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[SlipperyHammer]

Sil wrote...

That is looking incredible! I admit that when I imagined Tali's appearance before ME3, I kind of expected her to look a wee bit like SevenOfNine from Star Trek Voyager, as in she looks vaguely Human but has the odd bit of technology on her skin which somehow looks hot. But, I'm happy with how she looks.. and am getting happier every time I check this thread, awesome stuff.

How close are you to testing her out in game? And is her mouth rigged for movement?

Redbelle wrote...

I remember seeing a vid where someone managed to get the ingame camera inside of Tali's helmet to reveal a grey unrendered face with no mouth.

This is, by far, a major improvment...... but surprisingly it remind's of that general face shape. Maybe it's just me.

Anyway, the work is awesome. I' like how the eye's have been portreyed as emmissive yet still have a hint of pupil in them. Also liking the wisp's of hair that are in view. It makes sense to have the hair swept back as it would be difficult to do so with the helmet on. But for for a few stands to show lend's to that uncontrollable wavy look in the bedside pic.

Regarding her implant's. Would it be worth considering altering the colour/texture to give them a different look? Silvery for example. Or with silver dot's to indicate contact points. They could maintain a black outline with a central silvery core running through them. Or some material that catches the light. Carbon ceramic honey comb for example. Atm the hair and the implant's are so similar in colour that in the past I mistook them for WoW style Elven eye brow's on top of the more human eye browage.

PKchu wrote...

SlipperyHammer, that texture's based on this original one by Jean-Luc. It's way less sharpened and such, might look better on the model: http://social.biowar.../index/13422555

Also, if you change the skin color of Tali, could you offer both versions? That's probably a preference thing for people.

Cheers there guys ! I'll give her a greyish skin tone as a test, will post a picture of that tomorrow .
She's mostly rigged up, and should be ready for a very early test soon.


But before you all get too excited there's a bit of a snag... 
The main problem is that according to the ME3 Explorer page, the new file have to be the same size (or less) of the original file.

Original is 407kb, mine is 616kb...

Can someone here confirm if this is the case? I've had no luck so far (but then again, I might be doing it all in the wrong order).
Meanwhile I will see if some tweaking can be done, and who knows, I might be able to reduce the file size.

[ElectronicPostingInterface]

I know there's a current issue in the mesh import where one of 500 edges is flipped on import for some bizarre reason, but that we should still be able to "test" it in-game to see if it's functional, works, etc. and just ignore the glitches until they figure that bit out.

There's size limitations often in DLC authorization, but the sequences where this would be use isn't DLC. I wonder why it has to be less.

I'll the ME3 Explorer people for details later.

Modifié par PKchu, 19 décembre 2012 - 09:09 .

[WarrantyVoider]

good luck, and no theres no size limitation for meshes anymore

http://me3explorer.f...st685.html#p685

greetz WV

[FlyinElk212]

No words, SlipperyHammer...just, phenomenal job. I can't believe how well/quickly that got turned around.

Let me know if there's anything you'll need help with. If necessary I'll gladly lend a hand with testing.

[ElectronicPostingInterface]

Yeah, this is going to ultimately result into something special.

[TheWerdna]

There should be two versions for this mod, one with Tali's face somewhat visible when her mask is on, and another where it is closer to how it is in game normally, but with the custom face barely visible instead.

[xtorma]

To be honest, I never really wanted to see anyone elses intepretation of tali's face. Not even bioware's. I had already created a picture in my own mind of it, and that was mine. All someone else's interpretation does is convolute that.

[ElectronicPostingInterface]

I can understand that perspective.

Good thing we're not downloading this into people's games against their will. >_>

[SlipperyHammer]

WarrantyVoider wrote...

good luck, and no theres no size limitation for meshes anymore

http://me3explorer.f...st685.html#p685

greetz WV

Sorry about the delay people, busy day now with christmas around the corner .
Cheers for the help PKchu and WarrantyVoider ! I'll give this a test as soon as possible.


As a side note. Tried the different skins, here's the result:


Not to bad.

And here's another picture showing the inside of her "new" mask:



Cya all later this evening

Modifié par SlipperyHammer, 21 décembre 2012 - 01:26 .

[Sil]

I'll be honest, I am not a fan of the grey skin, I think I've grown too accustomed to her having pink/purple skin.

[Auintus]

SlipperyHammer wrote...

And here's another picture showing the inside of her "new" mask:



Cya all later this evening

But...I don't think mods work on PS3.
Oh well. I'm sure I'll get over it.

[Redbelle]

I think going with the purple skin and rationalising the grey skin seen in the ECDLC slides as different ethnic diversity is the way to go here. Grey Tali look's part plague victim part zombie.

Also. The grey loses the viewer's focus on her eye's, being part toned in with them. And sitting her face in a rich colour frame of her suit just somehow makes her seem......... underwhelming.

That said, I'd suggest experimenting with shade's of grey and see if a darker tone would work. Just to see if grey has possibilities. Right now though I'm for the purple/pink skin.

[ElectronicPostingInterface]

I would go purple as default, offer grey for those who want it.

I kind of like the grey as it is, but that's just personal taste. I'd pick purple too with the ethic diversity explanation. Too burned into my mind.

Modifié par PKchu, 22 décembre 2012 - 06:12 .

[Redbelle]

Just been going over my colour wheel and to see what the contrasting and complementary colour scheme is for purple.

Also took a look at Tali's hood. Specifically the grey tone it has in it's fabric. I'd suggest going darker for the grey face model so it is darker than the darkest tone contained in her hood.

The problem with grey is that it has no complementary colour's. Just contrast in the shade's used. In the case of the grey face's Tali I think a shade that act's to highlight her eye's would be a good approach. We've seen those eye's glowing through her helmet every game. A darker gey tone would serve to accent them with her mask off.

Modifié par Redbelle, 22 décembre 2012 - 07:23 .

[SlipperyHammer]

Yeah, I agree with you all on this one. I like her more in Pink/Purple-ish color. So that will most likely be the default one for this mod (I will add the gray one aswell, so no worries for you all the prefer her in a gray-ish tone).
I gave the "gray skin" another go, this time with darker shades. Here's three versions (the first one is the "original"). I can try adjusting it for more versions later.



Let me know what you all think. Cya all in a couple of days.

Merry Christmas !

Modifié par SlipperyHammer, 24 décembre 2012 - 01:19 .

[Redbelle]

SlipperyHammer wrote...

Yeah, I agree with you all on this one. I like her more in Pink/Purple-ish color. So that will most likely be the default one for this mod (I will add the gray one aswell, so no worries for you all the prefer her in a gray-ish tone).
I gave the "gray skin" another go, this time with darker shades. Here's three versions (the first one is the "original"). I can try adjusting it for more versions later.



Let me know what you all think. Cya all in a couple of days.

Merry Christmas !

Merry Christmas!

And thanks for popping this latest treat in our stocking........ if we had stocking's in this thread. Which I may ask BW to add in their emoticon's for next christmas............ I'm digressing.

The latest pic's of Tali with her darker skin tones immediately provide higher contrast. If I had to pick I'd say that No.2 is the best as it provide's the eye's with the draw power they need, without darkening the skin down to a point where it is difficult to make out her features, eye lashes and such......

I still prefer the pink/purple skin, but no.2 PreVis Tali show's the grey skin can work for the character as well.

Thanks for all the work you've put into realising her in game form.

Hope you have a good christmas!

Modifié par Redbelle, 24 décembre 2012 - 02:43 .

[ElectronicPostingInterface]

Looking good!

As for the grey, 3 is way too dark. I like 1 personally, but 2 probably will be more popular among other people.

Enjoy your holiday.

[NT121784]

new outfit for tali in the next appearance pack, with totally clear faceplate for talimancers.
need this

[Redbelle]

PKchu wrote...

Looking good!

As for the grey, 3 is way too dark. I like 1 personally, but 2 probably will be more popular among other people.

Enjoy your holiday.

Have to admit, no1 does convey a younger looking Tali than the others. The problem for me is that the skin tone is too similar to the emissive eye's which are one of her defining features. (They must be great for reading at night with the light off).

One way around this could be to darken the skin around the eye's.

[SDW]

Grey, hmmmm! Looks somewhat like a dead person's skin. And purple? The only in-game image of her has a very light "caucasian" skin colour. If anything, there is only a super-slight hint of purple in there.
Just my 2 cents, though. I'm not a Talimancer, just found the images interesting and well-done. So if you Tali fans like her better this way, you count more here .

[sentinel_87]

Out of the three grey versions you created I would say your original is the best; number two is not far behind though.

Like FlyinElk said, I am impressed at how quickly things are moving along. Still not quite sure exactly what is trying to be done with this; interesting none the less.

Is the goal to mod the last scene on Rannoch to include this model? Or is it to create a sort video clip with the newer model?

Overall very nice work and I look forward to an update. And if I could help somehow I would not mind.

[ElectronicPostingInterface]

The ultimate goal is to try and step by step get the pieces working for it to be put into the in-game cutscene normally. (An great video clip could be made with it too, though.)

Having an awesome model is a good fundamental start - without the SlipperyHammer's model/work, you can't really *do* much even if you get all the technical bits working.

A lot of it is generating interest/ME3 Explorer getting more dev time.

Modifié par PKchu, 29 décembre 2012 - 12:57 .

[sentinel_87]

I have never used ME3 explorer for anything more than replacing bink videos and audio files. Never did have any success with changing the cabin music.

If I understand it correctly ME3 explorer is eventually supposed to be a fan made UnrealEd correct?

[ElectronicPostingInterface]

How long ago did you use it? It's improved a lot recently.

I'm not familiar with UnrealEd, but yeah, the general idea it's supposed to ultimately have a level editor, etc. once it's all working right.

[sentinel_87]

Not sure what the build version was; but this was back in July and August.