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Borschtbeet

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It's because Bioware was also developing this expansion pack and probably others which are 100 percent complete.  They wanted to release the game and be able to release the expansion packs within months of each other while the hype is still hot.
A pretty sound move fiscally I think.  I don't think there is a single Dragon Age owner on the planet who isn't going to buy this expansion.

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I think you're wrong on most points. I highly doubt DLC/xpac were 100% done. Sure, they may have had outlines for what it contained but not to the point it was fully completed.



There are many people who refuse to buy the expansion. Simply look in the thread about it being priced at $40.




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thegreateski

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Yar ima pirate.

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buying it for sure. Just as i got mass effect on Steam that was on the holiday sale.

Bioware should put the expansion on sale via Steam (10% off). No doubt there will be tons of players want to get their hand on it via pre-order through Steam.

Modifié par Dieover, 06 janvier 2010 - 12:12 .


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rest assured it will NOT be available march 16th..................................due to delays

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BioWare had planned and at least partly-created 2 years worth of content. Or so I was led to believe.

Modifié par AdamnessX, 06 janvier 2010 - 12:31 .


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Borschtbeet wrote...

It's because Bioware was also developing this expansion pack and probably others which are 100 percent complete.  They wanted to release the game and be able to release the expansion packs within months of each other while the hype is still hot.
A pretty sound move fiscally I think.  I don't think there is a single Dragon Age owner on the planet who isn't going to buy this expansion.

Yes, of course, it's all some evil scheme to cheat us. Now put on your tinfoil hat and shut up.

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Borschtbeet

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Spaghetti_Ninja wrote...

Borschtbeet wrote...

It's because Bioware was also developing this expansion pack and probably others which are 100 percent complete.  They wanted to release the game and be able to release the expansion packs within months of each other while the hype is still hot.
A pretty sound move fiscally I think.  I don't think there is a single Dragon Age owner on the planet who isn't going to buy this expansion.

Yes, of course, it's all some evil scheme to cheat us. Now put on your tinfoil hat and shut up.


Never said it was a bad thing douchebag.  Frankly, I'm pleased to see the expansion pack released within a few months while my interest is held so go ****** up a rope while I bang your mom.

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Borschtbeet

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Spaghetti_Ninja wrote...

Borschtbeet wrote...

It's because Bioware was also developing this expansion pack and probably others which are 100 percent complete.  They wanted to release the game and be able to release the expansion packs within months of each other while the hype is still hot.
A pretty sound move fiscally I think.  I don't think there is a single Dragon Age owner on the planet who isn't going to buy this expansion.

Yes, of course, it's all some evil scheme to cheat us. Now put on your tinfoil hat and shut up.


Never said it was a bad thing douchebag.  Frankly, I'm pleased to see the expansion pack released within a few months while my interest is held so go ****** up a rope while I bang your mom.

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xCobalt wrote...

I think you're wrong on most points. I highly doubt DLC/xpac were 100% done. Sure, they may have had outlines for what it contained but not to the point it was fully completed.

There are many people who refuse to buy the expansion. Simply look in the thread about it being priced at $40.


The majority are just ****ing because that is what they do and will still buy it anyway. Most will forget about this crusade against the evil souless coproation that is EA and rush to get it the first day.

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Borschtbeet wrote...

Spaghetti_Ninja wrote...

Borschtbeet wrote...

It's because Bioware was also developing this expansion pack and probably others which are 100 percent complete.  They wanted to release the game and be able to release the expansion packs within months of each other while the hype is still hot.
A pretty sound move fiscally I think.  I don't think there is a single Dragon Age owner on the planet who isn't going to buy this expansion.

Yes, of course, it's all some evil scheme to cheat us. Now put on your tinfoil hat and shut up.


Never said it was a bad thing douchebag.  Frankly, I'm pleased to see the expansion pack released within a few months while my interest is held so go ****** up a rope while I bang your mom.


well, arent you an **** today?   :devil:

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The dev time was taken by (1) story writing (very long story dialogue) and (2) voice acting to coordinate. It's like making a movie -- BioWare games are like interactive movies.

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I don't think they delayed the main game to work on this. I imagine that as a lot of the core work on the main game finished and development switched to bug hunting and porting to console, some of the designers and programmers were reassigned to this in an effort to get it out ASAP. EA/Bioware realizes that in order to make an RPG like DAO sufficiently profitable, they need to sustain player interest amongst the relatively small install base, and an expansion released a year after release will not sell as well as an expansion closer to release. That is, it's been their plan at least since being acquired by EA to implement a quick series of DLC and expansions so the DAO property eventually brings in money equivalent to, at at least approaching, that brought in by EA's more profitable titles. Because RPG's like DAO are not as immediately profitable as, say, Mass Effect or Madden or any number of other EA titles, EA is seeking to release added paid content within the same fiscal year as the initial release.

I think it's a good plan - I like DAO and welcome more of it soon, especially since the main campaign gets old after a couple of run throughs in quick succession. RPG fans also have intense preferences - we tend to really like RPG's. The massively popular games tend to either play to less intense preferences (I need a game that will keep the kids occupied) or benefit from added value due to network effects (read: Halo 3 and MW2, whose multiplayer becomes more valuable to the player the more potential players are online because there become more options for play regarding skill level, map selection and game type). These types of games attract many purchasers of the core game; DA:O's continued financial success is being pegged on players' intense preferences for a type of game that neither benefits from network effects (unless you buy into the social site as adding more than marginal value) nor has inherent monster widespread appeal.

Modifié par MrGOH, 06 janvier 2010 - 01:14 .


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snake2895

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EA published it so what do you expect...



Spore and The Sims 3 anyone?

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Birdieboink

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Borschtbeet wrote...

It's because Bioware was also developing this expansion pack and probably others which are 100 percent complete.  They wanted to release the game and be able to release the expansion packs within months of each other while the hype is still hot.
A pretty sound move fiscally I think.  I don't think there is a single Dragon Age owner on the planet who isn't going to buy this expansion.


I read earlier that Bioware had a separate team working on the DLC. Also, the PC version of the game was actually finished before the console versions, and the entire game was delayed while they caught up on the PS3 version, which took longer to develop than they had expected.

Gosh, you're paranoid.

Besides, most games go gold, like, a month before they're actually released, and not every member of a development team is going to be working on a game right up to release. So, while, say, there were coders making sure everything was just right for the game (and remember, the game was supposedly complete months before released and delayed so all three versions could come out on time--seems strange since no one ever does that for the PC, but I digress), everyone else had nothing to do. So, you could get them started on some DLC. It's conceivable that they've been working on it for a whole year.

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Experience suggests that the expansion pack entered real development only very shortly before the games release. The engine and development tools are second only to art assets so far as time needed to get them right is concerned and you need them in place to work on content. Given then that the majority of this work is done already (from the perspective of an expansion) you will have limited art assets to create (and voice recording ets) in order to complete the content creation, much of which can occur simultaneously.



Therefore an expansion may take only a few months from start to finish where the original game took 6 years.