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[Tomwew]

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What did this guy do? Kick someones puppy?

Seriously, this is the meanest thing I've ever seen on these forums. For shame. [/quote]

yeah gota say i don't agree with the chap/gal on most things but i wish no ill will toward him, some people need some of dr. dogg's self help medication to help calm down.

[estebanus]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

What did this guy do? Kick someones puppy?

Seriously, this is the meanest thing I've ever seen on these forums. For shame.

He has made some very questionable threads in the past, which is why he's so infamous now.

[Dr_Extrem]

oh noez .. a new seival thread 


seival posted this a while ago in another thread .. why dig it out again? ...


the geth in mass effect 1 are controled by saren and therefore sovereign, wich is a reaper. the conflict in mass effect 1 is about organics fighting a reaper and its minions.

it has nothing to do with the sideplot, that concerns the geth and the quarian. there is a sidemission in mass effect 1 (geth incursion), where you fight geth, who act outside of sovereigns influence. here you find the pieces tali needs to end her pilgimage. i just played that part half an hour ago.

get your facts straight, look at mass effect as a whole and stop picking out the pieces, that cater only to your theories, while leaving the rest out. its a bad research technique.


this thread should be closed - not because i dont like the endings, but because this thread will derail in apr. 2 pages.

[Islandrockzor]

I enjoyed ME3 overall, much thanks to the multiplayer, but remain unimpressed by the ending, as well as the Crucible. At least the way it was presented to us.

I did not get paid to write that, nor am I the victim of a "vocal minority" or people who "want to ruin bioware's rep". As a grown person I reached that conclusion on my own after seeing the game for myself. Please do not claim that I was brainwashed, for I can guarantee that is not the case.

Thanks.

[Brovikk Rasputin]

Nice OP. I agree. ME3 is just as good as the other games.

[xsdob]

^ You agree with crazy ass conspiracy theories?

[Tomwew]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Nice OP. I agree. ME3 is just as good as the other games.

the combat mechanics are a great improvement, some parts of the story are awesome, but as a whole i was incredibly dissapointed by ME3. won't list the reasons because tired.

[Seival]

Dr_Extrem wrote...

oh noez .. a new seival thread 


seival posted this a while ago in another thread .. why dig it out again? ...


the geth in mass effect 1 are controled by saren and therefore sovereign, wich is a reaper. the conflict in mass effect 1 is about organics fighting a reaper and its minions.

it has nothing to do with the sideplot, that concerns the geth and the quarian. there is a sidemission in mass effect 1 (geth incursion), where you fight geth, who act outside of sovereigns influence. here you find the pieces tali needs to end her pilgimage. i just played that part half an hour ago.

get your facts straight, look at mass effect as a whole and stop picking out the pieces, that cater only to your theories, while leaving the rest out. its a bad research technique.


this thread should be closed - not because i dont like the endings, but because this thread will derail in apr. 2 pages.

Geth are capable of self-determination. Heretics were not controlled directly. Joining Nazara and Saren was their choice. The Geth who disagree to join were not forced to join.

War between Geth and organics was inevitable, and Nazara just sped up the process, keeping it under control to avoid unneeded level of devastation.

[fiendishchicken]

The point by OP amounts to this:



Therefore, since it doesn't fit, you must acquit.

Bravo Seival, for further showering us with our own ineptitude.

[fiendishchicken]

xsdob wrote...

^ You agree with crazy ass conspiracy theories?

Dude, I'm so certain this guy is a troll it's not even funny. No one brown noses BW as much as this guy does, even among pro-enders.

[spotlessvoid]

ME has a thread dedicated to the lore. It's called the IT thread.

[byne]

spotlessvoid wrote...

ME has a thread dedicated to the lore. It's called the IT thread.

Why would you encourage Seival to come to our thread? 

[Linkenski]

There is a lot of sense to what OP says, and i agree after having played through ME1 again recently, as i noted a mention of the words "created" and "creators"

To me the problem that made the ending incoherent to the overarching plot of the trilogy was, that in ME2 It clearly tries to hint that the Reapers have a different motive than what you'd think (and tell me if it isn't when it's revealed in ME3 o.o) But throughout that game it's slowly drifting away from the Synthetics vs. Organics premise.

Also my major complaint when i talked to the catalyst for the first time (yeah i was vocally complaining and whining at the screen because i was alone in my house) was that i made peace between the geth and the quarians. So i was like "WTF Catalyst! Don't you see what is going on!? are you blind!?"

But that doesn't matter now, because they fixed it in the EC, so that, while you still can't use the geth/quarian conflict as an argument, the scene puts more emphasis on the fact that the Catalyst is wrong, and doesn't understand organics, than it did before. And in that i think there is indeed the "Synthetics vs. Organics" theme.

Too bad it still comes as a big "what is going on here, WTF" from players who see it for the first time.

[Seival]

xsdob wrote...

^ You agree with crazy ass conspiracy theories?

Conspiracy theory was just a secondary assumption. The main part of the OP is about the entire ME Story is being consistent and logical.

[Tomwew]

xsdob wrote...

^ You agree with crazy ass conspiracy theories?

i know it's as if people don't realize that the ENTIRE gaming industry was devised by an alien virus with the capability to take over other species to gestate into a new viscious reptillian form which, when exposed to heat for a prolonged period shed their outer layer to become familiar looking 'greys', in an attempt to subdue and distract the population from their efforts in preparing the human race for an invasion on december 22nd.

some people eh?

[StElmo]

Seival wrote...

...All assumptions about "ME3 ending being out of ME Trilogy concept" are invalid. ME Trilogy started with organic-vs-synthetic problem, and it ended with resolving (or postponing) organic-vs-synthetic problem. Moreover, all three parts of the story follow very similar pattern:

 - The Reapers were introduced. 5% of ME1 playthrough.
 - Truth about Saren's motives. 80% of ME1 playthrough.
 - Truth about the Conduit. Truth about the Citadel. Truth about the Keepers. Vigil discovery. 96% of ME1 playthrough.

 - Collectors were introduced. 5% of ME2 playthrough.
 - Truth about the Geth. Legion was introduced. 80% of ME2 playthrough.
 - Truth about the Reapers being half-organic creatures. 99% of ME2 playthrough.

 - Crucible schematics discovered. 5% of ME3 playthrough.
 - Conversation with the Destroyer. Truth about the Reapers' motives. 80% of ME3 playthrough.
 - Catalyst was introduced. The Cycled Harvests concept was explained. 99% of ME3 playthrough.


The whole story (including the ending) is consistent and logical. Nothing is out of place in it. The only thing that is out of place here is some people confusion about the game. ME3 hate was just overhyped by some very vocal haters. All assumptions about bad writing are invalid. The entire "dislike wave" is purely artificial and doesn't correspond to the real state of things...

...Someone intentionally tried to sabotage ME3 from outside? That's quite possible. Because most of "angry reviews" are look like made by hired people. Each based on flawed logic, using some game bugs, and reviewing phrases/actions out of game context.

...There was no "ending fiasco". There was an attempt to attack BioWare's reputation. And that attempt has failed eventually.

? You haven't discussed the lore at all ?

Synthetic vs Organic theme isn't really the issue now we know the catalyst is flawed. The problem is how ME1's events and ME3's ending fit together.

[spotlessvoid]

byne wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

ME has a thread dedicated to the lore. It's called the IT thread.

Why would you encourage Seival to come to our thread? 

Aren't you just a little bit bored of Prothy and HH? Let's spice things up some.

[jkflipflopDAO]

If you must insist on being the white knight, at least pay attention to the story.

[Cerbrus operative]

john_sheparrd wrote...


I agree I don't even understand why these whiners come on this forum
I agree that the ending was strange pre EC but with the EC it's really good!

coming from the person who created "Extended Cut is Garbage" thread.

http://social.biowar.../index/12760443

[Applepie_Svk]

Cerbrus operative wrote...

john_sheparrd wrote...


I agree I don't even understand why these whiners come on this forum
I agree that the ending was strange pre EC but with the EC it's really good!

coming from the person who created "Extended Cut is Garbage" thread.

http://social.biowar.../index/12760443

Trolling is a art....

[Peranor]

Cerbrus operative wrote...

john_sheparrd wrote...


I agree I don't even understand why these whiners come on this forum
I agree that the ending was strange pre EC but with the EC it's really good!

coming from the person who created "Extended Cut is Garbage" thread.

http://social.biowar.../index/12760443

lol

[Samtheman63]

wat

[Steelcan]

Seival you always give me a good chuckle.

I'll bite anyways,

1. It was not a vocal minority that dislike the ending, it was a vocal majority
2. The Catlayst himself is inconsistent with the game, he resurrected an already concluded conflict to make the central focus
3. The endings are largely nonsensical and illogical

[Ticonderoga117]

Cerbrus operative wrote...

john_sheparrd wrote...


I agree I don't even understand why these whiners come on this forum
I agree that the ending was strange pre EC but with the EC it's really good!

coming from the person who created "Extended Cut is Garbage" thread.

http://social.biowar.../index/12760443

Oh, a shocker! <_<

[Tomwew]

Cerbrus operative wrote...

john_sheparrd wrote...


I agree I don't even understand why these whiners come on this forum
I agree that the ending was strange pre EC but with the EC it's really good!

coming from the person who created "Extended Cut is Garbage" thread.

http://social.biowar.../index/12760443

ouch