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The Geth Piss Spitter needs a buff, and not just a pity one


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TheKillerAngel

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Video: Geth ****** Squirter vs. Tempest SMG.

If you don't get what weapon I'm talking about, it's the Geth Plasma Submachinegun.

I recently finished the 200k points on this using my Turian Soldier. It's such an absurdly horrible weapon. Even though I topped the scoreboard both times, it was a hellishly awful experience. I found that my time using the Avenger to get 140k points was more enjoyable, because at least the avenger does more damage. Based on the math, the GPSMG is probably the lowest DPS rare weapon in the game, barring the Krysae.

With the same mods and consumables, there are common and uncommon weapons that outdamage it.


What should the GPSMG do? I think it should be a shield stripper. Where the Acolyte is a burst damage shield stripper, the GPSMG should be a sustained shield stripper that excels at getting rid of the protections on larger enemies, such as primes and atlases. To that end, I think it should have a high ramp up modifier to shields and barriers. Something like 5x damage to shields and barriers. Then it might be marginally useful.

Modifié par TheKillerAngel, 13 décembre 2012 - 06:45 .


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BeardyMcGoo

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Ever since the ULM fix, the GPSMG isn't even useful for swarmer cleanup anymore.

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GriM_AoD

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The fact that I knew Geth ****** spitter meant GPSMG agrees with you

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TheKillerAngel

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THE GETH ****** SPITTER: NEEDS MOAR LUVVIN

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Equi_nox

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The title brought me here.
Im here for lolz

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Red Panda

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I killed a praetorian on platinum with it with no consumables. I kited it for twenty minutes.


Clearly, it's the very definition of a superb weapon, right?

(NOTE: This is absolute sarcasm. Please do not be offended by my post in any way, as none was meant.)

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It spits ******.

Nuff said.

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Malokai The Hallowed

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It could definitely use a buff. However, I was surprised when tossing it on a Destroyer with all the proper weapon damage/SMG damage buffs/gears how much damage it managed to do. Not that it's a great gun mind you, but if anyone else still needs those points, that's a good way to get em.

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TheKillerAngel

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Equi_nox wrote...

The title brought me here.
Im here for lolz


Should I have instead called it the Geth ****** Squirter?

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Equi_nox

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I think of the gpsmg as more of a bronze or silver weapon i used the weapon so much on silver moved up to gold not much use for it anymore tbh but maybe it needs a buff or two

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My first reaction on seeing the title - "What the hell is wrong with the Geth Plasma Shotgun?!"

I didn't even remember there was another GPS. It's a cool design, cool gun, nifty concept - but I never use it! More reasons to remember it would be brilliant.

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ToaOrka

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I thought you meant the pulse rifle and was about to slap you.

Still though, that thing is hellishly powerful on characters with Adrenaline Rush and AP ammo IV.

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ToaOrka wrote...

Still though, that thing is hellishly powerful on characters with Adrenaline Rush and AP ammo IV.

As do 90% of weapons in this game. :whistle:

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I should design an app that makes BSN hotlist entries by KillerAngel for me, since I keep being impressed with his campaign to improve weapon and class fairness.

That said, I agree. It should be significantly better than it is.

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ToaOrka wrote...

I thought you meant the pulse rifle and was about to slap you.

Still though, that thing is hellishly powerful on characters with Adrenaline Rush and AP ammo IV.


I can take an Avenger with an AR rail 4, amp 5, AP 4 and it will outperform a Geth ****** Spitter with the equivalent mods and consumables.

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TheKillerAngel wrote...

If you don't get what weapon I'm talking about, it's the Geth Plasma Submachinegun.

I recently finished the 200k points on this using my Turian Soldier. It's such an absurdly horrible weapon. Even though I topped the scoreboard both times, it was a hellishly awful experience. I found that my time using the Avenger to get 140k points was more enjoyable, because at least the avenger does more damage. Based on the math, the GPSMG is probably the lowest DPS rare weapon in the game, barring the Krysae.

With the same mods and consumables, there are common and uncommon weapons that outdamage it.


What should the GPSMG do? I think it should be a shield stripper. Where the Acolyte is a burst damage shield stripper, the GPSMG should be a sustained shield stripper that excels at getting rid of the protections on larger enemies, such as primes and atlases. To that end, I think it should have a high ramp up modifier to shields and barriers. Something like 5x damage to shields and barriers. Then it might be marginally useful.


i use it to clean up swarmers

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Void_Macabre

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I love the feel and mechanics of the gun, but its damage is so severely lacking it kills it, with marksmen this gun is almost a laser. but its damage just murders any possible use for it.

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I vote for SMG heavy barrel...except that would probably break the Hurricane wouldn't it. ::Sigh::

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I can't even argue for the effectiveness of it when I swear it did almost no damage to this Atlas yesterday. It's no wonder none of the Geth even use this weapon. The Krysae's not that bad though; it can actually kill things.

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dude the gsmg is awesome! just gotta be done with right classes. its not about any kind of damage, just unbelieveable amounts of amo. throw a heat sink and a stability mod on there and its can be a replacement AR for a power character.

i put it on my quarian soldier and ran it with marksman. it was amazing (on gold)

good luck

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I put it on a Destroyer for the SMG achievement, since he doesn't really need to stop shooting to do a power or anything. It wasn't terrible, but I was very glad when I was done with it.

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Yeah, I'd started a thread about this a little while ago too (though with much more hyperbole). That fairly pointless ramp-up time just kills this thing's utility.

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Hmm... I have used it about a month ago, and it was pretty decent (about a month ago...). Headshots only, I killed regular troops really fast on silver. Zero effectiveness against armor of course, but for the rest it was really nice.
But if all of you are saying this gun sucks now... What really ****** me off is the fact that the Geth SMG and Rifle doesn't have any advantage against shields, it's just 1.0. So there is no real reason to use them instead of other guns.

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Two words: Geth Engineer.

Of course, it could definitely use a buff; on that I agree. It needs the modifier for sure. Still, it's useful on some kits as a sidearm, and isn't worse than the GPR.

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TheKillerAngel wrote...

If you don't get what weapon I'm talking about, it's the Geth Plasma Submachinegun.

I recently finished the 200k points on this using my Turian Soldier. It's such an absurdly horrible weapon. Even though I topped the scoreboard both times, it was a hellishly awful experience. I found that my time using the Avenger to get 140k points was more enjoyable, because at least the avenger does more damage. Based on the math, the GPSMG is probably the lowest DPS rare weapon in the game, barring the Krysae.

With the same mods and consumables, there are common and uncommon weapons that outdamage it.


What should the GPSMG do? I think it should be a shield stripper. Where the Acolyte is a burst damage shield stripper, the GPSMG should be a sustained shield stripper that excels at getting rid of the protections on larger enemies, such as primes and atlases. To that end, I think it should have a high ramp up modifier to shields and barriers. Something like 5x damage to shields and barriers. Then it might be marginally useful.


Your suggestion is frankly boring. Every geth weapon is a "shield stripper." Pretty sure based on the asswhooping they gave the Alliance at Armstrong that's there are plenty of geth weapons designed to do other things. The GPR is primarily just that, a rapid fire shield stripper with decent headshot damage. The geth arsenal needs an anti armor weapon or a DoT option, basically something only a patch or content update will bring.

The only real right turn option that hasn't been explored is a heavy force weapon designed to stagger hard at max throughput, but I'm pretty sure you're never going to see that in an SMG.

Modifié par Xaijin, 13 décembre 2012 - 03:02 .