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Are we in the midst of a second "Tactical Cloak Crisis?"


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#151
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CWG07 wrote...

Tactical Cloak is nothing more than a false security blanket. It never works, and is a false sense of hope. Every mob in multiplayer can see you from across the map, specially geth and cerberus turrets.

I assure you, when you're the only non-infiltrator in a game, you'll know it works.

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SOMETHING_FOR_NOTHING wrote...

Jay Leon Hart wrote...

SOMETHING_FOR_NOTHING wrote...

Jebel Krong wrote...

 the only people that make a 'crisis' out of anything are a bunch of crybabies on the forums when they should just get on and play this co-op game.  Biotics are just as powerful as any weapon class - including infiltrators, the best teams generally have a mix of classes/abilities. The real problem is people not knowing how to play properly, spec their character and most grievous: don't use (correct) mods.


what i dont get is

they cry OP but YET EVERYONE HAS THE SAME set of kits so they can play the same OP class as you.....only reason why they cry so dam much is by now everyone has a favourite character that they go to and always play...and if there god chosen character isnt as OP as your favorite character becuase they dont care for anything else they want it nerfed.


It is the general feeling i am getting from the forums, which is god dam stupid and dumb....in a co-op game.


Question - do you like missile glitchers?



why do i get the feeling that like no matter the answer i am going to get some sort of philosophical BS


Yes, because thinking about something rationally is BS :whistle:

#153
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There is no Tac Cloak crisis... just a bunch of butthurt PC elitist DBs who are on a personal crusade to make melee krogans, havoc soldiers, and batarian sentinels as strong as infiltrators, not by buffing the former... but by nerfing the infiltrators. They have some valid points, but no real valid solutions (except buff melee).

Don't give into them... because they have Vanguards on their radar next.

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it only counts as a "crisis" if Fox news makes a logo of the word crisis with the letters crumbling and breaking apart..

#155
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some people on these forums kiss WAAAAAAYYYYYY too much ass.

they know it too, and its lame lame lame.

who gives a flying fuc* what some of these self appointed mass effect cool kids and their groupie fan clubs think.

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 12 décembre 2012 - 11:13 .


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megabeast37215 wrote...

There is no Tac Cloak crisis... just a bunch of butthurt PC elitist DBs who are on a personal crusade to make melee krogans, havoc soldiers, and batarian sentinels as strong as infiltrators, not by buffing the former... but by nerfing the infiltrators. They have some valid points, but no real valid solutions (except buff melee).

What's with the anti-PC comments? Am I missing something or are these people delusionally seeing a console war in everything?

Modifié par Poison_Berrie, 12 décembre 2012 - 11:15 .


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4 seconds of cloaking for a level 1 Infiltrator.....

It used to be 8, so out of the box, you'r cloak is useless for objectives, just 40% damage.

Now the Asari only has melee and power bonus and no weapon bonus....

eitehr BW found a big bug they cannot fix and needs a patch, or they do not want asaris cloaking and running around with Harriers, which in term effects how many players will complain, how every lobby has an asari with a harrier.

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ZoM_Head wrote...

4 seconds of cloaking for a level 1 Infiltrator.....

It used to be 8, so out of the box, you'r cloak is useless for objectives, just 40% damage.

Now the Asari only has melee and power bonus and no weapon bonus....

eitehr BW found a big bug they cannot fix and needs a patch, or they do not want asaris cloaking and running around with Harriers, which in term effects how many players will complain, how every lobby has an asari with a harrier.


they probably got sick to their stomachs of elitist douchebags insisting the only respectable way to play her was with a reegar and incendiary ammo before anyone even unlocked her.

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 12 décembre 2012 - 11:23 .


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megabeast37215 wrote...

There is no Tac Cloak crisis... just a bunch of butthurt PC elitist DBs who are on a personal crusade to make melee krogans, havoc soldiers, and batarian sentinels as strong as infiltrators, not by buffing the former... but by nerfing the infiltrators. They have some valid points, but no real valid solutions (except buff melee).

Don't give into them... because they have Vanguards on their radar next.


Those krogans, soldiers, batarians and havoc soldiers are the beef of the battlefield. While you camp half way across the map, hiding with you'r cloak and picking off targets, those characters are keeping the enemy off you'r back.

With that said, since you are back there camping and what not, go for objectives where tactical cloak has a big advantage, while the beef keeps doing what they do.

Also, i am a PC player, no my butt does not hurt, i prob put in more time in ME3 and previous ME games than you could ever imagin combined, so take you'r platform hate somewhere else, join us on the battle field and get you'r head in the game.

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darkpassenger2342 wrote...

ZoM_Head wrote...

4 seconds of cloaking for a level 1 Infiltrator.....

It used to be 8, so out of the box, you'r cloak is useless for objectives, just 40% damage.

Now the Asari only has melee and power bonus and no weapon bonus....

eitehr BW found a big bug they cannot fix and needs a patch, or they do not want asaris cloaking and running around with Harriers, which in term effects how many players will complain, how every lobby has an asari with a harrier.


they probably got sick to their stomachs of elitist douchebags insisting the only respectable way to play her was with a reegar and incendiary ammo before anyone even unlocked her.

Wish there was a proper stats page, to show what weapons each player uses, kills, headshost etc.

I rarely use the "common noob" setups, only do when i complete challenges and want to start them over again.

100% of the time, my adepts and engineers use pistols and smgs. 100% of the time, my soldiers use shotguns, ARs and melees etc.

I use all my arsenal to my class, but i have seen idiots charging banshees the moment they spawn, meaning brutes, ravengers and marauders are with her, and they get killed so quickly.

A lot of players think they are rambos in the game, when that backfires, they go back to the "Noob setups".

Proud NOT to be one of those.





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Pretty sure there's no crisis.

But the release of a new infiltrator and the stim pack nerf dropped a spark on some old tinders. People who feel Infiltrators are overpowered are upset because now an Infiltrator has the best biotic damage, and a non-infiltrator took a hit.

Infiltrators don't get to carry that huge 90% damage bonus and the ability to run around cloaked for 11 seconds at the same time anymore. And that lowered duration on Cloak means Infiltrators who do more than stand in one place cycling Cloak -> Power -> Shoot, etc, have to actually deal with the weight of their weapons. Compare running around with a -200% recharge speed penalty with duration cloak and damage cloak if you don't believe me.

Infiltrators are probably a bit too strong still, but it's not even remotely what it once was.

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Poison_Berrie wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

There is no Tac Cloak crisis... just a bunch of butthurt PC elitist DBs who are on a personal crusade to make melee krogans, havoc soldiers, and batarian sentinels as strong as infiltrators, not by buffing the former... but by nerfing the infiltrators. They have some valid points, but no real valid solutions (except buff melee).

What's with the anti-PC comments? Am I missing something or are these people delusionally seeing a console war in everything?



This has nothing to do with a console war... the loudest voices in the 'nerf TC' group are all PC players. Stardusk, Annomander, Feneckus, etc. The BSN PC Elitiest DB group...

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ZoM_Head wrote...
Those krogans, soldiers, batarians and havoc soldiers are the beef of the battlefield. While you camp half way across the map, hiding with you'r cloak and picking off targets, those characters are keeping the enemy off you'r back.

With that said, since you are back there camping and what not, go for objectives where tactical cloak has a big advantage, while the beef keeps doing what they do.

Also, i am a PC player, no my butt does not hurt, i prob put in more time in ME3 and previous ME games than you could ever imagin combined, so take you'r platform hate somewhere else, join us on the battle field and get you'r head in the game.


Another PC player with disdain for infiltrators... it's infectious. I named names in my previous response to clear things up.

You do know it's possible to play Infiltrators up close right?

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ZoM_Head wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

There is no Tac Cloak crisis... just a bunch of butthurt PC elitist DBs who are on a personal crusade to make melee krogans, havoc soldiers, and batarian sentinels as strong as infiltrators, not by buffing the former... but by nerfing the infiltrators. They have some valid points, but no real valid solutions (except buff melee).

Don't give into them... because they have Vanguards on their radar next.


Those krogans, soldiers, batarians and havoc soldiers are the beef of the battlefield. While you camp half way across the map, hiding with you'r cloak and picking off targets, those characters are keeping the enemy off you'r back.

With that said, since you are back there camping and what not
, go for objectives where tactical cloak has a big advantage, while the beef keeps doing what they do.

Also, i am a PC player, no my butt does not hurt, i prob put in more time in ME3 and previous ME games than you could ever imagin combined, so take you'r platform hate somewhere else, join us on the battle field and get you'r head in the game.


Oh, so every single Infiltrator in the game camps now. Pathetic, sir. Pathetic.

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megabeast37215 wrote...

This has nothing to do with a console war... the loudest voices in the 'nerf TC' group are all PC players. Stardusk, Annomander, Feneckus, etc. The BSN PC Elitiest DB group...

Ah, I see.
Although, are they solely DB, because of their opinion of TC?
Meh whatever, I just don't understand people who feel the need to call names over these kind of things.

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Poison_Berrie wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

This has nothing to do with a console war... the loudest voices in the 'nerf TC' group are all PC players. Stardusk, Annomander, Feneckus, etc. The BSN PC Elitiest DB group...

Ah, I see.
Although, are they solely DB, because of their opinion of TC?
Meh whatever, I just don't understand people who feel the need to call names over these kind of things.


They're DB's because they talk down to people on BSN, just like I do. We were given this name by the common BSN rabble... and embraced it b/c it's funny.

If it makes you feel better... I'm part of the Xbox elitist DB group.

I agree with alot of their points about how Infiltrators inbalance the game, but I don't see any realistic/financially feasible solution to the problem. Annomander wants Vanguard blood after this crusade...

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megabeast37215 wrote...

Poison_Berrie wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

This has nothing to do with a console war... the loudest voices in the 'nerf TC' group are all PC players. Stardusk, Annomander, Feneckus, etc. The BSN PC Elitiest DB group...

Ah, I see.
Although, are they solely DB, because of their opinion of TC?
Meh whatever, I just don't understand people who feel the need to call names over these kind of things.


They're DB's because they talk down to people on BSN, just like I do. We were given this name by the common BSN rabble... and embraced it b/c it's funny.

If it makes you feel better... I'm part of the Xbox elitist DB group.

I agree with alot of their points about how Infiltrators inbalance the game, but I don't see any realistic/financially feasible solution to the problem. Annomander wants Vanguard blood after this crusade...


OMG u arrogant dbag y u no nerf ur mom instead goddangit! imma find u and kill u slowly elistist!!!11!1!

Modifié par Lathrim, 12 décembre 2012 - 12:15 .


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Meh. BC and TC are two of the signature powers of the game. While they could and should be rebalanced for future games, I doubt they'll be substantially touched up for ME3.

BC is tough to use...how many good vanguards do you really see in PUG lobbies? I could count them on the fingers of one hand. TC on the other hand, yes, is somewhat of a crutch. Nothing wrong with that. There should be some easier kits and characters to let players transition to higher difficulties and to learn the ins and outs of the game.

The first ever gold solo was done by SI using a Widow during the demo days. Even the best players used them to learn the game as all other players are did and are doing.

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Lathrim wrote...
OMG u arrogant dbag y u no nerf your mom instead goddangit! imma find u and kill u slowly elistist!!!11!1!


LOL... you were doing so good until you wrote "your mom" ... it's supposed to be "ur mom". Gave yourself away there Lathrim Posted Image

BTW... nice new avatar.

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megabeast37215 wrote...

Lathrim wrote...
OMG u arrogant dbag y u no nerf your mom instead goddangit! imma find u and kill u slowly elistist!!!11!1!


LOL... you were doing so good until you wrote "your mom" ... it's supposed to be "ur mom". Gave yourself away there Lathrim Posted Image

BTW... nice new avatar.


Oh well. Can't be perfect all the time~ Now gimme the location of a scrub. I feel the needz to put someone down on BSN today.

Thankies. :D

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Lathrim wrote...
Oh well. Can't be perfect all the time~ Now gimme the location of a scrub. I feel the needz to put someone down on BSN today.


It's not always like that... just when the spout idiocy like:

"The Havoc Soldier is RUINED OMFG!!!!!"
"The Slayer is a total piece of garbage!!!"
"Am I a bad person b/c I don't put on equipment in Gold lobbies?"
"Harrier needs a nerf WTF Biower!"
"People need to not judge players who are N7 50, with 15 challenge points, using Avenger IVs on Gold... they could be really good, you just don't know!!!"
etc.
etc.
etc.

I could probably type up a few dozen idiot things that get repeated on here daily, and I'd hit some sort of character limit on how much I can type.

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I lol'ed so hard at this forum. There is not gonna be a nerf on Tac Cloak, we aren't in the middle of some crisis, and Infiltrators have their role. And if they do camp, am I expected to quickscope every Husk with my Javelin?

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Should I remind you of the chaos this place was shortly after the Tac. Cloak nerf a few months ago? :3

BSN is full of good-for-nothing dramaqueens.

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QU67 wrote...

I lol'ed so hard at this forum. There is not gonna be a nerf on Tac Cloak, we aren't in the middle of some crisis, and Infiltrators have their role. And if they do camp, am I expected to quickscope every Husk with my Javelin?


I know there's no Husk here, but... yes.

Alright, not really. You don't need to be that good. :mellow:

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Lathrim wrote...

Should I remind you of the chaos this place was shortly after the Tac. Cloak nerf a few months ago? :3

BSN is full of good-for-nothing dramaqueens.


It was glorious.... almost as good as the day the Krysae got destroyed (not nerfed, destroyed).

It was even more hilarious hearing my friends **** about it, changing their minds, then concluding that it was neccessary and made for a better game.

If powers couldn't be cast out of TC, this would be a more balanced game... but it's just not going to happen. (That would be the only change I would make to TC, let it compete with other powers for cooldown. Find some way to save the Huntress and Shadow).