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#26
Celene II

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I think they should let people choose more body types. Tall, short, fat, thin, grossly obese often mistaken for a broodmother, kate moss, young, old and in between.

I know they use different engines and graphical styles but bioware could learn a lot from Dragon Dogma for character creation

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Yeah, a slider is out of the question because of armor issues, but perhaps having three main body types to choose from: thin/slender, average (standard hero-type), and massive/brawny (which could translate as simply "fat" for a mage).

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The answer is probably not, because changing the body type changes the camera angles, which nixes cinematics.

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Foopydoopydoo wrote...

What's next? "I wanna be old"?

It doesn't make sense for the hero to be fat. They get unholy amounts of exercise, even as mages.


Uh...you make your characters look pretty wizened in most BioWare games.

That said, I don't see why they should have to accomodate different models, cinematography, animations, etc, to apply to big builds as well. 

Someone might want a very athletic body, a very skinny body, a very voluptuous body, a very muscular body, etc. Should all of these be accomodated? I'm also curious how one gets fat in the DA universe if one is not, say, a cook or a very rich noble. Most people had to work hard to get the food they had in older cultures, and it wasn't a lot--DA does not seem to be an exception.

What about one's character of being a very active, battle-ready warrior would mean they would gain a lot of weight without losing it? Why would they eat so much and exercise so little? I just can't see how their lifestyle would accomodate that. 

I don't see any reason why they shouldn't be an option, but it does seem to be a rather impractical one.

EDIT: Some people might be tempted to mention slovenly mages, but even battle mages are pretty active, especially in DAII.

Modifié par Saibh, 14 décembre 2012 - 07:50 .


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If we do get to modify weight, it will be more in a case of musculature rather than body fat: lean and wiry, to heavyweight. Actually no, not even a heavyset muscle-bound dude, they will instead 'shrink-wrap' him by removing all his body fat, so it is more lean and wiry, to body-builder lumpy.

Despite that fact that IRL, that is an indicator of muscle for show rather than function, games typically play to the power fantasy by providing their duded with large muscles and no real fat (not even a healthy level) which is why they all have shrink-wrapped six-packs, instead of the indication of two muscle columns.

And, if they WERE to provide a weight slider - or as would be less impossible, some body shape options (I doubt scaling) - it would make the already awkward clipping issues in character interaction (hugging, holding hands, etc) simply terribad.

Modifié par Karsciyin, 14 décembre 2012 - 07:47 .


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Saibh wrote...

Foopydoopydoo wrote...

What's next? "I wanna be old"?

It doesn't make sense for the hero to be fat. They get unholy amounts of exercise, even as mages.


Uh...you make your characters look pretty wizened in most BioWare games.


Except that it made little sense to do that, because every old NPC you encounter calls you "boy", "girl", or "child".

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Tangentially related: include a zoom that lets you go all the way in. I'm tired of character creators that lack this. Which is most of them, for some reason.

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krul2k wrote...

So i was wondering if at all possible i would be allowed to make my character fat?

No im not trolling im serious, i see the point of not allowing say a warrior to be fat but i dont understand not allowing me to make say my mage like that.

In all honesty im tierd of small things like this, im tierd of my hero always being the perfect speciment of watever culture they come from, its old it really is old.

I honestly cant see why my hero just cant be a wee adoreable fat mage who steals stens cookies an saves the world


Are we talking fat like
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martial artist Sammo Hung, who is nevertheless quite agile despite his tubbiness.

OR

Are we talking fat like
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this morbidly obese gentleman?

Personally I'd prefer to be able to play a character with a thick build like
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Black Whirlwind from Jade Empire than either of the two visual examples I have provided, but that's just me.

If given a choice I'd play anything from a character who is rail thin to one who is barrel-chested and has tree trunks from limbs but is muscular. I have no objection to an option existing for people who want to play fat characters, I just wouldn't use those myself in a Dragon Age game. I do have chubby characters I created for Saints Row: The Third, but in that game I'm not as concerned with verisimilitude and immersion since that game overall is already ridiculously OTT.

Modifié par The Teryn of Whatever, 14 décembre 2012 - 04:28 .


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Why is this question asked for every new Bioware game?

Beside if race options can't get in then what makes being fat so much better?

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Adugan wrote...

Chaos Lord Malek wrote...

Adugan wrote...

So how would a fatty fight? They would get tired after two hits and go searching in their packs for a twinkie.

 

With magic? Makes your whole argument irelevant. You can have 100kg weighted guy casting spells.


Sure, but what about fat warriors and rogues? I am sure sneaking around and going through tight passages might be a problem

Goemon Ishikawa would like to have a word with you.

(The Samurai Warriors version, at least.)

DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

Why is this question asked for every new Bioware game?

Beside if race options can't get in then what makes being fat so much better?

It's ALL about character customisation. The ability to make your character the way you want. We're upset about other races being out, but it's a fact that they are. No chance whatsoever of an elf or dwarf, BW EXPLICITLY said as much. So, we would at least like to have some ability to customize. 

Modifié par ShadowDragoonFTW, 14 décembre 2012 - 05:12 .


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DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

Why is this question asked for every new Bioware game?

Beside if race options can't get in then what makes being fat so much better?



never knew it was m8 i apologise, im pretty new to these forums tbh

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krul2k wrote...

In all honesty im tierd of small things like this, im tierd of my hero always being the perfect speciment of watever culture they come from, its old it really is old.


Your hero doesn't have to always be the perfect specimen of their culture. Nothing is stopping you from making them ugly/significantly not conventially attractive in the CC. o__o

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Carbon-based wrote...

krul2k wrote...

In all honesty im tierd of small things like this, im tierd of my hero always being the perfect speciment of watever culture they come from, its old it really is old.


Your hero doesn't have to always be the perfect specimen of their culture. Nothing is stopping you from making them ugly/significantly not conventially attractive in the CC. o__o



oh ive done that often lol, trolls dont have a look in when i do ugly

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Multiple body types (especially on NPCs,) would be really nice. I always thought it was silly in the Mass Effect games when you talk to some technician and he has massive rippling soldier-biceps. Also there's no reason why a mage PC couldn't be fat or scrawny.