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#51
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omg thats beautiful

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badmojo88 wrote...

omg thats beautiful


Hehe, cheers mate Posted Image.

Here's a new version.

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Added hair, changed the eye glow again (Can easily revert back to the old one) and added controls to her hood, so that it can be folded back. Very mixed results, but it's a start.
Still a lot of details left, but this will most likely be how she will look like in the end.
And yes, I gave her a very tiny little smile in this picture Posted Image.

However, if someone finds a way to mod her in too the game, we will most likely not be able to have her with a folded hood. This is because of the constraints from the bone-structure within the game. Plus most of her voice lines already have the "mask" sound effect on top.

Let me know what you all think Posted Image

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Looks great :o

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SlipperyHammer wrote...

badmojo88 wrote...

omg thats beautiful


Hehe, cheers mate Posted Image.

Here's a new version.

Posted Image

Added hair, changed the eye glow again (Can easily revert back to the old one) and added controls to her hood, so that it can be folded back. Very mixed results, but it's a start.
Still a lot of details left, but this will most likely be how she will look like in the end.
And yes, I gave her a very tiny little smile in this picture Posted Image.

However, if someone finds a way to mod her in too the game, we will most likely not be able to have her with a folded hood. This is because of the constraints from the bone-structure within the game. Plus most of her voice lines already have the "mask" sound effect on top.

Let me know what you all think Posted Image


Amazing work. Looks great :)

However, is this intended to be shown when she removes her mask on Rannoch? I ask because she only takes off her mask, not the entire helmet. You wouldn't really be able to see her hair.

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*double post*

Bearbeitet von SlipperyHammer, 17 Dezember 2012 - 04:56 .


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[quote]Cribbian wrote...

Looks great Posted Image
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Cheers Posted Image

[quote]Edolix wrote...


Amazing work. Looks great :)

However, is this intended to be shown when she removes her mask on Rannoch? I ask because she only takes off her mask, not the entire helmet. You wouldn't really be able to see her hair.


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Cheers Posted Image.

You are absolutely correct Posted Image, this is not the model that would be used for that purpose. I made this one in order to try and see if any hair and hood could be modified. Hopefully I can release a small pack containing 1-3 versions of Tali.
In the case of that happening. I so far see:

1 model of Tali adjusted for the game, with a fully animated face under the mask. (However, someone else will have to add her in to the game, as I have no skill in this area).
1 model of Tali with a removed mask, primarily aimed at machinima making and photo editing.
1 model of Tali with hair and animated hood (thus allowing the hair to be visible).

So far I have some smaller editing left. Primarily trying to "skin" the character properly to each bone. Hopefully she will be done this week, unless something happens Posted Image.

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Bearbeitet von SlipperyHammer, 17 Dezember 2012 - 04:55 .


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SlipperyHammer: thank you, thank you, _THANK YOU_ for your efforts in this.

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Epic work! Tali lovers everywhere thank you!

Regarding having the hood folded back. We could always use the good'ol, cut to Shepard while a rustle sound effect plays out then cut back to Tali with hood down, trick.

Bearbeitet von Redbelle, 17 Dezember 2012 - 05:43 .


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Awesome job, but is that the same haircut as Allers?

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PKchu wrote...

SlipperyHammer: thank you, thank you, _THANK YOU_ for your efforts in this.


Anytime, Cheers for your support Posted Image!


Redbelle wrote...

Epic work! Tali lovers everywhere thank you!

Regarding having the hood folded back. We could always use the good'ol, cut to Shepard while a rustle sound effect plays out then cut back to Tali with hood down, trick.


Cheers Posted Image.
True, would be easy to do outside of the game. Good'ol video editing at it's best Posted Image. At the moment the hood still needs more work. But I might put that as a side project, and put my focus on getting the main model 100% working.


Finn the Jakey wrote...

Awesome job, but is that the same haircut as Allers?


Yeah. It's a slightly moddified version. Will most likely use it as a base (it's so much fiddly work to add all the hair yourself). See it as a placeholder for when I get more spare time Posted Image.

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I approve of this Tali face design.

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darthnick427 wrote...

I approve of this Tali face design.


Would some freckle's be appropriate given her young woman character?

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I don't see her depicted with freckles often.

Also...apparently, quarians are grey? I associate them with the purpleish color like SlipperyHammer's model, but...any other "experts of looking at past lens flare" out there?

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Here's the pic to guage the look.

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I see her as having a purplish tint in her flesh tone.

I wonder, if this bedside pic could be replaced in the future with a rendered version of Tali.

Bearbeitet von Redbelle, 18 Dezember 2012 - 05:49 .


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See, that's what I get out of it too. Although honestly, she looks like a white woman who's been photoshopped kind of purple. : /

Here:
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Kind of looks grey to me.

But I guess they could have variant skin tones like humans.

"I wonder, if this bedside pic could be replaced in the future with a rendered version of Tali."

Either a drawn to the style of the EC slides or rendered picture would be better, really. The fact that it's a real picture feels weird in-game. I don't necessarily want to change the "canon" of it as much as the art style.

Bearbeitet von PKchu, 18 Dezember 2012 - 06:00 .


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That hand in the 'real' pic is just freaky. I don't think in game Tali has that gulf between her two fingers. The fact that it's a five fingered hand shopped to fit three is a bit wierd after having seen her in game model hand's. And are Tali's finger's supposed to look that fat all the way along? I thought they started thick at the base and tapered off at the ends.

And where and when did she find the time to put on nail varnish? And why is a suit dwelling Quarian thinking of nail varnish when she just reclaimed her homeworld? (Unless her suit has an applicator built in and we just never saw it).

Bearbeitet von Redbelle, 18 Dezember 2012 - 06:11 .


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Yeah, I always found Tali's hands cute in cutscenes and such...they look odd there.

Here, they're spaced more normally in game:


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*Click to zoom*

(Ugh, that's so low-resolution. What I get when I'm too lazy for Texmod.)

Bearbeitet von PKchu, 18 Dezember 2012 - 06:33 .


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PKchu wrote...
Also...apparently, quarians are grey? I associate them with the purpleish color like SlipperyHammer's model, but...any other "experts of looking at past lens flare" out there?


The Photoshoped image of Ms. Kohistani that Bioware created was given a more purple look to it in addition to the infamous lens flare.  This is a little different from the Extended Cut image which, according to GIMP, is a shade of brown. Though this could just be the effects added by the video editing software Bioware is using.

Unicron9 kept the nail polish in to retain as many similarities as possible with the original.  The only major alteration made was giving Tali a greyer look, which I prefer over the purple.

I thought it a little odd to take Tali's suit color and extrapolate that out as the skin tone for all quarians and Tali herself; but that just my preference.

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I think it was more like, I just got used to the purple over time and find grey to be disorienting becase it's different. Purple just sort of "happened."

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May seem odd, but I kinda prefer grey to purple in all honesty.

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I think it's because it reminds me of those grey aliens from South Park you seen in lots of old media, but those remind me of salarians, and then I just get all confused.

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Posted Image

Just a little test render, I added the awesome retexture of Tali's armor (it can be found here http://social.biowar...8/index/9735492 ). So big thanks to the talented people in that thread Posted Image!
However, I do need a little bit of help.
Tali's "new" visor could do with a bit of a retexture. This texture can be found in this location:

"Mass Effect 3\\BIOGame\\CookedPCConsole\\BioD_Gth002_400Resolution_LOC_INT"

This is the visor that Tali "removes" in the cutscene on Rannoch. I've done some modifications, and it should fit in nicely.
If someone could help, then me and Tali would be very grateful Posted Image.


Note: Do not worry about the skin color of Tali. This can be changed in 10 min. I'll have a look and see how it looks tomorrow Posted Image.

Bearbeitet von SlipperyHammer, 19 Dezember 2012 - 12:43 .


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That is looking incredible! I admit that when I imagined Tali's appearance before ME3, I kind of expected her to look a wee bit like SevenOfNine from Star Trek Voyager, as in she looks vaguely Human but has the odd bit of technology on her skin which somehow looks hot. But, I'm happy with how she looks.. and am getting happier every time I check this thread, awesome stuff.

How close are you to testing her out in game? And is her mouth rigged for movement?

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I remember seeing a vid where someone managed to get the ingame camera inside of Tali's helmet to reveal a grey unrendered face with no mouth.

This is, by far, a major improvment...... but surprisingly it remind's of that general face shape. Maybe it's just me.

Anyway, the work is awesome. I' like how the eye's have been portreyed as emmissive yet still have a hint of pupil in them. Also liking the wisp's of hair that are in view. It makes sense to have the hair swept back as it would be difficult to do so with the helmet on. But for for a few stands to show lend's to that uncontrollable wavy look in the bedside pic.

Regarding her implant's. Would it be worth considering altering the colour/texture to give them a different look? Silvery for example. Or with silver dot's to indicate contact points. They could maintain a black outline with a central silvery core running through them. Or some material that catches the light. Carbon ceramic honey comb for example. Atm the hair and the implant's are so similar in colour that in the past I mistook them for WoW style Elven eye brow's on top of the more human eye browage.

Bearbeitet von Redbelle, 19 Dezember 2012 - 11:56 .


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SlipperyHammer, that texture's based on this original one by Jean-Luc. It's way less sharpened and such, might look better on the model: http://social.biowar.../index/13422555

Also, if you change the skin color of Tali, could you offer both versions? That's probably a preference thing for people.

Bearbeitet von PKchu, 19 Dezember 2012 - 08:26 .