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[Minttymint]

Not worried at all. I loved both games albeit in different aspects. Seeing as I intend to own everything Dragon Age related, I will be buying the next game. Me, obsessed? Nooo...

[BonFire5]

After ME3, no. BioWare DA is now something I can count on. DAII isn't that bad except for the Felicia Day DLC (even though Male Hawke shined there).

[Pelle6666]

As long as they address the issues that we've rubbed in their faces after DA2 I recon It will turn out fine. I'm mostly worried about the combat, if it's as quick paced and unrealistic as DA2 then I will have a problem with it.

[BonFire5]

Pelle6666 wrote...

As long as they address the issues that we've rubbed in their faces after DA2 I recon It will turn out fine. I'm mostly worried about the combat, if it's as quick paced and unrealistic as DA2 then I will have a problem with it.

Unrealistic how?

[DarkSpiral]

BonFire5 wrote...

Pelle6666 wrote...

As long as they address the issues that we've rubbed in their faces after DA2 I recon It will turn out fine. I'm mostly worried about the combat, if it's as quick paced and unrealistic as DA2 then I will have a problem with it.

Unrealistic how?

Most people (including me) find the explosiosn of chuncky bits immersion breaking.  Some people don't care for the fact that several of thecombat moves defy the laws of physics (I'm not one of those).  I'm personally still annoyed at the removal of the tactical camera, but I'm not sure that has any bearing on "realism."  The speed of the swings of 2H weapons I;ve heard mentioned by somone, but not all that often.

There are probably others, but these are the ones I've heard of that actually make sense to me.

[BonFire5]

DarkSpiral wrote...

Most people (including me) find the explosiosn of chuncky bits immersion breaking.  Some people don't care for the fact that several of thecombat moves defy the laws of physics (I'm not one of those).  I'm personally still annoyed at the removal of the tactical camera, but I'm not sure that has any bearing on "realism."  The speed of the swings of 2H weapons I;ve heard mentioned by somone, but not all that often.

There are probably others, but these are the ones I've heard of that actually make sense to me.

It is a story, as well as a game that allows people with sticks to shoot fire out of them (like an Enchanter). Two-Handed weapon swings? They too slow? What was the tactical camera?

[Madeline McQueen]

Shinian2 wrote...

There's another thread on here talking about the DA:I producer assuring fans that they are not going to 'copy skyrim'. http://dragonage.wik...t_for_the_story

Thanks for that! That's realy put my mind at ease. Now I can get back to looking forward to playing the third one and just be upset about having to wait a year to play it lol. 

[The Teyrn of Whatever]

I choose to remain cautiously optimistic.

[Madeline McQueen]

PinkDiamondstl wrote...

The Hierophant wrote...

PinkDiamondstl wrote...

I 'm not worried I'll wait till the game is reviewed by credible sources. DAO was decent and DA2 was meh. Now the fans who worry me, mostly are those condescending, romance loving freaks...who are always on the hunt for the perfect love interest.

*snip*

Agreed

Now there is nothing wrong with a little romance . You'll find that it in every RPG. I don't care about reviews ,Da2 was't meh..and most of the so-called fans can be a bit condesending as well.

Totally agree with you. Infact, I don't think theres enough romance in there lol

[zeypher]

Well since they pushing on with their origin service, i think they have already made the decision for me. So makes no difference to me as i find origin to be garbage.

[fchopin]

Yes i have two worries about DA3.
One is that after DA2 and ME3 the game will no longer be a role playing game and the second the romances will be completely stupid like they were in DA2 with schizophrenic team members.

If it turns out i am correct then i will only play the game for the story and the combat.

[SpunkyMonkey]

I'm more worried about how Bioware seem to be sticking to design choices which were criticized heavily in both DA:2 and ME:3 as a whole.

The dialogue wheel, voiced protagonists, omission of races from character creation etc. - everything which was apparent in the "evolution" of DA:O to DA:2 seems to be staying and that's worrying, simply because you would have thought that the law of averages would have seen Bioware re-consider at least one of them.

As it is they just seem to want to stubbornly stick by those ideas and by doing so they are going against some fan wishes, and in the process are setting themselves up for a big fall unless they get things absolutely spot on. At a time when DA:2 and ME:3 recieved such hate I think that's a bad time to take the risky option, and think that they would have been far better off choosing the safer one of DA:O mk 2 instead.

I expect the game to come out to amazing reviews, premature fanboy excitement, and then when everyone's calmed down folk will take the game for what it is - which IMO will likely be another cash in sequel/experiment in catering to a wider audience.

Modifié par SpunkyMonkey, 12 décembre 2012 - 11:21 .

[Diurdi]

DA2 was a disappointment, SWTOR was an epic failure, ME3 was a clusterf* in many ways (some very good things, some very bad things, horrible bioware response).

So yeah, looking at their last three products, I'm not exactly convinced. Pre-ordering is totally out of the question.

[batlin]

I haven't entirely enjoyed a BioWare game since Mass Effect 2. ME3 came close, but that ending left such a sour taste in my mouth.

So am I worried that DA3 will be of the same quality as ME3, DA2, or SWTOR? Yes I am.

[SpunkyMonkey]

Diurdi wrote...

DA2 was a disappointment, SWTOR was an epic failure, ME3 was a clusterf* in many ways (some very good things, some very bad things, horrible bioware response).

So yeah, looking at their last three products, I'm not exactly convinced. Pre-ordering is totally out of the question.

Yep. After succh a poor run of form I can't understand what would posses people to pre-order DA:3.

[Hi my name is Ryan]

No, I'm pretty confident that it'll suck.

[Pedrak]

Cautiously optimistic. DA2 and ME3 have received much criticism (some excessive, some entirely deserved), so they can't afford another negative reception and they'll take the time to make a game on par with DAO and ME2 this time.

Modifié par Pedrak, 12 décembre 2012 - 02:16 .

[WhiteKnyght]

Madeline McQueen wrote...

First off I do have to say that I absolutely LOVE Dragon Age! They were both fab - the second game in my opinion wasn't quite as good as the first, they tried changing a few things to see how it would hit of. Sadly it didn't hit off as well as they hoped. But this time the third one is a chance to make up for that .


Okay I would just like to ask, is anyone else a bit worried about what BioWare are going to do to the thrid game? I have heard a few times they are going to make it more like Skyrym for one. Now depending on what they use from that game it can turn out brillinat or horrid. I HATED Skyrym personally. I have to admit however, there were a couple of things while playing that game I thought would be good to add on Dragon age. If they wanted to change the maps, make it an open world, no limitations on were to walk, then that wouldn't be bad to have. Adding online open player if done right I think would hit off. But BioWare should definitely NOT copy how their characters look. I thought each character in Skyrym was hideous. Dragon Age ones looks so much better. I know looks aren't important but in a game, lets face it, most of us would like our characters to look attractive.

I hope that Dragon Age doesn't loose themselves. How they have the game now is spot on. If they make it more like Skyrym or any other game along those lines, they may loose people. I can say I wouldn't be happy at all.

There are things I think they should add on. Romance is definitely on the plus side . I love the diologues, the people, actors, their personalities and the story lines. I think they should have quests on the curing the wardens, let them have children and grow old together. Lets face it, both the Warden and Champion are in the late 20's maybe 30. They're not getting younger so they'll need them soon. I think that's the least they deserve.

So what does anyone else think? 

If you're worrying about DAIII now, then your mind is probably already made up about how you're going to react.

If you expect something to be bad, that's all you're going to see, the bad.

[sea-]

Nah, not really.  Either we get a good game, or we get a good laugh.  Win/win in my opinion.  BioWare haven't yet let us down with Mass Effect 3 or Dragon Age 2.

Modifié par sea-, 12 décembre 2012 - 03:40 .

[PsychoBlonde]

 Worried?  I prefer to save my worrying for things that can actually have an effect on the course of my life.  Whether a particular video game is any good is not one of those things.

That being said, I'm a huge fan of the franchise and I do hope that I enjoy it, but I expect I will.  Once again, most of the stuff they're talking about consists of things I thought would be cool.  I'm curious to see how they'll be implemented.

[SpunkyMonkey]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

Madeline McQueen wrote...

First off I do have to say that I absolutely LOVE Dragon Age! They were both fab - the second game in my opinion wasn't quite as good as the first, they tried changing a few things to see how it would hit of. Sadly it didn't hit off as well as they hoped. But this time the third one is a chance to make up for that .


Okay I would just like to ask, is anyone else a bit worried about what BioWare are going to do to the thrid game? I have heard a few times they are going to make it more like Skyrym for one. Now depending on what they use from that game it can turn out brillinat or horrid. I HATED Skyrym personally. I have to admit however, there were a couple of things while playing that game I thought would be good to add on Dragon age. If they wanted to change the maps, make it an open world, no limitations on were to walk, then that wouldn't be bad to have. Adding online open player if done right I think would hit off. But BioWare should definitely NOT copy how their characters look. I thought each character in Skyrym was hideous. Dragon Age ones looks so much better. I know looks aren't important but in a game, lets face it, most of us would like our characters to look attractive.

I hope that Dragon Age doesn't loose themselves. How they have the game now is spot on. If they make it more like Skyrym or any other game along those lines, they may loose people. I can say I wouldn't be happy at all.

There are things I think they should add on. Romance is definitely on the plus side . I love the diologues, the people, actors, their personalities and the story lines. I think they should have quests on the curing the wardens, let them have children and grow old together. Lets face it, both the Warden and Champion are in the late 20's maybe 30. They're not getting younger so they'll need them soon. I think that's the least they deserve.

So what does anyone else think? 

If you're worrying about DAIII now, then your mind is probably already made up about how you're going to react.

If you expect something to be bad, that's all you're going to see, the bad.

To be fair, everything that we've heard so far (no character classes, dialogue wheel, voiced protagonist) hasn't exactly given anyone cause for optimism.

As a DA:2 hater it just tells me to expect more of the same and I constantly come on here hoping to hear different.

[blueumi]

yes if bioware don't get why mass effect 3s ending is bad and why dragon age 2 was not the true rpg game we all were expecting if they don't see that then this game will suck as well

[SpunkyMonkey]

blueumi wrote...

yes if bioware don't get why mass effect 3s ending is bad and why dragon age 2 was not the true rpg game we all were expecting if they don't see that then this game will suck as well

I'm only guessing - entire speculation on my part - but since EA has taken over Bioware it feels as if there are a core set of workers there who are just unhappy at what they are being instructed now, and the direction which they are being pulled (see Brent Knowles for an example of someone wo wasn't happy there).

Now to keep your job you don't make a crap job of things, else you get sacked and don't get paid. Instead you follow your instructions to the letter, but in doing so put an interpritation on them that will undermine the game and make it as poor a game as possible without actually going against instructions. (ie trying to use ME style combat in a tactical game - it's obvious it won't work as you need run & gun, cover + targetting mechanics for it to be fun, but by adding button bashing you fill your remit, whilst achieving your objective of making the combat crap in the meantime).

Pure speculation and not something I would stake any money on, but something with Bioware just doesn't feel right anymore. Not only does it feel as if they are under pressure to cash in, it also feels as if the workers there are unhappy with that and are doing their best to fight it and give us quality games again by showing the upper brass how silly their demands are (eg DA:2 boring combat).

But like I say, it's just a gut feeling, based on nothing more than my reaction to what I hear on here, so please don't take it as something I firmly stand by. It's just a feeling & suggestion.

Modifié par SpunkyMonkey, 12 décembre 2012 - 04:14 .

[toto2300]

Durontan wrote...

I believe that they don't have a choice anymore.

After DA2, SWTOR and Mass effect 3 ending most of the loyal players (including me) are no longer saying Insta buy anymore. For the first time ever players lost confidence in Bioware and now we are waiting to see reviews prior to buying.
That in itself is a slap in the face to Bioware and only thing that can return them to good graces with player community is to make their next game (which is obviously DA3) atleast as good a game as were their original hits (DA:O, ME1 and 2, KOTOR, BG series) or players will start avoiding Bioware games.

One bad game can be forgiven, two also... but failure of ME ending was a slap to community face (We all remember the Now buy more DLC final message we got in the game... Game whose ending at the time made no sense at all), well guess what, community is slaping them back with review expectations prior to buying the game.

Yes, this is precisely why I'm going into this game slightly cautious. I won't be buying it right off the bat, which is unusual for me and a Bioware game. Instead I'll be waiting to see what the consensus is. I'm hoping that they've learned their lessons from DA2. At this point I'm still willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. If this game turns out poor then I likely won't bother with future titles, unless I hear spectacular things about them.