First FemShep Playthrough--Who to Romance?
#76
Posté 17 décembre 2012 - 10:02
#77
Posté 17 décembre 2012 - 10:09
#78
Posté 19 décembre 2012 - 07:53
Kaidan I've always found hard to pass up on in ME1, it's just that good for me. The tension in ME2 and the resolve in ME3 have been handled masterfully I thought, but the ME3 romance is a bit lacking in the end. Not to say it's not good, it really is, especially seeing some of the others. But compared to some others and compared to the potential it had, a tad disappointing to me. (Not to say it would be to anyone in any shape or form)
Now Garrus, even though he's unavailable in ME1, awkward as a sort of 'buddy'-mance in ME2, this fully matures in ME3 into something I now call my favorite romance. It's gorgeous really is, just thinking about it makes me want to replay it. Only downside is it's only available as a continuity romance, so you HAVE to pick it up in ME2, where-as Kai and Liara can be (re-)romanced in ME3.
If you'd only ever do one romance, I seriously suggest you pick Garrus. If you can look past the whole 'scaly-dinosaur' ordeal, he is absolutely fantastic in the long run.
Modifié par Ottemis, 19 décembre 2012 - 07:57 .
#79
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Posté 19 décembre 2012 - 08:23
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How exactly can one be "too cool" for romance? I don't understand.uzivatel wrote...
I would say Liara. Kadien is too boring and Garrus is too cool.
#80
Posté 19 décembre 2012 - 10:11
Shekarian all the way baby. The only reason I played through ME3 for three times is the Shekarian pairing. It was phenomenal.
The reason why I feel Garrus is the best pairing are as follows:
1. He's Garrus
2. In terms of interactions, he is somewhat awkward. He isn't good at saying the "right things", not too suave, which is also somewhat contrasting against his stories of conquests and all. (You know, the whole testing reach and flexibility thing.) Personally, I think that's cute.
3. He's been through a lot post-ME1, and was placed in a somewhat similar position as Shepard when he was Archangel. Difficult decisions had to be made, alongside deaths of fellow squad members. He holds himself accountable for the death of his squadmates, and approached it with hatred and vengeance, whereas my Shepard remains a paragon.
With that said, Garrus' experiences are very similar to Shepard's, but they ended up in different places emotionally. It clearly shows you that these are two different individuals, which makes their story even more compelling.
4. Garrus is a turian and Shepard is a human. The relationship would be deemed taboo by pretty much everyone, which makes it even more exciting to me.
5. Garrus is there for Shepard every step of the way. He is fiercely loyal to Shepard. You know Garrus will have Shepard's back. Kaidan, on the other hand, had some doubts over Shepard in ME2. Hmmm...
6. Garrus is in a very dark place at the beginning of ME2. My paragon Shepard swayed him away to a brighter spot. In that sense, it feels like Garrus is dependent on Shepard to serve as his conscience. In return, Shepard needs Garrus' more pessimistic outlook to understand that she can't save everyone. (This is reflected in ME3) In other words, Shepard is the yin to Garrus' yang.
7. It brings out the sensitive side of Garrus, who really wants the relationship to go right (he said it himself).
Even as a guy, I've teared up quite a number of times watching the story unfold. It has pushed me to the world of fan fiction to cope with the ending. You may not get much out of him in ME1, but it all makes sense. The story is very well developed. Wait till you get to the scenes on earth. God, those were heartbreaking to watch.
#81
Posté 22 décembre 2012 - 12:55
#82
Posté 22 décembre 2012 - 03:05
#83
Posté 22 décembre 2012 - 04:22
The deluxe one.
#84
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Posté 22 décembre 2012 - 02:59
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JasonDaPsycho wrote...
I'll be straight up with you. I have never played through the game as either a Kaidanmancer or a Liaramancer. I tried to go through the game with a BroShep who is romancing Liara, but I just could not bring myself to do so.
Shekarian all the way baby. The only reason I played through ME3 for three times is the Shekarian pairing. It was phenomenal.
The reason why I feel Garrus is the best pairing are as follows:
1. He's Garrus
2. In terms of interactions, he is somewhat awkward. He isn't good at saying the "right things", not too suave, which is also somewhat contrasting against his stories of conquests and all. (You know, the whole testing reach and flexibility thing.) Personally, I think that's cute.
3. He's been through a lot post-ME1, and was placed in a somewhat similar position as Shepard when he was Archangel. Difficult decisions had to be made, alongside deaths of fellow squad members. He holds himself accountable for the death of his squadmates, and approached it with hatred and vengeance, whereas my Shepard remains a paragon.
With that said, Garrus' experiences are very similar to Shepard's, but they ended up in different places emotionally. It clearly shows you that these are two different individuals, which makes their story even more compelling.
4. Garrus is a turian and Shepard is a human. The relationship would be deemed taboo by pretty much everyone, which makes it even more exciting to me.
5. Garrus is there for Shepard every step of the way. He is fiercely loyal to Shepard. You know Garrus will have Shepard's back. Kaidan, on the other hand, had some doubts over Shepard in ME2. Hmmm...
6. Garrus is in a very dark place at the beginning of ME2. My paragon Shepard swayed him away to a brighter spot. In that sense, it feels like Garrus is dependent on Shepard to serve as his conscience. In return, Shepard needs Garrus' more pessimistic outlook to understand that she can't save everyone. (This is reflected in ME3) In other words, Shepard is the yin to Garrus' yang.
7. It brings out the sensitive side of Garrus, who really wants the relationship to go right (he said it himself).
Even as a guy, I've teared up quite a number of times watching the story unfold. It has pushed me to the world of fan fiction to cope with the ending. You may not get much out of him in ME1, but it all makes sense. The story is very well developed. Wait till you get to the scenes on earth. God, those were heartbreaking to watch.
I've always wanted to do a FemShep playthrough, and I always wondered who I wanted to romance between Garrus and Kaidan. And thanks to you, I'm convinced.
#85
Posté 22 décembre 2012 - 09:35
Clearly the logical choice.Zondergrod wrote...
No one. Borrow Tali's Nerve-Stim.
The deluxe one.
#86
Posté 22 décembre 2012 - 09:44
although my mshep goes for ash
#87
Posté 22 décembre 2012 - 09:51
see my sig
#88
Posté 22 décembre 2012 - 10:12
Garrus: Probably the second best option in the long run. He's the only male romance option other than Thane that Shepard doesn't directly flirt with or that doesn't directly flirt with her, so it makes the romance feel more legitmate. They also have significant history and a very real comraderie, which makes their hook up in ME2 authentic and the tender moments in ME3 worth the time. The whole levo/dextro thing is an obstacle, though, but it tends to be glossed over more so than DudeShep/Tali due to Garrus' obviously stronger immune system.
Kaidan: Personally, I've never managed to get over Kaidan assuming my Shepard was interested him simply because she was kind to him after the Eden Prime Beacon incident. I've never liked that the only way to kill his interest once he's expressed it is to say, "This was just a battlefield thing." Um...no, no it wasn't. It was him assuming it was a battlefield thing. My Shepard was never interested. This colors my perception of the Kaidan romance a bit. However, pushing that aside, he's a decent guy and stayed loyal in his heart to Shepard even through the business with Cerberus, so there's nothing wrong with taking a chance on him.
Thane: I've never understood the fascination with Thane. I can't imagine being intimate with him could possibly be comfortable (Mordin mentions skin irritation in ME2), he's dying, and in some ways, you're either going to be a surrogate for his murdered wife or living in her shadow. He will cling to you as a reason to remain alive when he'd all but given up. He's also going to die, there's no getting around that, so your time with him will be brief. Shepard knows this going in, but I've never seen the attraction and neither has any of my Sheps. Play for the tragedy romance only, in my opinion.
Jacob: A hard-fought romance in ME2 pays off in spades until ME3 rolls around and leaves you twisting in the wind. While I absolutely hate how FemShep flirts with him from the get-go, it's rewarding to finally get him to open up to you and let his guard down. Just be prepared to have your heart broken in ME3.
Traynor: About as interesting as a female Kaidan, in my opinion. Sihe's simply not that interesting once you find out more about her. And, let's be brutally honest, there is something off about romancing a direct subordinate even as the end of the world is taking place. This never felt as a big a problem with Kaidan/Ashley in ME1 since you were technically a Council Spectre and the fact that you worked for the Council and not the Alliance side-stepped the issue. However, of all the romance options available to you, Traynor does appear to be the most stable and down to earth; the kind of person Shepard probably needs to keep her grounded.
Chambers: Shepard shows interest, and she's immediately flirty and all over her. I don't really know what to make of that. Some might find it welcoming. As a former Alliance officer and Council Spectre reluctantly working with Cerberus, having a Cerberus employee essentially throwing herself at me from the moment we met made my Shepard suspicious and cautious whenever she dealt with her. That she goes behind your back is a bit of a problem for me, even if she comes clean about it in ME3. I think I would feel more betrayed about her actions with Cerberus had I romanced her, whereas I would have expected it if she were simply the Cerberus yeoman who happened to be flirty.
#89
Posté 22 décembre 2012 - 10:17
#90
Posté 22 décembre 2012 - 10:29
I thought the Jacob romance was the most realistic. Shepard is gone for what, six months or more? It makes sense that he would move on. He couldn't even contact Shepard during that time.Arisugawa wrote...
Jacob: A hard-fought romance in ME2 pays off in spades until ME3 rolls around and leaves you twisting in the wind. While I absolutely hate how FemShep flirts with him from the get-go, it's rewarding to finally get him to open up to you and let his guard down. Just be prepared to have your heart broken in ME3.
Modifié par EpicBoot2daFace, 22 décembre 2012 - 10:47 .
#91
Posté 22 décembre 2012 - 10:56
EpicBoot2daFace wrote...
I thought the Jacob romance was the most realistic. Shepard is gone for what, six months or more? It makes sense that he would move on. He couldn't even contact Shepard during that time.Arisugawa wrote...
Jacob: A hard-fought romance in ME2 pays off in spades until ME3 rolls around and leaves you twisting in the wind. While I absolutely hate how FemShep flirts with him from the get-go, it's rewarding to finally get him to open up to you and let his guard down. Just be prepared to have your heart broken in ME3.
Call me romantic, but I'd like to think if I was detained by the military, and my lover knew this, that I would not be so quickly dismissed from his or her heart.
#92
Posté 22 décembre 2012 - 10:56
Kaiden turns to be out to be a jerk in ME2 and doesn't even offer to help you with the collectors! I would of chosen Tali but she only prefers the male Shepard. Yet she is the second squad member of my squad. You know I love how she hates Miranda that boshet!
#93
Posté 22 décembre 2012 - 11:07
We all would like to think that, but things happen. I thought it made the universe more realistic. Jacob seems like the kinda guy who would do that.Arisugawa wrote...
EpicBoot2daFace wrote...
I thought the Jacob romance was the most realistic. Shepard is gone for what, six months or more? It makes sense that he would move on. He couldn't even contact Shepard during that time.Arisugawa wrote...
Jacob: A hard-fought romance in ME2 pays off in spades until ME3 rolls around and leaves you twisting in the wind. While I absolutely hate how FemShep flirts with him from the get-go, it's rewarding to finally get him to open up to you and let his guard down. Just be prepared to have your heart broken in ME3.
Call me romantic, but I'd like to think if I was detained by the military, and my lover knew this, that I would not be so quickly dismissed from his or her heart.
#94
Posté 22 décembre 2012 - 11:12
EpicBoot2daFace wrote...
We all would like to think that, but things happen. I thought it made the universe more realistic. Jacob seems like the kinda guy who would do that.Arisugawa wrote...
EpicBoot2daFace wrote...
I thought the Jacob romance was the most realistic. Shepard is gone for what, six months or more? It makes sense that he would move on. He couldn't even contact Shepard during that time.Arisugawa wrote...
Jacob: A hard-fought romance in ME2 pays off in spades until ME3 rolls around and leaves you twisting in the wind. While I absolutely hate how FemShep flirts with him from the get-go, it's rewarding to finally get him to open up to you and let his guard down. Just be prepared to have your heart broken in ME3.
Call me romantic, but I'd like to think if I was detained by the military, and my lover knew this, that I would not be so quickly dismissed from his or her heart.
Where as I expected him to be better than that. He had a somewhat poor example for a father figure, and it's a major facet of his character to be a better man than the example he had growing up. For someone who was very guarded towards Shepard initially, he seemed to open up to Brynn fairly quick.
It would have been more realistic to have Kaidan/Ashley move on after 2 years and Shepard's apparent death.
Modifié par Arisugawa, 22 décembre 2012 - 11:13 .
#95
Posté 22 décembre 2012 - 11:30
Kaidan/Ashley did move on. It was only after Horizon that they started thinking about Shepard again, and even then it wasn't like thing went back to normal. Even in ME3 it was tense until later on in the game. I believe every relationship was tested throughout the series.Arisugawa wrote...
EpicBoot2daFace wrote...
We all would like to think that, but things happen. I thought it made the universe more realistic. Jacob seems like the kinda guy who would do that.Arisugawa wrote...
EpicBoot2daFace wrote...
I thought the Jacob romance was the most realistic. Shepard is gone for what, six months or more? It makes sense that he would move on. He couldn't even contact Shepard during that time.Arisugawa wrote...
Jacob: A hard-fought romance in ME2 pays off in spades until ME3 rolls around and leaves you twisting in the wind. While I absolutely hate how FemShep flirts with him from the get-go, it's rewarding to finally get him to open up to you and let his guard down. Just be prepared to have your heart broken in ME3.
Call me romantic, but I'd like to think if I was detained by the military, and my lover knew this, that I would not be so quickly dismissed from his or her heart.
Where as I expected him to be better than that. He had a somewhat poor example for a father figure, and it's a major facet of his character to be a better man than the example he had growing up. For someone who was very guarded towards Shepard initially, he seemed to open up to Brynn fairly quick.
It would have been more realistic to have Kaidan/Ashley move on after 2 years and Shepard's apparent death.
People who romanced Thane knew what they were getting into. I'm sure they were hoping for a miracle cure, but that would have ruined it and it would have been cheap.
The other relationships weren't as tough as those two (Jacob and Thane), but they had their own trials. The only one I was disappointed with was Jack's romance. I thought it was handled really well in ME2 but poorly handled in ME3.
Modifié par EpicBoot2daFace, 22 décembre 2012 - 11:31 .
#96
Posté 22 décembre 2012 - 11:33
EpicBoot2daFace wrote...
Kaidan/Ashley did move on. It was only after Horizon that they started thinking about Shepard again, and even then it wasn't like thing went back to normal. Even in ME3 it was tense until later on in the game. I believe every relationship was tested throughout the series.
People who romanced Thane knew what they were getting into. I'm sure they were hoping for a miracle cure, but that would have ruined it and it would have been cheap.
The other relationships weren't as tough as those two (Jacob and Thane), but they had their own trials. The only one I was disappointed with was Jack's romance. I thought it was handled really well in ME2 but poorly handled in ME3.
Kaidan/Ashley didn't move on. Neither one of them started a new relationship, started a family, dated, etc. The dynamics of the relationship altered as both of them mourned, and then become angry, but they remained faithful to Shepard.
#97
Posté 22 décembre 2012 - 11:42
I don't know if you've ever lost a loved one, but "moving on" doesn't necessarily mean you start dating other people. You can remain single and still say that you've moved on. Shepard showing up on Horizon changed that. Even if Kaidan/Ashley had found someone else, I'm sure they would have still had feelings for Shepard.Arisugawa wrote...
EpicBoot2daFace wrote...
Kaidan/Ashley did move on. It was only after Horizon that they started thinking about Shepard again, and even then it wasn't like thing went back to normal. Even in ME3 it was tense until later on in the game. I believe every relationship was tested throughout the series.
People who romanced Thane knew what they were getting into. I'm sure they were hoping for a miracle cure, but that would have ruined it and it would have been cheap.
The other relationships weren't as tough as those two (Jacob and Thane), but they had their own trials. The only one I was disappointed with was Jack's romance. I thought it was handled really well in ME2 but poorly handled in ME3.
Kaidan/Ashley didn't move on. Neither one of them started a new relationship, started a family, dated, etc. The dynamics of the relationship altered as both of them mourned, and then become angry, but they remained faithful to Shepard.
Have you ever seen the movie Cast Away with Tom Hanks? He's gone for like ten years and he finally comes back only to find that his wife had moved on and married someone else. But she still loves him and was willing to give up her marriage to be with him again.
#98
Posté 22 décembre 2012 - 11:47
EpicBoot2daFace wrote...
I don't know if you've ever lost a loved one, but "moving on" doesn't necessarily mean you start dating other people. You can remain single and still say that you've moved on. Shepard showing up on Horizon changed that. Even if Kaidan/Ashley had found someone else, I'm sure they would have still had feelings for Shepard.Arisugawa wrote...
EpicBoot2daFace wrote...
Kaidan/Ashley did move on. It was only after Horizon that they started thinking about Shepard again, and even then it wasn't like thing went back to normal. Even in ME3 it was tense until later on in the game. I believe every relationship was tested throughout the series.
People who romanced Thane knew what they were getting into. I'm sure they were hoping for a miracle cure, but that would have ruined it and it would have been cheap.
The other relationships weren't as tough as those two (Jacob and Thane), but they had their own trials. The only one I was disappointed with was Jack's romance. I thought it was handled really well in ME2 but poorly handled in ME3.
Kaidan/Ashley didn't move on. Neither one of them started a new relationship, started a family, dated, etc. The dynamics of the relationship altered as both of them mourned, and then become angry, but they remained faithful to Shepard.
Have you ever seen the movie Cast Away with Tom Hanks? He's gone for like ten years and he finally comes back only to find that his wife had moved on and married someone else. But she still loves him and was willing to give up her marriage to be with him again.
I don't know if I would agree with your interpretion of Cast Away...I seem to recall both of them recognizing that although they loved each other, leaving her new family for him wasn't possible.
Anyhoo, this is getting off topic now. I'm going to just end my portion of it by saying I think it would be more realistic for the Virmire Survivor to have started over after 2 years than it would be for Jacob to abandon a Shepard he knew was still alive and merely in custody within six months.
Now, we can, of course, debate what the fact that he didn't wait for her says about his character, but that's a topic for another thread. I merely expected him to be a more faithful man than that.
Modifié par Arisugawa, 22 décembre 2012 - 11:48 .
#99
Posté 23 décembre 2012 - 12:46
On the other hand, only by romancing Thane you would see how badly he was treated in ME3
I made an experiment with Kaidan once and it turns out his romance content is quite good and it looks very natural. Honestly, I can't really get over Garrus' teeth and even though he's a great friend, and his romance in ME3 is really moving and sweet, I can't force myself to even try out this romance with one of my own Shepards. So go get Kaidan or Thane, but remember not to import the game to ME3 if you decide to choose Thane.
Modifié par Vlk3, 23 décembre 2012 - 12:47 .
#100
Posté 23 décembre 2012 - 01:07
How? You knew he was going to die in ME2. He tells you this when you first meet him.Vlk3 wrote...
It's sad that even though my favorite romance option in this game is Thane, I can't really advise you to choose him in your playthrough. The romance is beautiful and well written in ME2, but completely ruined in ME3. The game looses it's integrity, and it's hard to feel connected to your Shepard after she acts as if nothing has happened after her LI died.
On the other hand, only by romancing Thane you would see how badly he was treated in ME3
I made an experiment with Kaidan once and it turns out his romance content is quite good and it looks very natural. Honestly, I can't really get over Garrus' teeth and even though he's a great friend, and his romance in ME3 is really moving and sweet, I can't force myself to even try out this romance with one of my own Shepards. So go get Kaidan or Thane, but remember not to import the game to ME3 if you decide to choose Thane.





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