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If you had to choose 1 ME2 character to be on the squad in ME3.

Débuté par o Ventus , déc. 12 2012 05:20

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Han Shot First
Posté 12 décembre 2012 - 11:21

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o Ventus wrote...

StayFrosty05 wrote...

I don't actually understand that train of thought....why? Miranda's Cerberus....quit or not, she is still Cerberus in the Alliance's eyes. The Normandy is now an Alliance vessel, why would they want Miranda on board? I don't believe the Alliance would trust her at all.


And? F**k the Alliance. Shepard is a Spectre, and Shepard's word still holds weight. If Miranda were to be tried for anything, Shepard could get her off pretty muh scot-free (especially if romanced, think back to Tali's trial). Nevermind that if the Alliance is willing to accept Jacob, Brynn, Gavin Archer, and Oleg Petrovsky, then they will be fine with Miranda, unless they're okay with being the galaxy's biggest group of hypocrites. As Cerberus' 2IC, Miranda could provide them with intel known onl to her and TIM. If the Alliance had known she had quit (and confirmed her legitimacy), they would be retarded not to track her down and recruit her.


Also Balak.

If Balak survives Bring Down the Sky he can be recruited as a potential ally in Mass Effect 3, in a 'enemy of my enemy is my friend' sort of deal. It isn't a happy marriage by any means, but one that is borne out of sheer necessity. The Alliance obviously isn't taking steps to arrest or kill Balak, in fact they are actively working with him.

Miranda's Ceberus ties would have been ignored by the Alliance just as Shepard, Brynn Cole and Jacob's previous Cerberus ties were ignored. She would have been pardoned for the good of the war effort.

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Posté 12 décembre 2012 - 11:22

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Miranda !

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Posté 12 décembre 2012 - 11:24

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I disagree. Miranda doesn't regret being a Cerberus Operative. She left because The Illusive Man was taking the organization on a path she did not believe to be correct, thus found herself unwilling to keep obeying his commands. But all she did in the name of Cerberus before that? I am fairly certain she believes that while there were mistakes (Jack and Akuze, for examples), overall it was the correct thing to do. Not to mention she disagrees with the Alliance's methods, and the huge amount of bureocracy and rules that would refrain her from doing what needs to be done.

If there's something about her BioWare did right in ME3, this is most definitely it IMO.


This. In hindsight, it would seem Miranda was in some denial about Cerberus (turns out they aren't morally grey pro-human advocates as much as they are the Sith Empire), especially after listening to her explanations of the husks, rachni and thorium creepers (though she does raise good points).


Indeed. And I suspect such denial comes from the feeling that she owes Cerberus-- and TIM in specific, as the organization kept Oriana safe from her father.

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Posté 12 décembre 2012 - 11:24

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Han Shot First wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

StayFrosty05 wrote...

I don't actually understand that train of thought....why? Miranda's Cerberus....quit or not, she is still Cerberus in the Alliance's eyes. The Normandy is now an Alliance vessel, why would they want Miranda on board? I don't believe the Alliance would trust her at all.


And? F**k the Alliance. Shepard is a Spectre, and Shepard's word still holds weight. If Miranda were to be tried for anything, Shepard could get her off pretty muh scot-free (especially if romanced, think back to Tali's trial). Nevermind that if the Alliance is willing to accept Jacob, Brynn, Gavin Archer, and Oleg Petrovsky, then they will be fine with Miranda, unless they're okay with being the galaxy's biggest group of hypocrites. As Cerberus' 2IC, Miranda could provide them with intel known onl to her and TIM. If the Alliance had known she had quit (and confirmed her legitimacy), they would be retarded not to track her down and recruit her.


Also Balak.

If Balak survives Bring Down the Sky he can be recruited as a potential ally in Mass Effect 3, in a 'enemy of my enemy is my friend' sort of deal. It isn't a happy marriage by any means, but one that is borne out of sheer necessity. The Alliance obviously isn't taking steps to arrest or kill Balak, in fact they are actively working with him.

Miranda's Ceberus ties would have been ignored by the Alliance just as Shepard, Brynn Cole and Jacob's previous Cerberus ties were ignored. She would have been pardoned for the good of the war effort.


Balak is great. I kept him alive. Batarians in-themselves are fun creatures (like Krogans)

Miranda: man...to have her back. or Jack, the pyschoticbiotic......but most of all: Wrex & Zaeed

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Posté 12 décembre 2012 - 11:25

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#131
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Posté 12 décembre 2012 - 11:28

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Legion!

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Posté 12 décembre 2012 - 11:31

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Morinth

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Posté 12 décembre 2012 - 11:34

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Han Shot First wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

StayFrosty05 wrote...

I don't actually understand that train of thought....why? Miranda's Cerberus....quit or not, she is still Cerberus in the Alliance's eyes. The Normandy is now an Alliance vessel, why would they want Miranda on board? I don't believe the Alliance would trust her at all.


And? F**k the Alliance. Shepard is a Spectre, and Shepard's word still holds weight. If Miranda were to be tried for anything, Shepard could get her off pretty muh scot-free (especially if romanced, think back to Tali's trial). Nevermind that if the Alliance is willing to accept Jacob, Brynn, Gavin Archer, and Oleg Petrovsky, then they will be fine with Miranda, unless they're okay with being the galaxy's biggest group of hypocrites. As Cerberus' 2IC, Miranda could provide them with intel known onl to her and TIM. If the Alliance had known she had quit (and confirmed her legitimacy), they would be retarded not to track her down and recruit her.


Also Balak.

If Balak survives Bring Down the Sky he can be recruited as a potential ally in Mass Effect 3, in a 'enemy of my enemy is my friend' sort of deal. It isn't a happy marriage by any means, but one that is borne out of sheer necessity. The Alliance obviously isn't taking steps to arrest or kill Balak, in fact they are actively working with him.

Miranda's Ceberus ties would have been ignored by the Alliance just as Shepard, Brynn Cole and Jacob's previous Cerberus ties were ignored. She would have been pardoned for the good of the war effort.


What was done with a surviving Balak drives me wild...the way he just quietly and meekly rolls over for my Shep...so much for the psycho Terrorist....<_<...I play a Paragade Shep who saved the hostages and was expecting though hoping it wouldn't happen reprisal, but I would actually prefer a reprisal over what does take place. I now avoid Aethyta like the plague in ME3....Shep was NEVER Liara's boyfriend, in fact they didn't even speak in ME1 (he didn't pick her up until after Virmire)...and so I now avoid Aethyta's retcon....I think I will be needing to avoid the C-Sec woman who gives you the mission that leads to Balak also, because I really don't know what to do with him without the game feeling ridiculous.

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David7204
Posté 12 décembre 2012 - 11:35

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That was just a bug. And I believe it was fixed.

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Posté 12 décembre 2012 - 11:36

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Legion would probably have been the best candidate, since he/it has an actual legitimate reason for coming back regardless in that Geth can be backed-up and that there's no real reason for a permanent death. Oddly, ME3 got that right in the 'Geth VI'... but totally misplayed it in the 'sacrifice' role.

It would have required extra writing (or maybe the equivalent of the Virmire Survivor), but writing for a Legion who died/was not recruited versus a Legion recruited would have allowed a single reliable (ie, 'non-killable') character with two potentially different character-lines.

Given the placement of Rannoch, if Legion had replace Tali as the recruitable character you'd probably have had a more solid design flow (only one way Legion would be perma-dead) as opposed to Tali (who has two). Legion probably could have added more to the narrative and synthetics-and-organics theme as another synthetic companion than Tali did as another organic companion, particularly if the ME2-killed/unloyal Legion played up a lot more of the 'why you should be worried' aspects of Synthetics.

Modifié par Dean_the_Young, 12 décembre 2012 - 11:37 .

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Posté 12 décembre 2012 - 11:37

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David7204 wrote...

That was just a bug. And I believe it was fixed.


The 'Boyfriend' thing?

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Posté 12 décembre 2012 - 11:38

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Yes.

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Posté 12 décembre 2012 - 11:39

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Miranda for me might allow the Cerberus plot to be sorted out. Failing that Legion

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Posté 12 décembre 2012 - 11:40

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David7204 wrote...

Yes.


Thanks for the heads up, I will take a look...I always liked Aethyta and have been bummed that I have to ignore her.

#140
clennon8
Posté 12 décembre 2012 - 11:42

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MIRANDA

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FROST4584
Posté 12 décembre 2012 - 11:43

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Miranda or Jack

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Aarkaan
Posté 13 décembre 2012 - 12:06

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Miranda & Jack; has a lot to offer for the story
Grunt; well he is like wrex jr and is better tank in comparison to Vega
Is sad that Thane was almost dead before he get stab cause he would have being my first choice

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Posté 13 décembre 2012 - 12:09

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Mordin or Kasumi

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CronoDragoon
Posté 13 décembre 2012 - 12:18

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Absolutely Miranda. Considering the abundance of Cerberus in ME3's plot, her constant presence would have been a very interesting angle. Not to mention it would have given her betrayal of Cerberus more time to develop (though satisfying, her resignation still feels a bit sudden. Wanted more development in ME2).

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The Spamming Troll
Posté 13 décembre 2012 - 12:19

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all of them.

bunch of bone heads over at bioware.

#146
Laser Jim
Posté 13 décembre 2012 - 12:21

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Miranda definitely. If not her, Jack.

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adam32867
Posté 13 décembre 2012 - 12:22

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miranda, id like to have jack but if i could only have one miranda

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Posté 13 décembre 2012 - 12:27

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Jack. She kicks ass and was the only original ME2 squaddie I actually liked :)
Also :wub: y'know?

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Posté 13 décembre 2012 - 12:30

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Miranda is the obvious answer. Former second-in-command Cerberus operative as an asset to the Alliance when Cerberus is actively fighting with Shep/Alliance and when Shep/Alliance needs all the intel and personal insight on Cerberus and TIM? Couldn't be anymore obvious.

Or so one would think

Modifié par IsaacShep, 13 décembre 2012 - 12:31 .

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Posté 13 décembre 2012 - 12:44

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From an asset mindset and best addition to improve the Normandy, Miranda. From an emotional aspect, Jack.
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