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Apex Sammoth

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Let me get this straight Bioware you have the time to make an expansion

http://dragonage.bioware.com/awakening

BUT, you still haven't fixed the peformance issues that a lot of PC users are having. Such as 100% processor usage, CTD, and DLC download issues. Look I love the game and all but, you guys need to get your
Priorities straight. As Of Right now you will not be getting my money for and Expansion untill your fix the main game.

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Modifié par Apex Sammoth, 06 janvier 2010 - 12:33 .


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Quadraxas

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exactly, i can't buy a DLC when i can't even run it ^^



but looks great anyway :D

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I agree. What's the point with this game if you can't even play it. I know there are people who can run it but there are a ton that can't. This is ridiculous. I had similar problems when Oblivion first came out but Betheseda fixed that pretty quick with a patch. I can't believe Bioware missed something this huge... or maybe its gotten to the point where they don't care as long as they make money... I bet that's it.

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your frustration is warranted, I'll give you that.......however, I do believe the only way these "minor" issues are going to get addressed, would be if the ENTIRE gaming community was suffering as a whole.

That said, there are ways and workarounds for all these issues to be fixed, as in the correct form of, A: complete hardware SPECS, B: Respectful wording of your request, C: Not flying off the "Handle" and actually trying the suggestions presented to you.

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ohupthis wrote...

your frustration is warranted, I'll give you that.......however, I do believe the only way these "minor" issues are going to get addressed, would be if the ENTIRE gaming community was suffering as a whole.
That said, there are ways and workarounds for all these issues to be fixed, as in the correct form of, A: complete hardware SPECS, B: Respectful wording of your request, C: Not flying off the "Handle" and actually trying the suggestions presented to you.



Actually I have posted the issues several times. There is "No" Fix or workaround that "Works". So I have to wait on the patch.  Image IPB Thats being said means the game should of been tested more before it was released these are not small bugs. I will say this I would think that Bioware would release the patch for it before the expansion but, like I said before they are not seeing a dime of my money untill it is done. I did just try playing today and to my suprise it hasn't CTD or had any long load times but, I only played about 2hrs. Usally sets in when you play a little longer. I will try again and see what's happening with it tommrow. "I am not getting my hopes up" Image IPB 100% processor issues still going.

Modifié par Apex Sammoth, 06 janvier 2010 - 02:44 .


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ffs. This is outrageous >________<!

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Apex Sammoth wrote...

Let me get this straight Bioware you have the time to make an expansion

http://dragonage.bioware.com/awakening

BUT, you still haven't fixed the peformance issues that a lot of PC users are having. Such as 100% processor usage, CTD, and DLC download issues. Look I love the game and all but, you guys need to get your
Priorities straight. As Of Right now you will not be getting my money for and Expansion untill your fix the main game.

"Rant Off"Image IPB


I would imagine they have a different team working on bug fixes who are seperate from the team working on the expansion and DLCs

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Apex Sammoth

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rayvioletta wrote...

Apex Sammoth wrote...

Let me get this straight Bioware you have the time to make an expansion

http://dragonage.bioware.com/awakening

BUT, you still haven't fixed the peformance issues that a lot of PC users are having. Such as 100% processor usage, CTD, and DLC download issues. Look I love the game and all but, you guys need to get your
Priorities straight. As Of Right now you will not be getting my money for and Expansion untill your fix the main game.

"Rant Off"Image IPB


I would imagine they have a different team working on bug fixes who are seperate from the team working on the expansion and DLCs


Hence why I said "Priorities" I don't care who is working on what ? They are a company as a whole...while they enjoy the splendors of my money and many others with issues since release. I still have to sit here and wait.

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Apex Sammoth wrote...

Let me get this straight Bioware you have the time to make an expansion

http://dragonage.bioware.com/awakening

BUT, you still haven't fixed the peformance issues that a lot of PC users are having. Such as 100% processor usage, CTD, and DLC download issues. Look I love the game and all but, you guys need to get your
Priorities straight. As Of Right now you will not be getting my money for and Expansion untill your fix the main game.

"Rant Off"Image IPB


Yeah, Bioware is just bull****, no more will i buy thier ****ty games.

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Their games aren't ****ty, but their technical support seems to be. Their actual technical support website is confusing and not much going on there, and then they have these forums that you have almost no chance of getting them to help you through.

*sigh*

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I am starting to get very wary of buying PC games on release, it seems easier to just wait til it's in the bargain bin since by then the devs have either fixed their broken games or at least not much money has been spent so I don't care!

I guess I should consider myself lucky in that I don't get crashes or anything, just the usual shocking loading times which get better if I use the core affinity 'fix'

Modifié par Drewbioso, 06 janvier 2010 - 04:02 .


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I did not see this whining coming, really I didn't.....

Right...and I've not spent the last 14 years using the Internet.

*sighs* you'd hope people would be less predictable..but..no.


Day one DLC comes out...people whine and complain because it exists. More DLC is announced, people whine and complain because "we're being nickel-and-dimed to death, and the game will never get a "real" expansion.

A Real expansion is announced, people whine and complain because all the bugs aren't fixed yet. Good Lord..be happy you got what you asked for..but that would just be too dang much to ask, wouldn't it?

Modifié par Rayne Myria Solo, 06 janvier 2010 - 04:09 .


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dakkon10

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I wouldn't really say we got what we asked for.

We got the game, great. We got the problems with the game..not so great. Day of/day before DLC is supposed to be released, we get that it's delayed, and we get that they've announced an expansion. One can assume that the expansion may get delayed as well, and if it doesn't, we'll have to play under the same crappy circumstances we play under now.

Shoulda gotten it for xbox

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Rayne Myria Solo wrote...

I did not see this whining coming, really I didn't.....

Right...and I've not spent the last 14 years using the Internet.

*sighs* you'd hope people would be less predictable..but..no.


Day one DLC comes out...people whine and complain because it exists. More DLC is announced, people whine and complain because "we're being nickel-and-dimed to death, and the game will never get a "real" expansion.

A Real expansion is announced, people whine and complain because all the bugs aren't fixed yet. Good Lord..be happy you got what you asked for..but that would just be too dang much to ask, wouldn't it?


a working game is not to much to ask for, what is the point in having an expansion with the same 3-10minute loads, it would be equally un-playable and thus we need a fix, im happy there will be an expansion, althou i wouldnt think of buying it til the main game is stable.

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This is a Support Forum, not a Complaint Forum



Most people that are playing DAO on a PC are not having issues. The only people that post on Support Forums are those that have issues, not the ones that want to say how great their game is. I also find the majority of those people that have issues are playing a new game with specs that are at the minimum or are hovering slightly above it.



Maybe you should take your vent to the general discussion forums so people that actually want help can seek it without skimming through unhelpful threads such as this one.

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Rayne Myria Solo wrote...

I did not see this whining coming, really I didn't.....

Right...and I've not spent the last 14 years using the Internet.

*sighs* you'd hope people would be less predictable..but..no.


Day one DLC comes out...people whine and complain because it exists. More DLC is announced, people whine and complain because "we're being nickel-and-dimed to death, and the game will never get a "real" expansion.

A Real expansion is announced, people whine and complain because all the bugs aren't fixed yet. Good Lord..be happy you got what you asked for..but that would just be too dang much to ask, wouldn't it?




Yep I didn't see this coming too, someone defending the developers of a game that they don't work for. Tell me how much of Bioware / EA payroll do you get? As a consumer I have every right to complain about a product that doesn't work as advertised. It's called Product liability learn something about it for a change instead of complaining about people that have something to say about issues with a product. It is not about the expansion it's about the Priorities of the games nature and the state it is in ATM. Maybe the game works fine for you but, a lot and I mean A lot of us have issues. So please spare me your Bull.

http://en.wikipedia....oduct_liability

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MrBigA wrote...

This is a Support Forum, not a Complaint Forum

Most people that are playing DAO on a PC are not having issues. The only people that post on Support Forums are those that have issues, not the ones that want to say how great their game is. I also find the majority of those people that have issues are playing a new game with specs that are at the minimum or are hovering slightly above it.

Maybe you should take your vent to the general discussion forums so people that actually want help can seek it without skimming through unhelpful threads such as this one.


You are right it's not a complaint forum but, if the users who tend to surf these threads lookiing for fixes that have yet to be addressed this happens. BTW you did not have to Read or Respond but, hey you felt you had to say something. Nobody told you to skim through this one and respond to it.

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Rayne Myria Solo wrote...

I did not see this whining coming, really I didn't.....

Right...and I've not spent the last 14 years using the Internet.

*sighs* you'd hope people would be less predictable..but..no.


Day one DLC comes out...people whine and complain because it exists. More DLC is announced, people whine and complain because "we're being nickel-and-dimed to death, and the game will never get a "real" expansion.

A Real expansion is announced, people whine and complain because all the bugs aren't fixed yet. Good Lord..be happy you got what you asked for..but that would just be too dang much to ask, wouldn't it?


An expansion is announced when they had to cancel release of their add-on at the last minute and NOT properly update the related pages so that suckers like me would buy their points before finding out that the add-on was shelved for fixing. 

You're right...we have no right to whine...

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MrBigA wrote...

This is a Support Forum, not a Complaint Forum

Most people that are playing DAO on a PC are not having issues. The only people that post on Support Forums are those that have issues, not the ones that want to say how great their game is. I also find the majority of those people that have issues are playing a new game with specs that are at the minimum or are hovering slightly above it.

Maybe you should take your vent to the general discussion forums so people that actually want help can seek it without skimming through unhelpful threads such as this one.


actually most players are having issues if you bounce about the forums for a bit you will notice a wealth of issues ranging from minor to huge, but either way there present for nearly everyone, the few who have no issue dont belong in this forum at all as you are not looking for technical support or offering any advice other than to say "my game works". We do have the right to gripe, this game has been out long enough to be fixed and fully playable, but its not, i personally feel as if i paid for a moderatly polished beta test.

This thread is indeed helpful to some extent, yes it is a complaint based post, but at the same time you get the system specs of different users affected by the same issue, and if you notice quad/dual the cpu seems to make no difference, xp /vista/win 7 32 and 64 bit make no difference, nor does choice in GPU , the problem persists, it needs to be fixed, bioware and ea need to step up to make there consumers a bit less agitated or there future games will suffer.

Modifié par kraftykid114, 06 janvier 2010 - 06:01 .


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when there are game breaking bugs, cpu overheating, and countless other bugs that are making the game hell to even run, than i did not get my moneys worth. I got a coaster and a plastic box.



I agree with the OP. Instead of making DLC and sh**ing on the other 1/2 of the community that cant play the game properly, them DLC creators should be helping test and collecting bug reports.



Im tired of seeing people come into a thread and call the op and others whiners and QQ and other stupid ****.

If the ball was in your court and you couldn't play like a lot of us, I'm sure the entire story would be different and you would complain just as much.

Since your game works so well.... why bother posting in PC Technical Support forum other than to insult the OP and others trying to make our words heard?



Bioware / EA should not rely on a community to find temp fixes or workarounds for their games. They need to take responsibility for what they messed up and PROPERLY fix it.

The least they could do is come on here and say "We are working on a fix for AMD issues and DLC problems." or "EA has told us we can no longer associate with the community about bug fixes."

Something needs to be said, anything, otherwise we are all guessing they just don't care the game is broke for many and do not care about their jobs anymore.

They may also not care they are never getting another penny from me and maybe many others, long time loyal customers, unless these issues are addressed properly.



If they would just address the community.........

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Given the time-difference between release of the game and the future release of the expansion pack, it's fairly clear that development of this content (along with all extra content released up to this point) was at least started before the release of the game. Given that, it's not that ridiculous to think that there would be new content that was already in the process of being worked on by the time the game shipped announced/released before some patches that would require entirely new work and rigorous testing to make sure that they don't break anything else are released.

I definitely agree that they've done a fairly terrible job of keeping in contact with their community, especially when there are players who can't play either due to the game being broken for them or the risk of breaking their computer. However, to assume that the expansion wasn't started before launch and isn't mostly complete now is frankly stupid. Yes they've had time to make an expansion pack because they didn't start on it yesterday.

Also, about the point of Bioware being a whole company, are you saying that the Mass Effect 2 and SWTOR teams should drop what they're doing as well? As nice as it would be for them to do that in order to get the patches we need out, it's not going to happen.



TLDR: They've had plenty of time to make the content because they started working on it well before the game was finalized. Unfortunately, they were not aware of the issues many of us are experiencing until after launch. Also, any fixes they develop will require an intense amount of testing to ensure that their fixes don't create new issues. Does it suck? Yes. Is it understandable how this is working? Yes.

Modifié par FFMagee, 06 janvier 2010 - 06:55 .


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No insult intended, there is however much better, and quite simply, easier and more productive ways of "fixing" a problem(s), than posting numerous times in retaliation for peoples' opinions on HOW MANY ACTUAL PROBLEMS EXIST vs. how many people aren't even looking for help because THEY DON'T NEED ANY.



Please indulge us as to how many actual people have issues, in comparison to the number who don't.

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ohupthis wrote...

No insult intended, there is however much better, and quite simply, easier and more productive ways of "fixing" a problem(s), than posting numerous times in retaliation for peoples' opinions on HOW MANY ACTUAL PROBLEMS EXIST vs. how many people aren't even looking for help because THEY DON'T NEED ANY.

Please indulge us as to how many actual people have issues, in comparison to the number who don't.


once that's done, i'd love to know what % of customers it's okay to screw over as long as the other % are just dandy.

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I agree, there's no way I'm going to be getting any DLC or expansions until these problems are fixed.


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The expansion is months away.



They did push back the first real post-release DLC... perhaps they are fixing the major bugs before they ship that. Hopefully.