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#101
Wesley Wyndam Price

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I don't mind if it's just Oghren really. I love the surly little dwarf and you really don't get to use him for too long. Just remember that this will likely not be the last expansion for the game and there's always room to include other Origins party members in the future.



Although what looks to be Zevren is in your group at 0:37 in the trailer.

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The more I think about it, the more ok I am with the current companions being NPCs. I just don't see how the current romances could be developed further. My character ended up married to her best buddy as it was the best alternative (plus, she knows what an amazing queen she'd be), and all but married to her true love -- how on earth do you build on something that perfect without adding strife and drama? And I think ruining something that perfect would tick me off as well. As long as the romances are acknowledged and dealt with in decent ways (and NOT necessarily ended -- no reason why they would have to be), I would be happy.

#103
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It is a shame if oghren comes back though isnt it. I mean the last thing we needed was the worst companion and a dwarf of all things. I hope you can miss him out completly or ignore him.

#104
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David Gaider wrote...

Jester8183 wrote...
This.  I'm not particualarly hopeful that this is come about, but damn it we can dream.

*casts Dispel Hope*

While I'm sure it would be thrilling, having multiple companions that we would need to write up in their entirety only to allow you to have ONE of them would be a massive waste of resources. Considering that the budget for an expansion is already pretty small, it's not really feasible.

Sorry, just wearing my Expectations Management cap at the moment. Image IPB


Hello
 
I take there is changes that makes there are changes that makes DA:O graphic, animation and dialog not playable with DA:A,
if that is not the case I think a fair amount of people would be happy with a DLC type of approach.
ie a pure bolt on the existing.
 
phil

#105
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ejoslin wrote...

The more I think about it, the more ok I am with the current companions being NPCs. I just don't see how the current romances could be developed further. My character ended up married to her best buddy as it was the best alternative (plus, she knows what an amazing queen she'd be), and all but married to her true love -- how on earth do you build on something that perfect without adding strife and drama? And I think ruining something that perfect would tick me off as well. As long as the romances are acknowledged and dealt with in decent ways (and NOT necessarily ended -- no reason why they would have to be), I would be happy.

Taken right out of my mouth, I agree on this part. They have to be some acknowledged about who you romanced in the first game. Spite I must admit I would must rather see the character you romanced with fight at your side. And not just be a NPC ( aka none playable character)
But as long as they acknowledged the romance and don't just end it for some reason, it will be better than nothing. 

Modifié par Zafireria, 07 janvier 2010 - 07:10 .


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ejoslin wrote...

The more I think about it, the more ok I am with the current companions being NPCs. I just don't see how the current romances could be developed further. My character ended up married to her best buddy as it was the best alternative (plus, she knows what an amazing queen she'd be), and all but married to her true love -- how on earth do you build on something that perfect without adding strife and drama? And I think ruining something that perfect would tick me off as well. As long as the romances are acknowledged and dealt with in decent ways (and NOT necessarily ended -- no reason why they would have to be), I would be happy.


I agree with this, but I'm afraid that will be some kind of one line throughaway like what happened with Gorim from the female noble dwarf. I know that was a much shorter story, but it still worries me slightly.

#107
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David Gaider wrote...

*casts Dispel Hope*

While I'm sure it would be thrilling, having multiple companions that we would need to write up in their entirety only to allow you to have ONE of them would be a massive waste of resources. Considering that the budget for an expansion is already pretty small, it's not really feasible.

Sorry, just wearing my Expectations Management cap at the moment. Image IPB


*Resist Dispel Hope*

Mr. Gaider, can you tell us how many possible returing old companion we can recruit?

More than one I hope?

#108
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Some people say Morrigan... but I don't believe that. It's too early for Morrigan to return. I'm sure she will return, but not yet. Same for some others maybe.

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Now that Dispel Hope has been cast....

--the old favorite might not be a companion, it could be anyone people liked, but I agree that it is likely Oghren.
--If only one is returning, it won't be one of the romance optional characters from Origins, because the wrath of the folks whose favorites didn't return would be terrible to behold.
--Just because a favorite companion doesn't return as playable in this expansion doesn't mean they never will be in future.
--DLC will continue to feature beloved characters, so it's not so bad, especially since the new characters are bound to be just as compelling.

Modifié par errant_knight, 09 janvier 2010 - 03:03 .


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You people are surprised at why bioware would do this? Okay Neverwinter 1 OC may not have worked for everyone but in its first expansion, The PC, Aribeth and Party were ejected.



You may not even see Morrigan appear again. It happened once, it can happen again.


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SinYang wrote...

You people are surprised at why bioware would do this? Okay Neverwinter 1 OC may not have worked for everyone but in its first expansion, The PC, Aribeth and Party were ejected.

You may not even see Morrigan appear again. It happened once, it can happen again.


Crushing hopes and destroying dreams.... All in a days work, huh? ;)  Y'might want to get a kick in while you've got 'em down. More efficient that way.

Modifié par errant_knight, 09 janvier 2010 - 03:47 .


#112
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Nope, im one of the people too, i want the companions to stay as much anyone here.

But in reality, the Warden is returning in the Awakening expansion *without* 6/7 of his/her party (cameos arent same). Do we really believe in a future expansion or DA2 somehow Morrigan will reappear? AND the Warden again? it does seem very unlikely at this stage.

Sure she could appear again but without this warden or Alistair, anything said in Origins is meaningless. No emotional ties to the past remain for your characters.

This leaves "fan service" in the form of Aribeth's addition to Hordes of the underdark.

Modifié par SinYang, 09 janvier 2010 - 03:13 .


#113
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ok so lets get this clear first, like all bioware games after you beat it depending on what ending you get and what you they ALWAYS nd i mean ALWAYS tell you little snips of what happens after just in case they never make another game in the universe at all. like in the end if you are king and all it says "you ruled for years and years and the land was in peace until you died at an old age and blah blah blah" now keep in mind Awakening is probably months after maybe a year or two not like 39 years later lol. NOW i think personally it will be Sandal or Morrigan. after all Morrigan is the biggest part of DAO and has a pivotel role (did i spell that right) now im not a fan boy of Morgy but it would only make sense, however i do hope they have option in the beginning to pick what happend like "did you kill the archdemon or did allistar" or "did you preformt he dark ritual or not" or "did you save the anvil of the void or destroy it" otherwise it will be a story already set in stone of what bioware think is the right ending and go with it and for people out there who havent beaten it a million times will be a bit confused. i also recomend going and reading the books that are coming out and that have come out so as not to be so confused becaus "the architect" is in awakening. and i sodding dislike ogrhen sometimes lol

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I'll probably pick the expansion up either way, but I confess, the news about most of the old party NPCs being unavailable for the new quest does push this from a "day of release!" to "I'll wait for spoilers".

#115
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I agree with Mousestalker, though Teagan and Sandal wouldn't hurt either. I don't really care if Morrigan returns or not (but it's most likely she will). And gah, please don't let it be Anorah or Isolde (I'll jump fo a bridge if it is) Image IPB

Modifié par Nuclear_Pony, 09 janvier 2010 - 06:32 .


#116
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Nuclear_Pony wrote...

I agree with Mousestalker, though Teagan and Sandal wouldn't hurt either. I don't really care if Morrigan returns or not (but it's most likely she will). And gah, please don't let it be Anorah or Isolde (I'll jump fo a bridge if it is) Image IPB


Anyone who made Anora queen will probably see her, and who knows about Eamon and his family, but there's no way Anora or isolde would be playable. manipulative backstabber or **** who's cruel to bastard children aren't playable skills. ;)

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My worst fear is being strapped with Morrigan for another moment. I really do not care whoe it is so long as it is not Morrigan, especially if i turned down her ritual there is no reason for her to be in anything past the final battle, except to make the i love Morrigan people wet. The returning companion should be related to the romance options period, since this makes the most sence in that that person would more than likely be by the PC's side after the final battle if the PC survived.



JUST FOR THE LOVE OF GOD LEAVE MORRIGAN WHERE SHE IS, Obscurity.



Asai

#118
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Im just glad Alistair is going to be in it,yay ^^ He is my hubby king.As long as I get some diologue with him I will be ok.I'm going to miss my old party members but I dont reject having a whole new party.I think its going to be quite interesting.

#119
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i was wondering how many of the folks here who say that they don't care if Morrigan returns or not actually did the ritual. i mean, regardless of whether you like her or not, she has your kid. i think my choices were either I die, Alistair die, or do the ritual, (i gutted Loghain and i enjoyed it) and since Alistair was my best friend so the ritual seemed to be the best option.

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Hello

Splitz6860 all the people that care about having an old companion are like that. and that the problem because that is at the very least 4 potential old companion to come back. And we do care about how it ended and to different degree we would like to continue with the old crew and the crux is that each of ou individual choice fro the one will be distributed majoritarily across the 4 potential.



so that is 4 time 3 lines of evolution, (hate,friendly,love) granted there is a probably a bit of reusability of what there is in DA:O but there is still DA:A event related specific that will need to be created.



May be it would be worth seeing if the can generate enough money for DA:A missing old companion DLC?

phil


#121
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Maybe the first quest of the expansion will be getting the assistance of an old companion and you'll get to pick which one.

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Well personally I'd like to see Oghren as recruitable. However I will find it strange if it was impossible to get cameos for certain party members, afterall in certain playthroughs it would make no sense for Zevran and Dog not to be around.

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Personally i'd love to see Flemeth in a new shell coming since (spoiler)we technically didnt destroy her soul
ul (/Spoiler), someone have to have a sharp tounge in the party :D

But my dibs are on Alistair, who during a late dinner with the arl of denerim goes to for a drink at the gnawed noble, for thus in secrecy visiting the grey warden HQs, Because killing darkspawn is more fun than ruling countries. :P

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Suzene wrote...

I'll probably pick the expansion up either way, but I confess, the news about most of the old party NPCs being unavailable for the new quest does push this from a "day of release!" to "I'll wait for spoilers".


I think I'll join you in that boat.

#125
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At first, when I heard that there would be 1 companion from Origins I was going "zomg better be Alistair!". But now that I think about it more I'll be happy as long as there's some interaction with him ... considering in my first play through my char married him.



Also, I think I read somewhere that Awakening is supposed to take place a few months after the ending of Origins. Now depending on how you read "a few months" ... then it can't be Morrigan because if you did the ritual there's no way you're going to be running around killing darkspawn with a heavily pregnant lady. Nor do I see Morrigan be willing to just leave her newborn godbaby somewhere to go killing darkspawn with you. She's not going to let that kid out of her sight. And you're not going to run around killing darkspawn with a newborn baby.



So ... at this point I don't really care who they're bringing back, I'm getting the expansion anyway.