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[greghorvath]

oversight.

On your part, naturally...

[Grumpy Old Wizard]

HolyAvenger wrote...

Guglio08 wrote...

He's not good but more importantly he's really boring to play.

This is really my problem with him when I tried him out last night. Even against geth, with sabotage hacking, he's boring. Turret is fire and forget, sabotage's long CD makes it not very spammable and grenades with a long cast and flight time? Eh.

Ehhhh....I though you liked the Volus Adept.  He does.....what....shield spam and shoots, without good weapon passives. 

I kind of like the TS.  Yes, the turret could use a buff.  Many of us have asked for the drones, turrets, an decoy to be buffed after the bif nerf that prepared the way for the Volus Sentinel.

The TS have very good weapon passives.  I find hacking geth hilarious.  Yeah, sabotage could use a buff too.  But with the strong weapon passives, turret, homing grenade, and sabotage he is not a bad character.

Modifié par Grumpy Old Wizard, 12 décembre 2012 - 12:15 .

[Learn To Love Yourself]

greghorvath wrote...

Jack Crapper wrote...

*REFERRING TO JACK CRAPPER'S SIG*

Ninja Stan has no idea about what spam is.

Incompetence all around.

Agreed, good sir.  The powers that be fear the truth be known.  If the truth of the greatest nerf, endangering each and every one of us, were to be spread, only mayhem would ensue.  Salvation through Destruction to avoid Destruction through Salvation.  That's some pretty deep stew right there.

[HolyAvenger]

Grumpy Old Wizard wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

Guglio08 wrote...

He's not good but more importantly he's really boring to play.

This is really my problem with him when I tried him out last night. Even against geth, with sabotage hacking, he's boring. Turret is fire and forget, sabotage's long CD makes it not very spammable and grenades with a long cast and flight time? Eh.

Ehhhh....I though you liked the Volus Adept.  He does.....what....shield spam and shoots, without good weapon passives. 

Huh? Nope. Dislike that power set so much I have never even played it. Gimme any other adept, even the Krodept, over playing the Voldept.

The Volengineer is OK, because Recon Mine and Proxy Mine are fun to use in combination. Tricky to get the placement and timing right.

I just find the TSab boring and not enough synergy between his powers at the moment to make it fun to use. Homing Grenades are my least favourite grenades, and sabotage one of my least favourite powers.

[greghorvath]

Jack Crapper wrote...

greghorvath wrote...

Jack Crapper wrote...

*REFERRING TO JACK CRAPPER'S SIG*

Ninja Stan has no idea about what spam is.

Incompetence all around.

Agreed, good sir.  The powers that be fear the truth be known.  If the truth of the greatest nerf, endangering each and every one of us, were to be spread, only mayhem would ensue.  Salvation through Destruction to avoid Destruction through Salvation.  That's some pretty deep stew right there.

whoa... I am all dizzy...

and...and... what if "cat" was spelled D-O-G?

(a cookie for anyone that gets the reference)

Modifié par greghorvath, 12 décembre 2012 - 12:22 .

[APEX KING19]

SpineVomit wrote...

The Sentry Turret struggles to kill mooks on Silver. This saddens me.

no chance. it rips on silver.

[Tallgeese_VII]

How can he be bad.. with Turian passive & Jet mobility?

Stop treating him like Power focused character probably is a good thing.

Use Sentry turret to distract enemy while taking advantage of other skills and gunning cannot be that bad.

[InvincibleHero]

Turians are soldiers not engineers. They are more martial than technical. All classes cannot be top shelf or the game would be too easy. Just enjoy the variety it brings to the table.

How many games give you as many characters as BW does and people expect complete and perfect balance? LOL. None that I am aware of other than Pokemon which also has winners and losers.

[SlayerGP]

The sentry turret sucks. Now if we could deploy the same turret that the Cerberus engineers use, that would make me happy

[megabeast37215]

Grumpy Old Wizard wrote...
Ehhhh....I though you liked the Volus Adept.  He does.....what....shield spam and shoots, without good weapon passives. 

Volus Adept rules.

Stasis + Kishock + headshot + Warp Rounds = OSK all mooks, including Phantoms/Possessed Captains.. very few points in Stasis needed for this.

He also can max Stasis + Orbs and chain Bio booms together on groups (since they don't compete for cooldown unless you cast Orbs again). This however, cannot be done on bosses.... but he can Prime/detonate his own Bio booms vs mooks faster than anyone who doesn't have annihilation field.

Have you ever cast all 3-4 orbs on a target with multiple primers on it? It's amazing. Throw 4 orbs and it's something like: Bio Boom, Fire Boom, dud, Bio Boom... all within a few seconds, all on the same Atlas/Prime/Praetorian.

Then of course there is Shield Boost... which is teh awesome.

[KyreneZA]

greghorvath wrote...

oversight.

On your part, naturally...

Yep. Rectified...

[RiouHotaru]

The problem is that he's incredibly solid, and well-rounded. He doesn't do anything interesting or noteworthy. I consider the fact they made him a Jetpack turian as opposed to a normal turian a good thing. Turian-level durability with the Armiger Legion mobility? He's probably -the- most agile Engineer now.

[Imp of the Perverse]

I'm pretty happy with him. Sabotage boosts melee damage in addition to the homing grenades, so you can go with the same kind of novel melee build that you can with an FQI. She gets a bit more melee damage and sneakiness thanks to tactical cloak, but his melee is quick, AOE, and can cover a lot of ground, and jetpacks can get you back out of danger easy. I'd rather have stimpaks or cloak than the turret, I specced out of it, but I'm getting plenty of survivability out of a cyclonic modulator IV.

He havocs better than the havoc - if you compare the turian heavy melee to havoc strike, the damage isn't even comparable, and the saboteur's melee is even more damaging thanks to sabotage (it works out to about triple the damage of havoc strike) which also strips shields if you wait for the backfire. Even if you're double striking with havoc, the damage works out about the same, but the saboteur has homing grenades to help with bosses.

A sabotage cooldown buff would be nice, but it's fast enough on my current build to not be a big hindrance.

[IndigoVitare]

I disagree with your assessment of Sentry Turret, but then I already knew you didn't like it.

In any case, it does tons of damage with the Sabotage Tech Vunerability. That said, the recharge time is definatly too long.

[Freskione2]

I rather like him. I haven't had any problems with the turret or sabotage (other than people killing a turret, atlas or bomber I've hacked right off) and homing grenades are awesome.

[-Sxx-]

I still feel the turret needs some attention on every class.

[Hyperglide]

"Oh hai Mark!"

Sees all the fail in this thread..

"kthxbai!!"

[Hyperglide]

Grumpy Old Wizard wrote...

The Turian Engineer is about 5 million times as good of an engineer as the Volus Adept is a good adept.

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[Althix]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Ok seriously, I agree he's not a good character. But plenty of those exist in the game.

Sometimes it becomes really evident that the devs do not play regularly above bronze/silver.

this

[GordianKnot42]

Funny, because I do really well with FQE's turret, but I couldn't synergize with the Sabby's for some reason. Also kept trying to tech burst Sabotage with Homing Grenades, but it would take forEVer for the grenade to find its mark, if it did at all. (Or else a Phantom would just cloak and make it miss.)

I'm in agreement with Stardusk.

[DJ Airsurfer]

Okay, this is getting out of hand. The Saboteur is actually good, and to those saying they struggle to kill things on Silver with the turret -- 1. What are your builds? 2. My Turret killed plenty of things on Gold, so if it's bad on Silver for you.. Well, I dunno.

[Tortugueta]

I would like the sentry turret to get some real improvement, not the bad joke we got when it was buffed some time ago. Right now it is barely "meh" on gold when maxing up damage, speccing for maximum power damage bonus in the passive and using power amplifier IV. Seriously, give it like double base damage, not a 10^-15% like the last time for god's sake.

Before the buff I was really surprised that the devs would leave the sentry turret with that pitiful damage, but when I saw the ****ty buff they finally gave it I think part of my brain melted.

[xFCx Shade]

InvincibleHero wrote...

Turians are soldiers not engineers. They are more martial than technical. All classes cannot be top shelf or the game would be too easy. Just enjoy the variety it brings to the table.

How many games give you as many characters as BW does and people expect complete and perfect balance? LOL. None that I am aware of other than Pokemon which also has winners and losers.

Doesn't it just make you curious who produced their ships, weapons, armor, etc..

[kipac]

I can't believe what this human is saying.
And you sound like you didn't even play him, but instead just made this thread based on his powers and stats alone.

[Stardusk]

kipac wrote...

I can't believe what this human is saying.
And you sound like you didn't even play him, but instead just made this thread based on his powers and stats alone.

I did play him; so did the best player on PC (Jay_Hoxtatron); we both think he is bad.