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#151
strfish1

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Turian cool but with my luck on this game it will take forever to unlock him, i am going to keep playing my favorite game Dark Cloud 2.

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Grunt_Platform

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Cyonan started another thread full of feedback, but I'll voice my own opinion here:

Sabotage:
- The power is the most faction-dependent power in the game. I love the concept (a generalized hack that hits synthetics and organics differently), but it's just too niche. I would consider this a candidate for another overhaul in a patch, if possible. For multiplayer, choosing which factions it's (moderately) effective against feels off for the evolutions, and the anti-synthetic build won't see as much use as backfire/tech vuln.
- The cooldown is way too long for the power's effects, and it keeps it from synergizing well with the Marksman and Saboteur. It doesn't impact the Quarian Infiltrator kit at all.
- The hacking evolutions are currently underpowered. You're giving up effectiveness against 3/4 of the units in the game to gain a marginal, weaker edge on the remaining quarter.
- The force is insufficient to stagger enemies without tactical cloak. Damage output is terrible for its cooldown.

Others:
-You might also want to look into the carrying capacity and power damage for the Saboteur.

-Cryo Ammo for Sentry turret and the consummable are pretty crummy. For the turret, it doesn't seem to chill enemies. For the ammo, armor weakening isn't that good a debuff on its own.

- Homing Grenades are a bit slower than other grenades. The damage is fine on its own, but they're lacking something.

- I love the power-based Asari Infiltrator. It's much more interesting and unique this way than as yet another master gunner.

Modifié par EvanKester, 12 décembre 2012 - 12:07 .


#153
GodLovesATrier

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Eric Fagnan wrote...

We are leaning towards leaving it as is since it does give her an interesting niche among the infiltrator kits.


My humble vote is for leaving it as it is. Provides variety and a more "stealth" orientated playstyle. We have a lot of other infiltrators that can be used as weapons platforms.

My only thought would be that rank 6 should grant a larger bonus than rank 4 damage, I know rank 4 is a real dilemma of duration vs damage but to get to rank 6 you have to spend 11 more talent points.

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tonnactus

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The Asari should still get improved weapon damage from cloak. Not 80 percent,but the base 40. She also a weapon specialist after all.

Modifié par tonnactus, 12 décembre 2012 - 08:34 .


#155
Xero M XTC

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Salarians after christmas though right ?

#156
I3arraqe

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still no drell >.<

#157
Podboq

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holy **** the huntress was already badass.
I don't know why you thought it was necessary, but thanks.

#158
CYBERTR00PER

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Meh.....still waiting for Yahg, Prothean, female Turian & female Krogan.....

#159
mastero87

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Meh.....still waiting for Hanar, Elcor, female Geth & female Thresher Maw

#160
DestroyerN7

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Meh.... still waiting for geth adept, marauder soldier, krogan infiltrator, collector vanguard

#161
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Evo 6 for Huntress lasts 10 seconds? or just the 2.5 sec when breaking cloak? Very vague descriptions. Maybe add in description for Huntress TC so that new players will know it only applies to power and melee? Right now the game is not very approachable for new players.

Sabotage definitely needs lower cooldowns, 10 seconds should do fine. The cooldown is way too long to justify it's usefulness. Among the 3 Sabotage users, only the Turian Saboteur can make use of the 50% tech damage bonus, others can't (Sticky Grenade is Combat).

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tonnactus wrote...

The Asari should still get improved weapon damage from cloak. Not 80 percent,but the base 40. She also a weapon specialist after all.


She should get 150% total weapon damage bonus.

And 200% power damage bonus.

And cloak should make her 100% invisible and invincible.

#163
Upfunkt

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Meh.... still waiting for Male Asari, Geth Biotics, Inusannon and Swarmer.

#164
Tchu Tchu Tchu Paaaa

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Upfunkt wrote...

Meh.... still waiting for Male Asari, Geth Biotics, Inusannon and Swarmer.

Ask Santa for them... :wizard:

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murkworker

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Meh...still waiting for space hamster sentinel

Modifié par murkworker, 12 décembre 2012 - 05:42 .


#166
Mazekial

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Next Week's class for Trolling the Drell Assassin: Volus Protecter Vanguard. Calling it.

#167
BlackbirdSR-71C

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Eric Fagnan wrote...

Grun7mas7er wrote...

 I'm actually happy with today's balance changes. Huntress remains a unique infiltrator. Quarian Marksman got an appropriate weapon buff. My only gripe is that the Vorcha Hunter buff was lackluster.


We are considering further Vorcha Hunter buffs.


The Vorcha Hunter isn't that bad, as he has two great abilities - Bloodlust and Incinerate. What keeps him from being a great character is Submission Net.

So instead of buffing only the Vorcha Hunter, for the love of god please do something about this horribly scaling power.

#168
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Since Bioware is listening to our feedback, here are my opinions on powers that need a little help.

Biotic Orbs: While it is nice that they reduce cooldown speed to allow carrying a heavy weapon it is the recharge speed of this power that hurts it. Maybe a slight decrease to it recharge speed wouls help it.

Sentry Turret: Despite it being buffed in the past it still is quite lackluster. It needs a damage buff and maybe some extra shields. I love the shock feature of the turret but other than that it justs seems meh.

Cryo Blast: It is great at debuffing targets but how is this power honestly balanced compared to Snap Freeze?

Again these are just my opinions but I am glad BioWare is listening to us in the community to attempt to make every character viable.

#169
Zombie_Valhalla

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Whys the man always trying to keep the salarians down? And those poor drell too.

#170
waltervolpatto

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I love the Huntress and this made my morning all shine and happy!!!

TC+Warp + wraith shotty w/incendiary-warp ammo + TC+DC --> melting bosses.....

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Eric Fagnan wrote...

Zoran501 wrote...

I read somewhere that there were going to temporary buffs to the asari huntress to compensate for the bugs with her Tactical Cloak, but that the issue with not affecting weapon damage would be fixed with a patch later on.

Is that still true, or are you thinking of just leaving the Huntress as-is after today's buffs? I think it's nice to have a class that can do a lot of damage with DOT powers, but at the same time I think it's kind of antithetical to the idea of Tactical Cloak. It's not a very cool or interesting power if it only serves as the button you have to press before you use Dark Channel.


We are leaning towards leaving it as is since it does give her an interesting niche among the infiltrator kits.


Well, then it should have changed name, since it's confusing for people that don't check balance changes or BSN and still play MP. I'm thinking of Tactical Biotic and HtH Boost :devil: . I guess it's not possible to buff Biotic Damage from Tactical Cloak too, so she'll remain hipster class for melee maniacs that enjoy long animation finished by death from crossfire and better DoT from powers to steal points from Infiltrator snipers (they tend to hit highlighted targets) that one/two shot with TC and soldiers melting armor with ARs.

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Frozen Mind wrote...

Eric Fagnan wrote...

Zoran501 wrote...

I read somewhere that there were going to temporary buffs to the asari huntress to compensate for the bugs with her Tactical Cloak, but that the issue with not affecting weapon damage would be fixed with a patch later on.

Is that still true, or are you thinking of just leaving the Huntress as-is after today's buffs? I think it's nice to have a class that can do a lot of damage with DOT powers, but at the same time I think it's kind of antithetical to the idea of Tactical Cloak. It's not a very cool or interesting power if it only serves as the button you have to press before you use Dark Channel.


We are leaning towards leaving it as is since it does give her an interesting niche among the infiltrator kits.


Well, then it should have changed name, since it's confusing for people that don't check balance changes or BSN and still play MP. I'm thinking of Tactical Biotic and HtH Boost :devil: . I guess it's not possible to buff Biotic Damage from Tactical Cloak too, so she'll remain hipster class for melee maniacs that enjoy long animation finished by death from crossfire and better DoT from powers to steal points from Infiltrator snipers (they tend to hit highlighted targets) that one/two shot with TC and soldiers melting armor with ARs.


Frozen Mind, just a heads up, the Huntress Cloak/Dark Channel or Cloak/Warp combos not only allows her an already very deadly damage increase, but also allows her to pack heavier weapons than any other biotic and not take much of a cooldown penalty. True she doesn't get the cloaked weapon damage bonus, but  still.  Image IPB

Eric, I'm loving this new niche the Huntress has over the other infiltrators. I vote to keep her as is!  Image IPB

Zoran501... not sure what you're talking about. The Huntress already gets a major boost to biotics with her cloak, which allows her to rip through enemies pretty effectively. So are you trying to say it should be boosted even more? If so, then I would have to disagree. She's just fine now. 

#173
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Any plans to buff the Servers anytime soon?

#174
DestroyerN7

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I don't know if this only happen to me, I've seen players that looks shoting their weapons all the time however they are not killing anything

#175
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Buff the Vorcha Hunter/ Turian Saboteur / Sabotage /  an underpowered weapon(s)/power(s).
from what they are right now:
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to this like the kishock and t.sold. are now:

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^^^^^^to this


look forward to the next weeks balance changes.
I bet will be very interesting. Image IPB

Modifié par solidprice, 13 décembre 2012 - 05:22 .