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[CosmicGnosis]

I keep seeing people state that the Extended Cut doesn't explicitly show that Destroy kills all synthetics. They suggest, then, that synthetics may have actually lived if you pick Destroy. This drives me crazy.

Yeah, it doesn't explicitly show it, but it's strongly implied.



See this slide? Do you know how you get this slide?

Conditions:

1. Side with the geth on Rannoch.
2. Choose Destroy.

Result: Rannoch is a wasteland.

Yep, the geth are dead in the Destroy ending. And EDI's name is on the memorial wall.

Destroy kills EDI and the geth. Accept it.

Edit: Some people believe that Destroy targets only synthetics with "Reaper code", which means that only EDI and the geth die, and not necessarily all synthetics. I suspect that BioWare actually intended for all synthetics to die, but I have altered the OP to state that at least EDI and the geth die.

Modifié par CosmicGnosis, 12 décembre 2012 - 02:38 .

[Tomwew]

this is in dispute?

[Steelcan]

No proof it kills ALL synthetics, just those augmented with reaper technology which both EDI and the geth were.

A more accurate statement, Destroy kills all reaper augmented synthetics

[arial]

however, Shepard had synthetic implants, as did most Soldiers and Biotics.

But on high-ems we get the breath scene.

I honestly think destroy only targets Reaper code. Geth uploaded Reaper code to themselves, so they die. EDI was based on Reaper Code, so shes dead. Relays are wrecked, because they had Reaper code.

[Tomwew]

Steelcan wrote...

No proof it kills ALL synthetics, just those augmented with reaper technology which both EDI and the geth were.

A more accurate statement, Destroy kills all reaper augmented synthetics

perhaps but it is implied that it destroys all synthetics. without knowing if synthetics exist in the rest of the galaxy (or other galaxies for that matter) i guess that's open to speculation. lots of it. and from everyone preferably

[MegaSovereign]

Well yea. It was also twitter confirmed that they decided to keep the Geth and EDI dead in the EC.

And no I'm not gonna link it. Cuz I'm lazy.

[Ticonderoga117]

Yet Shepard lives. Also, wouldn't they need EM shielding for space travel?

[MisterJB]

Why did no one colonize Rannoch? I assume it has resources if the geth were capable of building a fleet.

Modifié par MisterJB, 12 décembre 2012 - 01:37 .

[Steelcan]

MisterJB wrote...

Why did no one colonize Rannoch? I assume it has resources if the geth were capable of building a fleet.

Respect?  Also the only species capable of using it is the Turians, and they would be busy rebuilding their empire, not worried about colonizing 

[MisterJB]

Steelcan wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

Why did no one colonize Rannoch? I assume it has resources if the geth were capable of building a fleet.

Respect?  Also the only species capable of using it is the Turians, and they would be busy rebuilding their empire, not worried about colonizing 

When was the last time sentient beings chose respect over resources?

And resources like metal or eezo, necessary to build a fleet, can be used by anyone, not just dextro acid based lifeforms. Resources that would help rebuild an empire.

[His Name was HYR!!]

 Yep, the geth are dead in Destroy. Quite a few people are in denial of that fact.


They can say what they want to kid themselves, but writer intent is obvious.

[Steelcan]

MisterJB wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

Why did no one colonize Rannoch? I assume it has resources if the geth were capable of building a fleet.

Respect?  Also the only species capable of using it is the Turians, and they would be busy rebuilding their empire, not worried about colonizing 

When was the last time sentient beings chose respect over resources?

And resources like metal or eezo, necessary to build a fleet, can be used by anyone, not just dextro acid based lifeforms. Resources that would help rebuild an empire.

Yeah but it would be a hassel to go all the way out there just for resources, there are much closer sites

[Steelcan]

HYR 2.0 wrote...

 Yep, the geth are dead in Destroy. Quite a few people are in denial of that fact.


They can say what they want to kid themselves, but writer intent is obvious.

Of course they are dead in the Destroy ending, just like they are in the Control and Synthesis endings

[OdanUrr]

Technically, I can't see how the Crucible could pull off such a stunt: destroying the Reapers, the Geth, and damaging "technology" in all its forms. Until they can explain to me how the Crucible works, in every case, I'll just go with the more scientifically-possible explanation that only the Reapers have been destroyed (as per the options suggested in the thread on my signature).

[fiendishchicken]

Not disputing it. I don't like it, and it's not finished in my opinion, and it's certainly not my headcanon.

It's an acceptable tradeoff for me for the game. I've sacrificed the synthetics now to kill the Reapers for good. And without the Reapers, any new synthetics we create will have to be dealt with the old fashioned way. We have to find a way to have peace with them, which I honestly believe isn't too hard.

[Tomwew]

was it meant to kill v.i's? how's my super bad ass shepard v.i who wants to strap CAIN's to drones? i hope he's o.k he seemed nice.

[Chashan]

CosmicGnosis wrote...

I keep seeing people state that the Extended Cut doesn't explicitly show that Destroy kills all synthetics. They suggest, then, that synthetics may have actually lived if you pick Destroy. This drives me crazy.

Yeah, it doesn't explicitly show it, but it's strongly implied.


See this slide? Do you know how you get this slide?

Conditions:

1. Side with the geth on Rannoch.
2. Choose Destroy.

Result: Rannoch is a wasteland.

Yep, the geth are dead in the Destroy ending. And EDI's name is on the memorial wall.

Destroy kills all synthetics. Accept it.

Given that quite a number of people opt to make peace between the both of them, it is puzzling the good developers did not consider coming up with some slide that is specific to that and the Destroy-choice. Given the rather positive to optimist tone of the reconciliation between inventor and created, hinting at the Quarians debating to reintroduce the Geth would have been quite fitting, really, instead of merely reusing the "QuarianCity"-slide or what it is called.

A nice gimmick, certainly, although its exclusive placement is...odd, to say the least. Although it does not alter the fundamental difference between the loss of sentient machines and that of a sentient species. Namely, recreating the former is a deal more plausible than the latter.

[Ticonderoga117]

fiendishchicken wrote...

Not disputing it. I don't like it, and it's not finished in my opinion, and it's certainly not my headcanon.

It's an acceptable tradeoff for me for the game. I've sacrificed the synthetics now to kill the Reapers for good. And without the Reapers, any new synthetics we create will have to be dealt with the old fashioned way. We have to find a way to have peace with them, which I honestly believe isn't too hard.

Trying not to kill them all seems like a good place to start.

[Obadiah]

Thanks. Never seen that slide.

[MegaSovereign]

OdanUrr wrote...

Technically, I can't see how the Crucible could pull off such a stunt: destroying the Reapers, the Geth, and damaging "technology" in all its forms. Until they can explain to me how the Crucible works, in every case, I'll just go with the more scientifically-possible explanation that only the Reapers have been destroyed (as per the options suggested in the thread on my signature).

Well, it targets synthetic lifeforms in the high EMS variant. That suggests that the Crucible destroys whatever adaptive code that makes them sentient, Reaper code or otherwise.

[capn233]

Oh well.

[d-boy15]

yes yes...

just like the fact that in control there is no reaper go the sun and shepard is taking control
of the galaxy in a good manner or not.

and synthesis is forced catalyst ideal on everything and change everyone willingly or not.

to be fair, many of you control and synthesis chooser are headcanon like that case don't act like
people who choose destroy are the only one that denied the downside.

[dreman9999]

Steelcan wrote...

HYR 2.0 wrote...

 Yep, the geth are dead in Destroy. Quite a few people are in denial of that fact.


They can say what they want to kid themselves, but writer intent is obvious.

Of course they are dead in the Destroy ending, just like they are in the Control and Synthesis endings

They are shown alive in control and synthesis.....Not at all in destroy.

[dreman9999]

OdanUrr wrote...

Technically, I can't see how the Crucible could pull off such a stunt: destroying the Reapers, the Geth, and damaging "technology" in all its forms. Until they can explain to me how the Crucible works, in every case, I'll just go with the more scientifically-possible explanation that only the Reapers have been destroyed (as per the options suggested in the thread on my signature).

It's called an emp.

[Chashan]

dreman9999 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

HYR 2.0 wrote...

 Yep, the geth are dead in Destroy. Quite a few people are in denial of that fact.


They can say what they want to kid themselves, but writer intent is obvious.

Of course they are dead in the Destroy ending, just like they are in the Control and Synthesis endings

They are shown alive in control and synthesis.....Not at all in destroy.

I think the joke, in his case, was that he elected to have them eradicated during the Rannoch-arc...