was headcanoned many months ago in spring, even before thay made EC? Does not sound fun.

And issues with possible endings were already mentioned. Remember that Shepard lives only in 1 of 5 possible endings (perfect destroy, not perfect destroy, control, synthesis, deny). No matter how popular "perfect red" is - there is a huge group that has nothing to search for and little motivation to buy such DLC at all. Not to mention that all 5 versions should fit one single DLC with 2gb limits.

I do consider Normandy Crash site best side-mission in game and 100% best free DLC. It's really good, but it's not something that can sell, I'm afraid.

Few notes on trailer itself - could not recognize one of final episodes, where he's sliding down some platform, looked like SM piece to me, but still not sure. Anyone knows what it was? Probably it was SM, as I know there is a Kaidan-mod for mShep in ME2 , that allows you to use his facemodel. And also - part voicing does not belong to Kaidan, though it's obviously RS, but sounds different. Karth, may be? Or some parts from his TV series? Rest of voice is ME1+ME3.

Modifié par Nrieh, 12 décembre 2012 - 08:55 .

[Torrential]

Nrieh wrote...
And issues with possible endings were already mentioned. Remember that Shepard lives only in 1 of 5 possible endings (perfect destroy, not perfect destroy, control, synthesis, deny). No matter how popular "perfect red" is - there is a huge group that has nothing to search for and little motivation to buy such DLC at all. Not to mention that all 5 versions should fit one single DLC with 2gb limits.

Your making up imaginery problems here. All 5 fit on the same DLC? Your either going to find his body, rescue whats left of him, or search the remains to recover Anderson's body and Shepherd.  Either way thats one scene at the end that is different, one and really only two choices alive or dead, or some half measure inbetween where you can save him if they are feeling generous.

Nrieh wrote... 
I do consider Normandy Crash site best side-mission in game and 100% best free DLC. It's really good, but it's not something that can sell, I'm afraid.

This makes no logical sense at all, and is not very relevant anyway as its not what is being discussed.

Nrieh wrote...  
But with all my major feelings to Spectre Alenko - NPCs should remain NPCs, unless it's a spin-off (like Leliana song). But even so - I don't want to pick his dialogue options, thoughts and feelings - that's what writers are for. Run him around with aoutodialogue and autoemotions just to see on screen (for my own $$) something that was headcanoned many months ago in spring, even before thay made EC? Does not sound fun.  

 

Hate autodialogue with a passion, but I am confused as to why its okay for Leliana's song and not for a DLC? They were the same thing to me.

On top of that you are choosing your squadmates dialogue much of the time based on your own choices, so it'd still be set in their character, you'd just pick renegade/neutral/paragon versions of their dialogue or just skip that and give them their dialogue with a few twists as to what they can say. At worst, pick another neutral character and have them find shepherd, though I think this a poor choice when so many other good ones exist.

Modifié par Torrential, 12 décembre 2012 - 10:31 .

[tiger-tron]

I love the trailer, but since I killed off Kaiden in ME1 and my Shep only romanced Jacob (for the trophy...), I don't see him ditching his current girlfriend and trying to find Shepard. It would have to be someone like Garrus. I'd loooove to play as Garrus.

Besides, Bioware could just do multiple characters incase one dies in your ME2/3 playthrough. Just get the cast to record new dialogue.

I would certainly buy this DLC if it meant Shepard could return at the end so they can be in ME4. Seriously, I hate how they made Shepard's story a trilogy. Shepard needs more games.

[TheInquisitor]

This needs to happen

[_FLANDERS]

Nice . find vsherpard good start of me4 as ago to guy like anderson was in 1 and 2 for the new guy or gal.NOw if Bw and EA cares, Because right now i do not see a lot of people falling all over me4.

[NRieh]

Your making up imaginery problems here. All 5 fit on the same DLC? Your either going to find his body, rescue whats left of him, or search the remains to recover Anderson's body and Shepherd. Either way thats one scene at the end that is different

Orly? No difference between who (or should I say"what") searches for Shepard in Synthesis and Destroy or Control? No difference in their motivation?.. 8P And screw those Shepards who chose Deny or bad destroy? And also - not sure about EC scenes, but pre-EC control Citadel was sealed. It would've made searches....problematic.

but I am confused as to why its okay for Leliana's song and not for a DLC? They were the same thing to me.

Because LS is spin-off, it is irrelevant to main DAO content, it does not involve Warden and others. And even there I find it tolerable, but not so good. Never bought this DLC myself, not interested in RP anything but my own characters.

On top of that you are choosing your squadmates dialogue much of the time based on your own choices

You really see no difference between provoking any kind of reaction with your words or actions and telling another person what and how exactly (s)he should feel and what words should use?..

[spirosz]

No thanks, lol. That would be OOC for certain LI's and seem boring.

[Torrential]

 

Nrieh wrote... 

Your making up imaginery problems here. All 5 fit on the same DLC? Your either going to find his body, rescue whats left of him, or search the remains to recover Anderson's body and Shepherd. Either way thats one scene at the end that is different

Orly? No difference between who (or should I say"what") searches for Shepard in Synthesis and Destroy or Control? No difference in their motivation?.. 8P And screw those Shepards who chose Deny or bad destroy? And also - not sure about EC scenes, but pre-EC control Citadel was sealed. It would've made searches....problematic. 

Make the plot as complicated or simple as you like to justify whatever you like, it makes no odds to what I am saying.

A LI rescue needs only two different variables for plot in it. Finding shepherd and bringing him back or not. 

It needs his body, living or dead. The possible exception being catching him in time to save him, which would amount to three outcomes.

Nrieh wrote...
but I am confused as to why its okay for Leliana's song and not for a DLC? They were the same thing to me.

Because LS is spin-off, it is irrelevant to main DAO content, it does not involve Warden and others. And even there I find it tolerable, but not so good. Never bought this DLC myself, not interested in RP anything but my own characters.

Irrelevant to you, relevant to those that enjoyed and played it. Not much else to add there, we just have a fundamentally different perspective on the quality of that module. For me it was a decent insight in her background, that I enjoyed and would purchase again. 

Nrieh wrote... 

On top of that you are choosing your squadmates dialogue much of the time based on your own choices

You really see no difference between provoking any kind of reaction with your words or actions and telling another person what and how exactly (s)he should feel and what words should use?..

I didn't say that. I said the outcome was the same.

Modifié par Torrential, 12 décembre 2012 - 04:53 .

[Krysh]

i would definitely buy that. the video gave me goosebumps. great job!

[Overdosing]

This would be interesting to do. This might be, considerably what I want to call a "quasi-fanon DLC", where it seems real to the people who choose the "destroy' ending but not to the people who chose the other endings, and you could play any surviving main character in the game.

Since they wouldn't be fighting as much, and this event would be small, this DLC would have to be either free or at a very low price, which BioWare and EA probably won't accept this. Shameful.

[Jonata]

So this is basically a DLC for player who:

- Chose to play as Femshep
- Let Kaidan survive Virmire
- Romanced Kaidan
- Picked Destroy

...a DLC pointed towards 2% of the ME3 players or something like that? Yeah, that's gonna happen.

[Iakus]

If there was an Ash version I'd be mighty tempted...

[Torrential]

Jonata wrote...

So this is basically a DLC for player who:

- Chose to play as Femshep
- Let Kaidan survive Virmire
- Romanced Kaidan
- Picked Destroy

...a DLC pointed towards 2% of the ME3 players or something like that? Yeah, that's gonna happen.

Use the imagination a little bit.

Its a potential DLC for anyone who didn't have the absolute worst ending.  Your crew coming to return the heroes body, get some closure, errect a memorial etc... or save him.

[NRieh]

A LI rescue needs only two different variables for plot in it. Finding shepherd and bringing him back or not.

Once again. In 3\\5 there is NO LI to look for anything. In synthesis it's something you can't comperhand (hehe), in bad destroy or deny (s)he was vaporised, the only endings which do have same LI are good destroy and control.

See? It's simple math. Only 2 out of 5 major endings have LI to find Shepard, only 1 out of 5 endings have Shepard to be found. Because no, there is not much left in control and even less - in synthesis, even if we suppose that this green-eyedTHING, Shepard turned his\\her LI into, has an urge to look for what's left of him\\her.

Your crew coming to return the heroes body, get some closure, errect a memorial etc... or save him.

ME3 EC memorial scene does exactly this.

Modifié par Nrieh, 12 décembre 2012 - 09:03 .

[sirus1988]

At the end of that trailer i half expected shepard popping up saying "You have come too far" in leviathan's vioce..

But seriously, I really really wish this was true.

[Arxduke]

Jonata wrote...

So this is basically a DLC for player who:

- Chose to play as Femshep
- Let Kaidan survive Virmire
- Romanced Kaidan
- Picked Destroy

...a DLC pointed towards 2% of the ME3 players or something like that? Yeah, that's gonna happen.

Who said anything about one solo single romance? Clearly this is for all romances, this one was just picked for the trailer. Don't worry, your romance hasn't been forgotten.  

[Redbelle]

Jonata wrote...

So this is basically a DLC for player who:

- Chose to play as Femshep
- Let Kaidan survive Virmire
- Romanced Kaidan
- Picked Destroy

...a DLC pointed towards 2% of the ME3 players or something like that? Yeah, that's gonna happen.

When I saw this I viewed it more of a proof of concept, in that

-choose any gender shep.
-romanced any character, other than the dead ones. Or Trayner. Or Kelly.

And here's where the idea breaks down. If you romanced Thane and didn't romance anyone else, Thane's dead.

Traynors not a combat capable LI. She could be given a gun, thrust into the spotlight of the lead role and told 'get on with it'! But it's out of character for her.

While I like the idea of how past LI decisions affect the who takes the lead role, there are variables that leave potentially no one in the role. Therefore a standardised version of the DLC where one character who did survive everything and has a LI connection to Shepard step up. And that's Liara.

If you didn't romance Kaiden or Ashley, and lost nearly every character in the ME2 suicide mission, then Liara is the only one left who can fill that gap.

Then again, I'm sure alot of people got their LI's through ME1 and 2. But this hypothetical DLC has to be able to deal with the possibilty that the LI's are no more.

Modifié par Redbelle, 12 décembre 2012 - 10:26 .

[twinsfun]

me too I pay ALOT for this kind of DLC

[Mark of the Dragon]

I wouldnt I would rather play as Shepard. The ME trilogy is about my Shepard and I do not want to be someone else. Also this would totally undermine the Synthesis/Control ending so that is not good...Not good at all.

[Overdosing]

This would be the best DLC they make for Mass Effect 3. If they're going to do more single-player DLC and haven't planned them out, I suggest that they do this. I'd give them my soul if this was released.

[NoForgiveness]

can u be any li or just kaiden/ash? itd be a start butme3 is beyond redemption for me....