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How would you react if Bioware canonized Synthesis if they made a sequel?


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Ieldra2 wrote...

jtav wrote...
By laughing evily as I feast on the tears of everyone who tried to ruin my Synthesis games by spouting unfounded nonsense.

This.

Muwhahahahahaha!

Modifié par Big-Boss687, 11 décembre 2012 - 02:52 .


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Reth Shepherd wrote...

May I ask a very personal question, Auintus? Are you religious at all? Was running over some random stuff in my head and suddenly started wondering if there might be a correlation between ending choice and whether or not someone believes in a higher power. For the record, I am not religious, and I despise the endings/pick Refuse/a non-Bioware ending. May have to start a thread/poll on this, I'm curious now.


I apparently qualify as apatheist. There may or may not be a higher power, but so far it has had no impact on my life. Does that match your hypothesis?

Modifié par Auintus, 11 décembre 2012 - 05:04 .


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I just won't buy it. That's what I do to games I don't like the look of, I don't buy it.

I try to keep up to date with Mass Effect in hopes that BioWare can pull out something good with the DLC like they've done in the past, but I don't think they have that spark anymore.

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It wont happen.  Synthesis is a load of nonsense.

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i dont know what story they could take when they chosse te Synthesis

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Captain Crash wrote...

It wont happen.  Synthesis is a load of nonsense.


QFT.

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i would not buy it ...

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biowarEa has apparently provided that there is going to be NO MORE Shep in the MEU. So it would matter little if synthesis were canon, in relation to a sequel. How many actually 'get' the idea of synthesis anyway, we only know it turns the eyes green and makes plants programmable..

plants are already programmable, they call'em hybrid. Humanity became hybrid just after accepting that reaper peace offering on mars...lost the war before it started, as it were. The more organic life forms relies on technology, the further their synthesis progresses. Throw in a few billion years to that to 'sink in' and you have (total) synthesis.

It's kind of like rocket science..lol

edit: (had to put that 'total' in there for mass effect ;)

Modifié par Wayning_Star, 11 décembre 2012 - 07:36 .


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I'm still holding hope that Bioware Montreal pulls a curveball and makes High-EMS Destroy or MEHEM the canon ending.
Figuratively speaking, Destroy's the only one that would "make sense" to continue with, given how the Reapers are gone for good. MEHEM allows Bioware to keep the Geth and advanced AIs in the plot without a major retcon or a simple "they got better lol".
Even if Shepard lives, he doesn't have to be in the plot. Heck, a Paragon expresses enthusiasm to retirement while in the London FOB.

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Epsilon330 wrote...

I'm still holding hope that Bioware Montreal pulls a curveball and makes High-EMS Destroy or MEHEM the canon ending.
Figuratively speaking, Destroy's the only one that would "make sense" to continue with, given how the Reapers are gone for good. MEHEM allows Bioware to keep the Geth and advanced AIs in the plot without a major retcon or a simple "they got better lol".
Even if Shepard lives, he doesn't have to be in the plot. Heck, a Paragon expresses enthusiasm to retirement while in the London FOB.


I dunno how they could do that, considering that the basis for the harvest is on the destroy concept? As far as Shep goes, he/she's already had two shots at it, why make the person hang in there for a third try? Seems counter productive.

Modifié par Wayning_Star, 11 décembre 2012 - 07:43 .


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Epsilon330 wrote...

I'm still holding hope that Bioware Montreal pulls a curveball and makes High-EMS Destroy or MEHEM the canon ending.
Figuratively speaking, Destroy's the only one that would "make sense" to continue with, given how the Reapers are gone for good. MEHEM allows Bioware to keep the Geth and advanced AIs in the plot without a major retcon or a simple "they got better lol".
Even if Shepard lives, he doesn't have to be in the plot. Heck, a Paragon expresses enthusiasm to retirement while in the London FOB.


Yeah, but then folks who actually like Synthesis like me would have reason to feel blown off.

Modifié par Auintus, 11 décembre 2012 - 07:44 .


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Badly... I already plan not to purchase any games from them, so don`t know what else I could do besides sending them shards of DVD parcel-post.

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Auintus wrote...

Epsilon330 wrote...

I'm still holding hope that Bioware Montreal pulls a curveball and makes High-EMS Destroy or MEHEM the canon ending.
Figuratively speaking, Destroy's the only one that would "make sense" to continue with, given how the Reapers are gone for good. MEHEM allows Bioware to keep the Geth and advanced AIs in the plot without a major retcon or a simple "they got better lol".
Even if Shepard lives, he doesn't have to be in the plot. Heck, a Paragon expresses enthusiasm to retirement while in the London FOB.


Yeah, but then folks who actually like Synthesis like me would have reason to feel blown off.


I chose synthesis because it were the only possible canon ending, not that I particularly "liked" it as a choice. I'm just wishing for an explanation as to who and why those choices made their way into the citadel/catalyst program. It would take a sequel to explain the builders of the crucible and it's intention and why. Eventhough Shep doesn't have the luxury of an educated guess in ME 3. All other choices are undermined by the gist of the story 1 thru 3. The subplot pertains to the gist of restitution from the reapers, the only thing they have is their harvested contents..soooo???

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Wayning_Star wrote...

Auintus wrote...

Epsilon330 wrote...

I'm still holding hope that Bioware Montreal pulls a curveball and makes High-EMS Destroy or MEHEM the canon ending.
Figuratively speaking, Destroy's the only one that would "make sense" to continue with, given how the Reapers are gone for good. MEHEM allows Bioware to keep the Geth and advanced AIs in the plot without a major retcon or a simple "they got better lol".
Even if Shepard lives, he doesn't have to be in the plot. Heck, a Paragon expresses enthusiasm to retirement while in the London FOB.


Yeah, but then folks who actually like Synthesis like me would have reason to feel blown off.


I chose synthesis because it were the only possible canon ending, not that I particularly "liked" it as a choice. I'm just wishing for an explanation as to who and why those choices made their way into the citadel/catalyst program. It would take a sequel to explain the builders of the crucible and it's intention and why. Eventhough Shep doesn't have the luxury of an educated guess in ME 3. All other choices are undermined by the gist of the story 1 thru 3. The subplot pertains to the gist of restitution from the reapers, the only thing they have is their harvested contents..soooo???


You can`t explain it, and here`s why: The Reapers built the citadel, the `wave`of magic nonsense comes from the citadel, which uses the catalyst as `little more than a power source`, which means all the infrastructure to produce any of the 3 ending waves is already built into the citadel... so the reapers built their own suicide device.

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LucasShark wrote...

Badly... I already plan not to purchase any games from them, so don`t know what else I could do besides sending them shards of DVD parcel-post.


that's funny, I really like the story,the choices..not so much. Still entertaining. I wonder why folks who disdain, populate the boards to complain?

I think they secretly LIKE the game..as well.. lol

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LucasShark wrote...

Wayning_Star wrote...

Auintus wrote...

Epsilon330 wrote...

I'm still holding hope that Bioware Montreal pulls a curveball and makes High-EMS Destroy or MEHEM the canon ending.
Figuratively speaking, Destroy's the only one that would "make sense" to continue with, given how the Reapers are gone for good. MEHEM allows Bioware to keep the Geth and advanced AIs in the plot without a major retcon or a simple "they got better lol".
Even if Shepard lives, he doesn't have to be in the plot. Heck, a Paragon expresses enthusiasm to retirement while in the London FOB.


Yeah, but then folks who actually like Synthesis like me would have reason to feel blown off.


I chose synthesis because it were the only possible canon ending, not that I particularly "liked" it as a choice. I'm just wishing for an explanation as to who and why those choices made their way into the citadel/catalyst program. It would take a sequel to explain the builders of the crucible and it's intention and why. Eventhough Shep doesn't have the luxury of an educated guess in ME 3. All other choices are undermined by the gist of the story 1 thru 3. The subplot pertains to the gist of restitution from the reapers, the only thing they have is their harvested contents..soooo???


You can`t explain it, and here`s why: The Reapers built the citadel, the `wave`of magic nonsense comes from the citadel, which uses the catalyst as `little more than a power source`, which means all the infrastructure to produce any of the 3 ending waves is already built into the citadel... so the reapers built their own suicide device.


they're not alive so they cannot commit suicide. Their cargo isn't either, but can be rescucitated just like Shepard was. Heck even crushed Shepard in the rubble could be brought back again. Nobody seems to mind that the fountain of youth is present in the MEU, but green beams of inclusion are outlandish?!?

The crucible changes the situation, the 'idea' that the catalyst can be controlled via the crucible lends to more than just  a power source. Something 'jimmied' the priorities of the catalyst, just after the crucible were attacthed. Maybe it's batteries were just low, eh? But still, those ideas were introduced from somwhere. I'd just like to know who and where and why...it's a human condition...there's NO cure..lol

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I think any kind of sequel is going to take something away from players of ME1-3. Namely, their choices. There's no way to ensure that those choices aren't just discarded unless the fourth game registers them to some extent, which would be a huge undertaking and probably not feasible. Even having it set far, far into the future wouldn't solve the problem since there will still be echoes of the events that occurred in ME3.

That said, I suppose it's possible to set it so far away from the systems used in Mass Effect that the beams wouldn't have had an effect there. Perhaps some long lost vessel. But that would remove us from everything we know about the universe already.

It seems a prequel is one of the easiest ways to avoid the mess of the multiple endings in ME3.

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@The Mad Hanar... Lol, epic.

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centauri2002 wrote...

I think any kind of sequel is going to take something away from players of ME1-3. Namely, their choices. There's no way to ensure that those choices aren't just discarded unless the fourth game registers them to some extent, which would be a huge undertaking and probably not feasible. Even having it set far, far into the future wouldn't solve the problem since there will still be echoes of the events that occurred in ME3.

That said, I suppose it's possible to set it so far away from the systems used in Mass Effect that the beams wouldn't have had an effect there. Perhaps some long lost vessel. But that would remove us from everything we know about the universe already.

It seems a prequel is one of the easiest ways to avoid the mess of the multiple endings in ME3.


It would seem that many wish to dominate the MEU? I wonder if that isn't the actual question in the game, that is, the reason for the choices menu? I've always been of the opinion that Shep really has no choice in the story, and is subject to the whims of the MEU and it's citizens. The catalyst being the boss in the endgame only reinforces that premise. It has no control of events either, apparently.

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I doubt anyone would want a game with hybrid green glowing aliens. No point in the game since wars are gone, too.