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#226
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 Excellent news, Slipperyhammer! You're still relevant, now more than ever!
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Keep up the good work.

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S.A.K wrote...

Looks great in Max. Really looking forward to see this in game:D

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Looks like it's coming along good. Nice work. =]

I'm not sure what final texture you're planning to go with, but I thought I might throw this out there. Not sure where I first found it - someone needs to be credited for it, but I thought the skin and eye tones were interesting. A lot of fan art makes her too purple. This is almost bronze.

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 So BioWare trolled us yet again and we still don't get an actual in-game Tali unmasked model.... :pinched:

Oh well... back to working on my unhooded version of SlipperyHammer's Tail model. ^_^

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On the plus side, it means you're mod still has a purpose :P

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Sil wrote...

On the plus side, it means you're mod still has a purpose :P


Finished playing the DLC there yesterday, and it looks like the mod still have a purpose alright. I even recorded the scene which I thought/hoped was going to be the "face reveal" moment... Alas, that was not the case -.-
I'll put it up on youtube today/tomorrow for those that want to see what Im talking about.

As for the mod:
Me and WV had some look at the import error, but we can't really figure out what's causing it at this stage. I'll be back with more info as soon as possible Image IPB.

Hope you all enjoyed the Citadel DLC Image IPB!

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SlipperyHammer wrote...

I even recorded the scene which I thought/hoped was going to be the "face reveal" moment... Alas, that was not the case -.-
I'll put it up on youtube today/tomorrow for those that want to see what Im talking about.
 !


Please not, when she sings. The crazy voice would destroy the moment.
It should be on Rannoch with adjusted camera, so that it shows her face and not her back, when she puts of the mask. It is the best moment.

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Bfler wrote...

Please not, when she sings. The crazy voice would destroy the moment.
It should be on Rannoch with adjusted camera, so that it shows her face and not her back, when she puts of the mask. It is the best moment.


I don't quite get why so many people have problems with that scene? I found it.. very cute actually. And most of all - it felt real. Tali was always a bit immature when seriousness is not required. I was sitting there, gasping for air, (since that scene made me sort of stop breathing when I expected a face reveal) and was like "Tali just sang for me!!!!!". If it was professional singing there, that would have killed the scene for me. Now this was Sroka's Tali 'all in'.

Now imagine a loved one reveals something very personal, just for your eyes, even embarassing.. she or he would be broken if you don't like it. Tali, I guess, would take it very bad, since she cares a whole lot about her dashing commander. (Nothing personal, just trying to understand).

P.S. Hopeless talimancer, I am.

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Bfler wrote...

SlipperyHammer wrote...

I even recorded the scene which I thought/hoped was going to be the "face reveal" moment... Alas, that was not the case -.-
I'll put it up on youtube today/tomorrow for those that want to see what Im talking about.
 !


Please not, when she sings. The crazy voice would destroy the moment.
It should be on Rannoch with adjusted camera, so that it shows her face and not her back, when she puts of the mask. It is the best moment.



Don't worry. I was not thinking of making that the "big moment" when she reveals her face Image IPB. I was just stating that I hoped she would have done it at that stage (seeing as it was the last chance for us to see if Bioware could do it themselves).

Anyway, time for me to head back to the Tali model Image IPB

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So is this project going to do the face animations for some or more of Tali's preexisting dialog? That's a lot of work!

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Hmmmm, have you considered doing a Tali model without the hood and helmet? I mean, when you speak to her after Rannoch (if you made peace) she says that the Geth have been boosting their immune systems and they're pretty much back to pre-Mourning War levels. It'd be cool if when on the Normandy (and I suppose the Citadel) she was without the helm+hood, but for missions she still used them for protection.

Doubt it's possible to do it for select situations though :(

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Ah, well. Can't win them all.

Glad we still have this. Looking forward to that in-game picture replacement too.

Modifié par PKchu, 09 mars 2013 - 04:32 .


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One of the best and worst moments to have her face visible ingame would be the London farewell... just image seeying her expression through a cracked visor when she says "come back to me..." I would cry like a little b!tch :P

Also maybe in later versions of the mod would be sweet making a model of her with the suit half-opened (think about Miranda's "romance outfit" in ME2) to give her a proper romance scene ingame, but seeying her smiling on rannoch or anywhere else would be already a great victory :D

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Alienmorph wrote...

Also maybe in later versions of the mod would be sweet making a model of her with the suit half-opened (think about Miranda's "romance outfit" in ME2) to give her a proper romance scene ingame, but seeying her smiling on rannoch or anywhere else would be already a great victory :D

Umm, no definite promises yet, but... I'm sorta working on a "unsuited" Tali model as well to eventually animate in a Shepard/Tali love scene on the Normandy ;) (using mostly animation from the Kaidan/FemShep love scene)

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AVPen wrote...

Alienmorph wrote...

Also maybe in later versions of the mod would be sweet making a model of her with the suit half-opened (think about Miranda's "romance outfit" in ME2) to give her a proper romance scene ingame, but seeying her smiling on rannoch or anywhere else would be already a great victory :D

Umm, no definite promises yet, but... I'm sorta working on a "unsuited" Tali model as well to eventually animate in a Shepard/Tali love scene on the Normandy (using mostly animation from the Kaidan/FemShep love scene)


Also prioritize a version with the "buckles and seals reconnected in all the wrong places" (paraphrase).

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AVPen wrote...
Umm, no definite promises yet, but... I'm sorta working on a "unsuited" Tali model as well to eventually animate in a Shepard/Tali love scene on the Normandy ;) (using mostly animation from the Kaidan/FemShep love scene)


:o

Good to know that there is at least one chance to see that happening. And I'd say that yes, the Kaidan/FemShep scene is quite a good start. If fits quite well with Tali's behaviour back in ME2 :3

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AVPen wrote...

Umm, no definite promises yet, but... I'm sorta working on a "unsuited" Tali model as well to eventually animate in a Shepard/Tali love scene on the Normandy ;) (using mostly animation from the Kaidan/FemShep love scene)

I would absolutely love this. I always felt that was one of the few things lacking.

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AVPen wrote...

Alienmorph wrote...

Also maybe in later versions of the mod would be sweet making a model of her with the suit half-opened (think about Miranda's "romance outfit" in ME2) to give her a proper romance scene ingame, but seeying her smiling on rannoch or anywhere else would be already a great victory :D

Umm, no definite promises yet, but... I'm sorta working on a "unsuited" Tali model as well to eventually animate in a Shepard/Tali love scene on the Normandy ;) (using mostly animation from the Kaidan/FemShep love scene)



I feel so nerdy to say that as a 26 year old student in a relationship... but please, PLEASE do this! =D

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SiriusXI wrote...

AVPen wrote...

Alienmorph wrote...

Also maybe in later versions of the mod would be sweet making a model of her with the suit half-opened (think about Miranda's "romance outfit" in ME2) to give her a proper romance scene ingame, but seeying her smiling on rannoch or anywhere else would be already a great victory :D

Umm, no definite promises yet, but... I'm sorta working on a "unsuited" Tali model as well to eventually animate in a Shepard/Tali love scene on the Normandy ;) (using mostly animation from the Kaidan/FemShep love scene)



I feel so nerdy to say that as a 26 year old student in a relationship... but please, PLEASE do this! =D


^^^

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Alienmorph wrote...

AVPen wrote...
Umm, no definite promises yet, but... I'm sorta working on a "unsuited" Tali model as well to eventually animate in a Shepard/Tali love scene on the Normandy ;) (using mostly animation from the Kaidan/FemShep love scene)


:o

Good to know that there is at least one chance to see that happening. And I'd say that yes, the Kaidan/FemShep scene is quite a good start. If fits quite well with Tali's behaviour back in ME2 :3

Do want!:whistle:

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Suggestion about the scene on Rannoch reveal of Tali's face:

Although the lip syncing here in the end of the vid is impressive, I find it kind of unnecessary and a smidge detrimental to the overall impact of seeing Tali's face in the first place.

We need to get to a point where what Tali's face looks like isn't what's important, but rather the emotions on her face are, as she finally realizes her lifelong dream of gaining a homeworld has finally come true. What I'd find more poignant than seeing Tali lip-synced is a teardrop falling from her eye as she sees her homeworld, unmasked.

So what I'd suggest is spend less time w/ the lip sync and more time w/ really nailing the emotion on Tali's face. What we could do is zoom in on just her eyes when she first takes off the mask and says, "Right now, I have this" while slowly panning out to reveal her face, thus the camera doesn't capture the lip sync and the reveal is more gradual. Or, we could even wait for the reveal until the final 5 seconds of the scene after the line is said. What do you guys think?

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FlyinElk212 wrote...

Suggestion about the scene on Rannoch reveal of Tali's face:

Although the lip syncing here in the end of the vid is impressive, I find it kind of unnecessary and a smidge detrimental to the overall impact of seeing Tali's face in the first place.

We need to get to a point where what Tali's face looks like isn't what's important, but rather the emotions on her face are, as she finally realizes her lifelong dream of gaining a homeworld has finally come true. What I'd find more poignant than seeing Tali lip-synced is a teardrop falling from her eye as she sees her homeworld, unmasked.

So what I'd suggest is spend less time w/ the lip sync and more time w/ really nailing the emotion on Tali's face. What we could do is zoom in on just her eyes when she first takes off the mask and says, "Right now, I have this" while slowly panning out to reveal her face, thus the camera doesn't capture the lip sync and the reveal is more gradual. Or, we could even wait for the reveal until the final 5 seconds of the scene after the line is said. What do you guys think?



Hmm, I like your idea or a gradual reveal, but where would you show her "full face with lipsynch" if not during that powerful moment on Rhannoch? I cannot think of any other place to show her face.

Oh wait, I just got an idea... How about during the ME2 romance scene?!!! This would make a gradual reveal possible:

1. Shepard removes Talis visor in ME2, and you just see her eyes.
2. Then during the Mass effect 3 Rannoch scene, you see her face with lipsynch
3. BONUS: If you make peace between Quarians and Geth, Tali gets a new outfit, where her Visor is removed during gameplay (since the Geth enhance the Quarians' immune system)
4. The romance scene in ME3 gets reedited (like that guy said he was doing above with the scene of Kaidan), and we see Tali without suit.


Wouldn't this be great?

#247
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^^Now there's an idea... If it's possible.

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I support most of it, except Tali visible all time in case of peace between Geth and Quarians. That'd be kinda cheap imho, not mentioning that she explicitly says that she doesn't want geth uploaded in her suit.

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Yeah well, the downside is that you have to have and mod ME2 for thsi whoe thing to work, but I don't think ME2 is harder to mod than ME3. And once we have a Tali-face, I guess it should not be that difficult (for the people that are making this mod) to show Tali's eyes during the ME2 love scene. But then again... I do not have a clue... ;)

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Alienmorph wrote...

I support most of it, except Tali visible all time in case of peace between Geth and Quarians. That'd be kinda cheap imho, not mentioning that she explicitly says that she doesn't want geth uploaded in her suit.


Thanks ;)

Does Tali really say that if you make peace? I don't recall that, but it's been a while since I have played ME3 (1 year to exact --> ending trauma). Well, I meant it as a sort of alternate appearence mod, which is optional. You could of course also just have her without her visor in the Normandy, and not during missions, which sould make a little more sense.