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Operation: ALAMO (Dec. 14 - 16)


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#226
Sable Dove

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morph4037 wrote...

RevanREK wrote...

lol I got the impression last operation people where complaining it was too easy... now people think its too hard?

thats the exact same impression I got from the first couple of pages. :mellow:


It's more an issue of 
1) People don't like having to rely on random players in order to complete their goal. I'm not sure anyone likes when they fail because of somthing they had no control over, and,
2) People hate Condor. It probably got picked because it's one of the least-played maps. Perhaps they should take the hint and improve the map, rather than simply forcing players to play on Condor. 

No one thinks it's too hard. The problem is that whether or not we complete the challenge depends on other players more than on oneself. Plus, if one person gets downed once, you've basically wasted 15-20 minutes. So it's more a matter of reliability. Player can achieve the challenge far more reliably on lower difficulties, and more reliably alone than with randoms.

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Bhatair wrote...

What's the operation called again? For some reason I can't remember. I'm also making really bad jokes.


So... I don't get it.
Could someone explain it?

#228
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Clips7 wrote...

Ok...i'm trying to understand why everybody is stressin' over surviving 5 waves?...unless i'm missing something....Image IPB...sounds easy to me...


Because it doesn't actually happen all that often in pug games.
It's not just you who has to survive, it's everyone.

I'll definitely be soloing this.

#229
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Thankfully, at least this operation is taking place on a weekend when I'm not working. I can usually sneak in a couple of games and get my commendation pack regardless, but not having to worry about a phone call or emergency dragging me away is nice.

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Sable Dove wrote...
It's more an issue of 
1) People don't like having to rely on random players in order to complete their goal. I'm not sure anyone likes when they fail because of somthing they had no control over, and,

People whined and whined with the other easier "get x points with y" when it was all individual and saying "omg this blows it's so easy".

Now it's like they try to do something that involves more than the previous stuff and now people whine becuase they cant do it by themselves...It's a no win scenario. 

Sable Dove wrote...
2) People hate Condor. It probably got picked because it's one of the least-played maps. Perhaps they should take the hint and improve the map, rather than simply forcing players to play on Condor. 

No one thinks it's too hard. The problem is that whether or not we complete the challenge depends on other players more than on oneself. Plus, if one person gets downed once, you've basically wasted 15-20 minutes. So it's more a matter of reliability. Player can achieve the challenge far more reliably on lower difficulties, and more reliably alone than with randoms.

I can see your point but it goes back to them whining that earlier challenges that could be solo'd were sooo easy...

Idk, this is just one of those times where it's just a matter of carefull what you wish for. 

But I digress, has anyone bothered to ask a mod if this really was a "team/squad goal" and not a typo like some of the other OPS we had?

Modifié par morph4037, 14 décembre 2012 - 06:55 .


#231
RainbowDazed

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Your tears taste lovely, please keep on crying over the weekend challenge, BSN.

I'll give PUG-games a go, if I can't find a good crew, I'll solo.

#232
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Solo/Condor/Reapers/Bronze
Turian Ghost Infiltrator
Warfighter package
Armor Piercing Rounds
Cyclonic Modulator IV
Assault Rifle Amp III
Cerberus Harrier

Don't really want to attempt this more than once.

#233
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Well i am still needing about 75 waves on Condor Gold for Map Mastery challenge. So i might
be willing to try a few matches with randoms to see how it goes. It all else fails theres
always Bronze solo.

#234
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hate map. bugs. need fixed.
challenge easy. krogan said.

Modifié par koschwarz74, 14 décembre 2012 - 07:19 .


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Podboq wrote...

Bhatair wrote...

What's the operation called again? For some reason I can't remember. I'm also making really bad jokes.


So... I don't get it.
Could someone explain it?


"Remember the Alamo".

It's an American saying.

#236
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staindgrey wrote...

Podboq wrote...

Bhatair wrote...

What's the operation called again? For some reason I can't remember. I'm also making really bad jokes.


So... I don't get it.
Could someone explain it?


"Remember the Alamo".

It's an American saying.


I see. Alamo has no meaning to me here in australia.

#237
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Podboq wrote...

I see. Alamo has no meaning to me here in australia.


I'm from Europe, and I didn't get the joke either. But still, the Alamo battle was a pretty awesome event. Just under 200 guys held their own to a superior force of 1800 Mexicans for almost 2 weeks, and it included Davy Crockett and James Bowie (the knife guy). Captain Kirrahe would have been proud.:wizard:


#238
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It's Solo time! :wizard: 

#239
frustratemyself

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Hmmm time to dig out the javelin again.

#240
StormAn1mal

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omg. what's your problem? this is done in few minutes.

#241
Rusty Ey3

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Im kinda good in this map but i hope there will be no trolls who kills themselfs in round 4....

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Podboq wrote...

Bhatair wrote...

What's the operation called again? For some reason I can't remember. I'm also making really bad jokes.


So... I don't get it.
Could someone explain it?


its a pretty stupid joke
"Remember the Alamo!" 
Its the quote from the Battle of the Alamo.

Now if only I could get in a match without a team member dieing on wave 4-5 (mostly intentional) or ending up with a badly glitches match. Almost made it through wave 4 when all of da sudden. Carbine refused to fire because... It jammed? 

Modifié par wolfstanus, 14 décembre 2012 - 08:26 .


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suspect they picked "the glitchiest map in the game" in order to farm stats on how/why its glitching tbh...

Needless to say, will be joining the ranks of "Bronze/Solo" players, as I don't think I've ever played with a pug (my only alternative) that managed to gain even a 3 waves survived medal as someone always drops somewhere :S

#244
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I really thought the Alamo challenge would involve a massively-extended extraction wave (say, five minutes) with lots of extra enemies converging on the extraction zone.

#245
DamonD7

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Will try to get this on a PUG. Or three.

#246
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OK, Condor is the buggiest of all maps. If a pug is unlucky somebody will be killed in the first second of the match because of the invisible enemy bug.

Congrats, Bioware.

Instead of fixing this bug you create a challange for this map. Nice.

Every competent player will solo this challange on Bronze. Good luck for beginners.

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ndw542 wrote...

Why does everyone think this will be hard? This only requires HALF of a bronze solo. If you can't stay alive as a an Infiltrator, Kroguard, etc. against five waves of weak enemies who can't sync-kill, you don't deserve a Comm Pack. Even if you had to burn an Ops Pack per wave, you'd still have one left over by the time you were done.

This!

Commendation Packs should be earned and not just given out kind of automatically.
The last challenge (75k points with ANY assault rifle) didn't deserve the name challenge at all.

Yes, Condor is ugly. Yes, the ammo crates on Condor are the worst, if not bugged (try them on Platinum, if you want to really go crazy). But being alone on the map you shouldn't have any problems with the ammo boxes.

And it is doable. Probably not with the average team of randoms dropping all over the places, but hey, 5 Waves on Bronze aren't that hard to survive in a solo with the right character and a little skill. If you can't manage to solo it, try it with PUGs. But at least it's a challenge and it's still a lot easier than the "Full Extraction on Gold" challenge we had some months ago.

Modifié par Tronar, 14 décembre 2012 - 10:04 .


#248
wolfstanus

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I'm a derp. Ignore me.

Modifié par wolfstanus, 14 décembre 2012 - 10:25 .


#249
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Dosent start for another 7 and a half hours...

#250
wolfstanus

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Oh I'm a derp.

I blame being tired. At least I know I can do it.