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[OBakaSama]

Two stand out in my mind thus far.

Mass Effect: the decision on Virmire.

Dragon Age: Origins: the Dark Ritual.

Those choices were such that I actually put down the controller and had to think about before continuing. To further qualify this I have to mention that this agonising was on the first playthrough which I feel is a more accurate reflection of myself as a person rather than gaming on a meta-level. Subsequent games where I face the decision again I do so on a meta-level without the same thought to my own sense of morality.

[Isichar]

Am I the only one who didn't even remotely hesitate when the dark ritual was offered?

[Blue Gloves]

I played this DS game a few years ago called Phoenix Wright: Justice for All.
*****Spoiler warning****** Don't scroll down if you don't want to know.





You have to decide whether or not to try and successfully defend this awful murderer. If you don't, the bad guys who have kidnapped your assistant will torture and kill her, but if you do, you will be allowing a contract killer back out onto the streets where (he has blatantly informed you) he will continue to commit murder for hire.

That one was hard for me at the time, but not as hard as the rewrite/ destroy decision. I couldn't really figure out how rewrite could be a paragon action. I thought for, like two day irl before I decided that I'd rather die for some of my core beliefs than be involuntarily rewritten.

[FlyingSquirrel]

Swagger7 wrote...
You beat me to it!  That was far and away the hardest ethical decision in gaming that I can think of right now. 

Fallout 3 The Pitt Spoilers:

I went in there ready to wipe out the tyrant and then I realized that he was working on a cure for their disease, and that he seemed to have a much better chance of succeeding than the rebels.  Continued slavery with hope for a cure to a horrible unescapable disease, or the freedom to have one generation after another suffer and die?  It took me an entire day IRL to decide, and I eventually sided with the tyrant.  I just wish there was a way to call off the uprising that happened next.  I made sure not to shoot any slaves myself, except in self defense.  Of course, the Raiders still killed them.

I didn't even realize quite what I was doing when I first got to that point. I just agreed not to kidnap the baby, thinking I could go back to Wernher and some of the other slaves to tell them we needed to find another way, then discovered that there was a rebellion under way and that the slaves were all attacking me as an enemy. I even shot a few of the raiders to keep them from killing slaves, but this didn't enable me to switch sides or get the slaves to stop attacking me.

I ended up reloading and siding with the slaves, but I actually just left that DLC inactivated for subsequent playthroughs, partly because neither choice really felt right.

[Addai]

Swagger7 wrote...

Addai67 wrote...
So I would say, the main quest in Fallout 3 The Pitt gave me quite a hard time

You beat me to it!  That was far and away the hardest ethical decision in gaming that I can think of right now. 

Fallout 3 The Pitt Spoilers:

I went in there ready to wipe out the tyrant and then I realized that he was working on a cure for their disease, and that he seemed to have a much better chance of succeeding than the rebels.  Continued slavery with hope for a cure to a horrible unescapable disease, or the freedom to have one generation after another suffer and die?  It took me an entire day IRL to decide, and I eventually sided with the tyrant.  I just wish there was a way to call off the uprising that happened next.  I made sure not to shoot any slaves myself, except in self defense.  Of course, the Raiders still killed them.

I had a hard time as well as I said, but ended up siding with the slaves.  I just couldn't go against them.  I suppose I believe that I would rather be dead than unfree.  It's a lot harder making that choice for other people, though.

Fallout NV spoilers:

On the other hand, I found the big ethical dilemma in Fallout NV to be rather easy.  My first instinct was to take over myself, so I could create a society that was morally superior to the NCR (more fair, more free, etc.).  Then I found out that Mr House was essentially immortal, and that his number one goal was to rebuild civilization and technology, and to built spacecraft to head out and explore.  My first thought was, "This dude is way more qualified than me to run the place.  Besides, even if I did better I'd still die eventually."  So, I loyally served Mr House and served to dampen some of his excesses as much as possible.

That's my "canon" outcome in FNV as well.  After the Lonesome Road, I figure my courier got a good look at her limitations compared to what House had achieved, and... she didn't come out looking so good.  So she'll work within House's laissez faire regime to make life better for people by improving the water network, building on Westside's agricultural development, etc.  The NCR will still be there as trading partner and will hopefully learn to deal with its problems in other ways besides expansionism and exploitation.

Modifié par Addai67, 17 décembre 2012 - 11:27 .

[Addai]

Isichar wrote...

Am I the only one who didn't even remotely hesitate when the dark ritual was offered?

I don't find that a very difficult choice, either.  As I mentioned earlier, the anvil choice was tougher.

[Joy Divison]

I thought the entire last act on Mask of the Betrayer made me think a lot more than I usually do in these games.

The Geth rewrite/destroy choice in ME2 was also difficult.

[Ghost Lightning]

In Super Mario 64 there's a mission where you have to bring a baby penguin to its mom. But if you are careful you can actually drop it off the edge of a floating mountain into oblivion. Many a time I contemplated doing this. Many a time I did do this.

Since then, I've never looked at the world in the same way.

Modifié par Ghost Lightning, 20 décembre 2012 - 06:41 .