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[JedTed]

 An interesting theory i had after bringing Javik to Thessia.  What if the asari are humans with heavy genetic modification?  Javik says that the Protheans genetically modified the asari to give them biotics so maybe the blue skin and mono-gender is a side-effect of those experiments.

Anyone else have any thoughts on this?

[Vic-TIM of Circumstance]

Doubtful, but there is an artifact on Eletania that suggests the Protheans may have been studying Humans as well. Maybe the similarities are due to the guidance of the Protheans?

[BeastSaver]

In Mass Effect 2, in the bar on Illium, there is a bachelor party. The attendees are a human, salarian, and turian. If you eavesdrop on their conversation, each of them thinks the asari dancer looks like a female of their own species.

[justafan]

Doubtful, anatomically modern humans predate the protheans by several cycles. Unless the Protheans were trying to make Asari more human, in which case I'm flattered.

[JedTed]

BeastSaver wrote...

In Mass Effect 2, in the bar on Illium, there is a bachelor party. The attendees are a human, salarian, and turian. If you eavesdrop on their conversation, each of them thinks the asari dancer looks like a female of their own species.

I remember that scene, and i recall my brain partially exploding the first time i heard it. 

If it's true then i wonder what the asari REALLY look like if they can just subtly make themselves resemble any other race.  Kind of a scary thought but i can't help it.

Maybe they're just all tenticles like the hanar.

Modifié par JedTed, 12 décembre 2012 - 07:46 .

[KiwiQuiche]

Doubt Bioware put that much thought it in. They just decided to do a race of hot space lesbians to attract those OMG BOOBIES folk.

I would probably like the Asari more if they actually did things rather then all be strippers/dancers at one point in their lives and generally be useless fanservice.

But no, I don't think they have any genetic relation to humans.

[Ieldra]

The fact that asari are so similar to humans that they have human-compatible triggers for sexual attraction (like no other species even on Earth has) has been a big case for broken suspension of disbelief for me ever since ME1.

Some time before ME2 came out, I posted a long rant about this on the old forums, culminating in the question: "How the hell do the asari attract species that don't look like them? Mind control?" It was funny to see someone else thought along the same lines when I came across that bachelor party.

It was a joke, though. Mind control wouldn't work through electronic communication. On the other hand, it's funny to play with the idea that asari really look like illithids, which surprisingly isn't at all far-fetched: humanoid body shape, mind control, tentacle heads, magic ability.

Conspiracy theory:
Asari really do look like illithids and they have been mind-controlling everyone to see them as beautiful all along. One of the next DLC will reveal their true shape. Make it so, Bioware

Somewhat more seriously, the asari similarity to humans can only be explained by assuming that either (a) there is a not-too-distant common ancestor, or ( someone has deliberately engineered one to look like the other. Convergent evolution can account for a generally similar body shape and explain that most other species are humanoid, but being outright identical down to sexual attraction triggers (except for the hair) is so astronomically improbable that it's inacceptable without an explanation. Whatever the reason, the similarity would have the scientific community in an uproar, so unlikely that is, and that nobody comments on that huge improbability is the final nail in the coffin of my suspension of disbelief regarding the asari.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 12 décembre 2012 - 08:18 .

[DirtyPhoenix]

JedTed wrote...

BeastSaver wrote...

In Mass Effect 2, in the bar on Illium, there is a bachelor party. The attendees are a human, salarian, and turian. If you eavesdrop on their conversation, each of them thinks the asari dancer looks like a female of their own species.

I remember that scene, and i recall my brain partially exploding the first time i heard it. 

If it's true then i wonder what the asari REALLY look like if they can just subtly make themselves resemble any other race.  Kind of a scary thought but i can't help it.

Maybe they're just all tenticles like the hanar.

Now I can never look at Liara the same way again. Thanks for that.

[JedTed]

@Ieldra2 I don't usually think about it either but i like to imagine all the wild possibilities.

It's hard to imagine that the Protheans, who studied the asari and humans, never once thought "hey, these two species look oddly familier." I wonder why Javik never comments on that strange anomaly.

[Ieldra]

The real appearance of the asari, based on evidence from ME2 (bachelor party):



*Humanoid body shape? Check.
*Blue skin? Check.
*Tentacle heads? Check.
*Mind control? Check.
*Magic ability? Check.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 12 décembre 2012 - 09:05 .

[pablosplinter]

Pleasure GELFS?

[tonnactus]

JedTed wrote...

BeastSaver wrote...

In Mass Effect 2, in the bar on Illium, there is a bachelor party. The attendees are a human, salarian, and turian. If you eavesdrop on their conversation, each of them thinks the asari dancer looks like a female of their own species.

I remember that scene, and i recall my brain partially exploding the first time i heard it. 

If it's true then i wonder what the asari REALLY look like if they can just subtly make themselves resemble any other race.  Kind of a scary thought but i can't help it.

Maybe they're just all tenticles like the hanar.

They cant fool cameras.

[iSousek]

Asari didn't get their biotics from protheans, they are biotics because Thessia is eezo rich planet.

Javik says that their biotics are a result of intensive genetic research which can mean that they researched how to amplify percentage of biotic newborns to 100%.

More on topic. I agree that Asari and humans look unrealistically similar. It's funny, because when you think of it, all non-human species that find asari attracitve should largely find human females attractive.

Though I think that the reason lies not with protheans, but rather with BioWare wanting to give us hot alien blue chicks, and in order to do that, asari needed to look familiar.

[Kashola]

The real-world reason: They wanted to do the traditional sci-fi "hot alien babe", like the green-skinned chick in Star Trek. Nothing more.

My in-game head cannon: Evolved aquatic apes.

[o Ventus]

justafan wrote...

Doubtful, anatomically modern humans predate the protheans by several cycles.

What?

[Selene Moonsong]

BeastSaver wrote...

In Mass Effect 2, in the bar on Illium, there is a bachelor party. The attendees are a human, salarian, and turian. If you eavesdrop on their conversation, each of them thinks the asari dancer looks like a female of their own species.

I always felt this was a weak argument: 

Asari eat the same kinds of foods as humans, wear human clothes/armor, etc. 

I suspect that Asari releases pheromones or some subtle biotic ability released subconciously that may have an affect on the perceptions of other species, and that humans may actually see them closer to how they may naturally appear than other species may.

Modifié par Selene Moonsong, 12 décembre 2012 - 12:44 .

[Restrider]

Wasn't it mentioned in Mass Effect: Revelations that the galactic species were surprised that human females resembled a lot the Asari?
If this statement is true (not sure though), then it would diminish the credebility of the mind-control idea.
However I think the subtle form of manipulation through pheromones or other ways to like the Asari is still realistic.

[Dubozz]

My headcanon about asari:

[geceka]

o Ventus wrote...

justafan wrote...

Doubtful, anatomically modern humans predate the protheans by several cycles.

What?

The ****** sapiens has been around on our little planet for 200.000-150.000 years – We've been around in pretty much our current evolutionary stage for about 3-4 cycles. While the Protheans got wiped out by the Reapers, we were in our early Stone Age. That would be a bit late for Protheans to meddle with our evolution, though they could, of course, still influence us genetically directly, not relying on evolution by itself.

However, the Reapers have been around for a really long time, so consider this: What if they wiped out a civilization in a cycle billions of years ago, the wreckage of their ships floating through space and eventually crashing on Earth and Thessia, spreading some single-cell, resilient organism on the planets, which seeded life to formerly lifeless worlds. Over time, those organisms would evolve into Humans and Asari, starting from quite a similar biology and thus evolving towards quite similar "local maxima" in terms of fitness...

Anyway, I don't even think Asari are the most obvious anomaly – I mean, don't Quarians look pretty much exactly like our supermodels? 

[spirosz]

Hey Quarians and Humans look alike, except for the whole hand/feet thing.



Asari are practically the same, just with some tentacle shiet and shoulder epicness.

[InvincibleHero]

Made to appeal to human beings that play a game made by other human beings. The simplest explaination is often best.

[hadrain77]

InvincibleHero wrote...

Made to appeal to human beings that play a game made by other human beings. The simplest explaination is often best.

Most rational explaination. I salute you sir.

[Ieldra]

hadrain77 wrote...

InvincibleHero wrote...
Made to appeal to human beings that play a game made by other human beings. The simplest explaination is often best.

Most rational explaination. I salute you sir.

We all know that. We were looking for a believable in-world rationalization. Result: zip.

[Kashola]

Ieldra2 wrote...

hadrain77 wrote...

InvincibleHero wrote...
Made to appeal to human beings that play a game made by other human beings. The simplest explaination is often best.

Most rational explaination. I salute you sir.

We all know that. We were looking for a believable in-world rationalization. Result: zip.

I'm sticking with my water monkeys head-cannon.