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[KyreneZA]

Stardusk wrote...

kipac wrote...

I can't believe what this human is saying.
And you sound like you didn't even play him, but instead just made this thread based on his powers and stats alone.

I did play him; so did the best player on PC (Jay_Hoxtatron); we both think he is bad.

Yep, seems legit.

[Stardusk]

Kyrene wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

kipac wrote...

I can't believe what this human is saying.
And you sound like you didn't even play him, but instead just made this thread based on his powers and stats alone.

I did play him; so did the best player on PC (Jay_Hoxtatron); we both think he is bad.

Yep, seems legit.

OK. What exactly is so fantastic about the Turian Engineer? what can he do that no one else can? What can he do that could even be called exceptional?

[Fnord Lightbringer II]

RoZh2400 wrote...

Turret for shock/distraction (don't care about cooldown cuz it doesn't honestly die that often)
Homing Grenade a target, THEN sabotage it, so that the tech vuln will activate while homing is on its way to target. THEN riddle it with bullets.

Rinse, lather, repeat?

I tested the class on Glacier.  Threw the turret down the stairs, stayed up.  It was against the Geth on Silver.
The turret couldn't stay up longer than two seconds before it was taken down by the geth down there.

With a 200% loadout, Sabotage has a decent enough respawn time, it was about two seconds or so.  I could spam it.

Maybe my team was too good or my powers took to long to kill anything.  Relying on powers, at any rate, would have gotten me close to 0 points.  All my points came from actually shooting things.  I think throughout the whole game, the turret accumulated 3 mook kills and that's it.

I'll not play this class again any time soon.  Both Sabotage and Turret were evolved to 6 btw.  On the turret, I took damage, AP ammo and flamethrower.

The buffs to the Asari Huntress also looked respectable on paper, but the first buff is on the alternative to cloak duration, and I always go for duration.  And the second buff is on the alternative to bonus power, which is the bread and butter of this class (cloak, dark channel, warp, go back into hard cover during decloak).  So I respecced my huntress to try the damage instead.  The rationale was that you'd get around 100% damage boost on your dark channel from cloak.  Sounded good but did not play out at all for me.  I'll give it a few more games to get used to it, but basically if the DC + warp isn't part of the cloaked bonus power, I'll never actually get around to cast the warp.
Now DC is powerful, but why did I spec into warp at all then.  I felt more like an infiltrator with Dark Channel than like a caster with cloak.

[Storm-Reaver]

@Stardusk, he can be exceptionally slow.

Exceptionally slow-moving nades, exceptionally slow reloading (and that 1.5 delay. Slow.) primer, exceptionally slow killing piece of turret.
I wonder why didn't they make him an Old Turian with decreased movement speed.

Modifié par Storm-Reaver, 12 décembre 2012 - 02:50 .

[-Sxx-]

Stardusk wrote...

kipac wrote...

I can't believe what this human is saying.
And you sound like you didn't even play him, but instead just made this thread based on his powers and stats alone.

the best player on PC (Jay_Hoxtatron)

:insertrollingeyeimagehere:

Oh the name dropping.

[Stardusk]

Dest1ny wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

kipac wrote...

I can't believe what this human is saying.
And you sound like you didn't even play him, but instead just made this thread based on his powers and stats alone.

the best player on PC (Jay_Hoxtatron)

:insertrollingeyeimagehere:

Oh the name dropping.

I don't know ANYONE who can do this.

Javstepping

[Topographer]

Stardusk wrote...

Dest1ny wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

kipac wrote...

I can't believe what this human is saying.
And you sound like you didn't even play him, but instead just made this thread based on his powers and stats alone.

the best player on PC (Jay_Hoxtatron)

:insertrollingeyeimagehere:

Oh the name dropping.

I don't know ANYONE who can do this.

Javstepping

Me neither, but that's irrelevant 

[Alijah Green]

OP needs a VIDEO and XBOX forumite to show him how to build the character before he knows how to use it correctly.

must give Star Dusk credit for being consistent in one area..... always wrong

[iOnlySignIn]

Stardusk wrote...

I don't know ANYONE who can do this.

Javstepping

Sp3c7eR

[squidney2k1]

a) Geth Turret > Sentry Turret
Sabotage needs to be un-nerfed
c) Base melee damage needs to be increased (for all classes, really)

[TheCandlejack]

I'm just getting the feeling you hate every new character that comes out now.

[darkblade]

People are more simple then I expected. I really didn't think it was this bad.

[TheCandlejack]

darkblade wrote...

People are more simple then I expected. I really didn't think it was this bad.

The class isn't bad. Homing Grenades were never bad, they deal a lot of damage, decimate armor and deal burn damage when you evolve it for that. The Turret could use a slight buff, but when you evolve it for Flamethrower, it can set up Fire Explosions and you can detonate it with your Grenades. Sabotage needs a cooldown reduction, but it does set up Tech Bursts, which again, your Grenades can detonate. You need to know how to pick your battles. This class is excellent fighting Geth and Cerberus on Platinum. The only race I noticed he suffers against is Collectors. Reapers, Sabotage is less useful, but his Turret and Grenades still work. You can't rely on your Turret for damage, that's what everyone forgets, use it as a diversion.

[Kenadian]

Stardusk wrote...

TLo137 wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

I blame the GI for being OP.

Also tactical cloak is to blame as well.

Ah young one, very witty...and oddly enough, totally irrelevant.

Unless you want to actually put forth an argument for why the GI is related...come to think of it the long CD of Sabotage IS related to the FQI. But still his lack of goodness is not related to Infiltrators.

relaxxxxxxx the fella was just poking fun.

The flippancy of youth...

You're 35. Not like you're paralyzed with arthritis or bad hips there, gramps. I say this over and over to you, Stardusk. You're not old. You're not young but you're not old.

Anyways, he's not bad. The Sabotage buff on Tuesday will make him an even better character. As it stands, Sabotage with Tech Vulnerability + Split Homing Nade = good crowd control.

[TheCandlejack]

Kenadian wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

TLo137 wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

I blame the GI for being OP.

Also tactical cloak is to blame as well.

Ah young one, very witty...and oddly enough, totally irrelevant.

Unless you want to actually put forth an argument for why the GI is related...come to think of it the long CD of Sabotage IS related to the FQI. But still his lack of goodness is not related to Infiltrators.

relaxxxxxxx the fella was just poking fun.

The flippancy of youth...

You're 35. Not like you're paralyzed with arthritis or bad hips there, gramps. I say this over and over to you, Stardusk. You're not old. You're not young but you're not old.

Anyways, he's not bad. The Sabotage buff on Tuesday will make him an even better character. As it stands, Sabotage with Tech Vulnerability + Split Homing Nade = good crowd control.

Edit: Nevermind

Modifié par TheCandlejack, 12 décembre 2012 - 03:24 .

[BiowareHeph]

All grenade kits should just have a passive that says: "You get 5 extra grenades. In exchange, you can't use any gear."

[Alijah Green]

So what bad build did you make this time StarDusk.....

[xcrunr1647]

He is Turian, therefore I like him.

I just skip Sabotage and play him like a soldier.

Not optimal, but fun. For me. A nice change of pace. More fun than the Havoc without Havoc Strike, anyway. (Not a fan of the Havoc at all, regardless of the build)

[dstrawberrygirl]

I took him out against Cerberus yesterday - useful on most things, Atlas, turrets, Centurions, etc etc. But Dragoons? no guns so no backfire, ok so I guess that's what the grenades are for, because they move too fast for the turret... oh hang on there's more of them than I have grenades...

And then came the Phantoms, and nope, Sabotage did nada. With those blasters, would be nice to have a little stagger if I sabotage them.

Holding it wrong? I took Scorpion and a Hurricane to keep loadout light for higher recharge, but those two enemies alone did a heap of damage and I had a hard time getting away without jetpacking into the side of a crate. Personally I found Dragoons and Phantoms the most challenging for him on gold, which made extraction more of a challenge than I'd hoped (one pug player camped in the LZ on extraction - did not help things, but two of us made it).

I switched to Gethineer after that, and will wait til more discussion appears and advice on how best to play him before I return to the saboteur.

[Ronnie Blastoff]

Honestly whats happening is it seems someone is looking for another cheap way to play.

With a falcon I controlled every mook on the map just fine. With a falcon and all 3 of the powers Rank6. Fitness R5 for shield regen.

*Sentry Turret with rockets keeps mobs flipping and getting constant damage.
*Homming Grenades was the main source of Power Damage, used grenaded capacity V and Power Amplifier IV. Boosted damage quite well. Split grenade made for great crowd control.
*Sabotage is the "debuff" of the powers, crap damage but 50% tech power debuff "which is all he has" made it so the 3m some radius of enemies took 50% extra "Rocket and Grenade" damage.

The class requires thinking outside of point and click. Its just that simple. If you can't make it work. Maybe you should play INF or some other class that doesn't require to much effort.

I kept everything but banshees and praetorians at bay. But then thats only because they have high speed/HP. I still need time to redefine my strategy with the class and I still smashed.

[-Sxx-]

Stardusk wrote...

Dest1ny wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

kipac wrote...

I can't believe what this human is saying.
And you sound like you didn't even play him, but instead just made this thread based on his powers and stats alone.

the best player on PC (Jay_Hoxtatron)

:insertrollingeyeimagehere:

Oh the name dropping.

I don't know ANYONE who can do this.

Javstepping

Nor do I, but that doesn't necessarily class him immediately as the best ME3 PC player.

[FlowCytometry]

tired of trying to work sabo w/ him.

So just gonna give in and make him another heavy weapons user. Turian passives w/ a Harrier and grenades, rocket turret so you can just set it out in the open somewhere and forget about it. Use disruptor ammo to help take down shields/barrier and add homings on armor to save ammo. Harrier makes practically anything good, so the strength of the build isn't on the kit as much as the loadout. Bleh :/

Modifié par FlowCytometry, 12 décembre 2012 - 03:37 .

[TheCandlejack]

Dest1ny wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Dest1ny wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

kipac wrote...

I can't believe what this human is saying.
And you sound like you didn't even play him, but instead just made this thread based on his powers and stats alone.

the best player on PC (Jay_Hoxtatron)

:insertrollingeyeimagehere:

Oh the name dropping.

I don't know ANYONE who can do this.

Javstepping

Nor do I, but that doesn't necessarily class him immediately as the best ME3 PC player.

Not like it takes a pro to use a Geth Infiltrator <_<

[Happy Shepard]

And here we go again.

You don't like the power/kit/power synergy/weapon? You're a bad player.

And i have proof! I was destroying everything with this guy (unfortunately there was nobody to record my heroics) due to my genius strategy because i'm special.

Modifié par Happy Shepard, 12 décembre 2012 - 03:40 .

[Bariudol]

SpineVomit wrote...

The Sentry Turret struggles to kill mooks on Silver. This saddens me.

Odd, used it during gold reapers, killed buch of enemies in London map. Using the rocket launcher thingy. I don't know if he is bad or good, i can tell you i had a lot of fun playing with him.