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[Steelcan]

Dr_Extrem wrote...

well .. thessia is fighting as well .. the problem is, that thessia consists of city states and every city has its own defense force. they have no real united military.

in mass effect 1, the codex (military doctrine) states, that only 1% of all humans serve in the military and that this is the lowest rate among all citadel species.

there are potentially more asari soldiers out there, than human. sadly, asari are mostly commandos, who are not very usefull in a stand up fight. but they are perfect partisan fighters.

thessia is not doomed ... at least not any more than palavan or earth or any other settlement. earth is fighting a partisan war against the reapers .. the turians are just buying time with the lifes of their soldiers. its pointless resistance.

"We've lost contact with Thessia, the planet has gone dark"

5min later I'm talking to someone on Earth....

[ForThessia]

Steelcan wrote...
Yeah the ships.  Congratulations, if they are as crappy as their infantry we might be better off without them.  Adn besides that is their ships, the planet is irrlevent by then.

Shepard doesn't joke. about it.  But the option should have existed.  And you actually can make light of condemning the krogan, and you can joke about killing the asari.

The human soldiers looked pretty crappy to me. As did their ships that got destroyed every 5 seconds. 

I never condemned the Krogan. Please tell me how Shepard made light of their imminent doom?

[The Night Mammoth]

Dr_Extrem wrote...

spirosz wrote...

J. Reezy wrote...

spirosz wrote...

It's funny how an Asari finds the key to the war and we end up going to the Asari homeworld to find more "proof". 

Why couldn't the Yahg be the key, or Pyjak? 

Bioware sure loves dem Asari.  

WHAT PART OF BLUE LESBIAN ALIENS DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?! D:<

EVERYONE LOVES BLUE LESBIAN ALIENS!

It's funny that most of the people who roleplay FemShep/Liara are male.  Just sayin' 

hey .. why not? .. what is better than one beautiful woman? .. two beautiful women.

What's better than two beautiful women? 

One of them being a hot, blue alien.

[Dr_Extrem]

Steelcan wrote...

Dr_Extrem wrote...

well .. thessia is fighting as well .. the problem is, that thessia consists of city states and every city has its own defense force. they have no real united military.

in mass effect 1, the codex (military doctrine) states, that only 1% of all humans serve in the military and that this is the lowest rate among all citadel species.

there are potentially more asari soldiers out there, than human. sadly, asari are mostly commandos, who are not very usefull in a stand up fight. but they are perfect partisan fighters.

thessia is not doomed ... at least not any more than palavan or earth or any other settlement. earth is fighting a partisan war against the reapers .. the turians are just buying time with the lifes of their soldiers. its pointless resistance.

"We've lost contact with Thessia, the planet has gone dark"

5min later I'm talking to someone on Earth....

qed ...

reapers cut com buoyies. that is their standard tactic. earth went dark as well .. exept for the qeds on the alliance ships. thats one reason allers is so eager to join. palavan is not dark, because the turians are still fighting and are holding the reapers at bay.

just at the beginning of the game, the operators in the council room state, that lunar and the fleets have gone dark ... the reapers cut communication.

[Steelcan]

ForThessia wrote...

Steelcan wrote...
Yeah the ships.  Congratulations, if they are as crappy as their infantry we might be better off without them.  Adn besides that is their ships, the planet is irrlevent by then.

Shepard doesn't joke. about it.  But the option should have existed.  And you actually can make light of condemning the krogan, and you can joke about killing the rachni.

The human soldiers looked pretty crappy to me. As did their ships that got destroyed every 5 seconds. 

I never condemned the Krogan. Please tell me how Shepard made light of their imminent doom?

on Priority earth we see human soldiers laying waste to entire reaper untis, we see asari get vaporized,a nd on Thessia we see them get butchered.

And if you sabotage the genophage cure Shepard's diaolgue afterwards is..... disturbing.

[Dr_Extrem]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Dr_Extrem wrote...

spirosz wrote...

J. Reezy wrote...

spirosz wrote...

It's funny how an Asari finds the key to the war and we end up going to the Asari homeworld to find more "proof". 

Why couldn't the Yahg be the key, or Pyjak? 

Bioware sure loves dem Asari.  

WHAT PART OF BLUE LESBIAN ALIENS DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?! D:<

EVERYONE LOVES BLUE LESBIAN ALIENS!

It's funny that most of the people who roleplay FemShep/Liara are male.  Just sayin' 

hey .. why not? .. what is better than one beautiful woman? .. two beautiful women.

What's better than two beautiful women? 

One of them being a hot, blue alien.

bonus !!!

[Steelcan]

Dr_Extrem wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Dr_Extrem wrote...

well .. thessia is fighting as well .. the problem is, that thessia consists of city states and every city has its own defense force. they have no real united military.

in mass effect 1, the codex (military doctrine) states, that only 1% of all humans serve in the military and that this is the lowest rate among all citadel species.

there are potentially more asari soldiers out there, than human. sadly, asari are mostly commandos, who are not very usefull in a stand up fight. but they are perfect partisan fighters.

thessia is not doomed ... at least not any more than palavan or earth or any other settlement. earth is fighting a partisan war against the reapers .. the turians are just buying time with the lifes of their soldiers. its pointless resistance.

"We've lost contact with Thessia, the planet has gone dark"

5min later I'm talking to someone on Earth....

qed ...

reapers cut com buoyies. that is their standard tactic. earth went dark as well .. exept for the qeds on the alliance ships. thats one reason allers is so eager to join. palavan is not dark, because the turians are still fighting and are holding the reapers at bay.

just at the beginning of the game, the operators in the council room state, that lunar and the fleets have gone dark ... the reapers cut communication.

"LOST CONTACT"  implies no communiation, at all.

[Dr_Extrem]

Steelcan wrote...

Dr_Extrem wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Dr_Extrem wrote...

well .. thessia is fighting as well .. the problem is, that thessia consists of city states and every city has its own defense force. they have no real united military.

in mass effect 1, the codex (military doctrine) states, that only 1% of all humans serve in the military and that this is the lowest rate among all citadel species.

there are potentially more asari soldiers out there, than human. sadly, asari are mostly commandos, who are not very usefull in a stand up fight. but they are perfect partisan fighters.

thessia is not doomed ... at least not any more than palavan or earth or any other settlement. earth is fighting a partisan war against the reapers .. the turians are just buying time with the lifes of their soldiers. its pointless resistance.

"We've lost contact with Thessia, the planet has gone dark"

5min later I'm talking to someone on Earth....

qed ...

reapers cut com buoyies. that is their standard tactic. earth went dark as well .. exept for the qeds on the alliance ships. thats one reason allers is so eager to join. palavan is not dark, because the turians are still fighting and are holding the reapers at bay.

just at the beginning of the game, the operators in the council room state, that lunar and the fleets have gone dark ... the reapers cut communication.

"LOST CONTACT"  implies no communiation, at all.

yet the epilogue shows otherwise ... there are still asari fighting and it takes decades to harvest an entire homeworld. 

[ForThessia]

Steelcan wrote...

ForThessia wrote...

Steelcan wrote...
Yeah the ships.  Congratulations, if they are as crappy as their infantry we might be better off without them.  Adn besides that is their ships, the planet is irrlevent by then.

Shepard doesn't joke. about it.  But the option should have existed.  And you actually can make light of condemning the krogan, and you can joke about killing the rachni.

The human soldiers looked pretty crappy to me. As did their ships that got destroyed every 5 seconds. 

I never condemned the Krogan. Please tell me how Shepard made light of their imminent doom?

on Priority earth we see human soldiers laying waste to entire reaper untis, we see asari get vaporized,a nd on Thessia we see them get butchered.

And if you sabotage the genophage cure Shepard's diaolgue afterwards is..... disturbing.

You see several Human soldiers get wiped out on Earth and in the prologue. There were far more Humans getting killed on earth than the what, 2 Asari who we saw? We didn't see enough on Earth to know which aliens were helping and how much success they were having.


and in that case, I probably wouldn't approve of it either. 

[chemiclord]

J. Reezy wrote...

chemiclord wrote...

J. Reezy wrote...

Why is this even a question?

Because some players roleplayed "their Shepard" as a heartless malevolent sociopath, it would seem.

Something tells me you're a paragon player...

Not particularly.

If you'll notice, even in Bioware's hatchet job, Shepard isn't pissed off that the asari are in deep trouble specifically.  S/he's seen THAT sort of thing before.  S/he's pissed off that Joker was trying to make light of it.  S/he'd have been equally pissed off had Joker made a snark about Rannoch after watching the Quarians getting blown out of the sky.

The only way Shepard would have found Joker's quip something to laugh about is if s/he was completely lacking any sense of human empathy.  If that was how you were roleplaying him/her... that has nothing to do with the paragon/renegade meter.

Modifié par chemiclord, 14 décembre 2012 - 01:08 .

[o Ventus]

spirosz wrote...

ForThessia wrote...

It doesn't matter if he was correct or not. My point was that it was inappropriate and therefore he deserved the reaction that Shepard gave him. Shepard was never completly ours. He had a determined personality that we got to mold. 

Inappropriate is subjective, therefore that reaction is OOC for me and many others. 

Nope. Shepard wasn't your character.

/rolls eyes

[BonFire5]

That reminds me, where the hell was Hackett when all this was going down? How was he not hunted by Reapers? Does he have ties to whoever created the Normandies?

[Wulfram]

On the one hand, Joker's joke is way over the line. Racist joke about millions of dead civillians, not classy.

On the other, control over your character is good.

On the third hand, Shepard really doesn't have to be all that pissed off, IIRC. A slight snap under tension that's patched up before the conversation ends shouldn't be all that much of a big deal.

[ForThessia]

o Ventus wrote...

spirosz wrote...

ForThessia wrote...

It doesn't matter if he was correct or not. My point was that it was inappropriate and therefore he deserved the reaction that Shepard gave him. Shepard was never completly ours. He had a determined personality that we got to mold. 

Inappropriate is subjective, therefore that reaction is OOC for me and many others. 

Nope. Shepard wasn't your character.

/rolls eyes

How mature of you. Did you decide to make Shepard a soldier? Did you decide to make him a Spectre in ME1? Did you steer him to Cerberus in ME2? No, you did not. He was given a selected path and base personality.

[Astralify]

moater boat wrote...

Because ME3 was not a role playing game.

That's the best answer so far.

[SeptimusMagistos]

Wulfram wrote...

On the third hand, Shepard really doesn't have to be all that pissed off, IIRC. A slight snap under tension that's patched up before the conversation ends shouldn't be all that much of a big deal.

I just don't see what's lost if I'm the one who gets to decide how Shepard reacts to the joke.

[o Ventus]

ForThessia wrote...

How mature of you. Did you decide to make Shepard a soldier? Did you decide to make him a Spectre in ME1? Did you steer him to Cerberus in ME2? No, you did not. He was given a selected path and base personality.

No, I chose to make Shepard a Sentinel.

Also, working with Cerberus has literally nothing to do with Shepard's personality. You can agree or disagree with them as much as you please. If he was given a selected path and base personality, there wouldn't be the dialogue wheel, nor would there be multiple backgrounds.

Really, what are you failing to understand?

[ObserverStatus]

Draining Dragon wrote...
Why was I forced to act so out of character?
The biggest example is Joker's comment after Thessia. I actually found it very funny, and I wanted to say so. Well, Bioware says "Nope, you need to be a hardass."

Same reason there's a dialogue wheel with poorly paraphrased options instead of a regular tree: it enhances the cinematic experience.

[4stringwizard]

Dr_Extrem wrote...

spirosz wrote...

J. Reezy wrote...

spirosz wrote...

It's funny how an Asari finds the key to the war and we end up going to the Asari homeworld to find more "proof". 

Why couldn't the Yahg be the key, or Pyjak? 

Bioware sure loves dem Asari.  

WHAT PART OF BLUE LESBIAN ALIENS DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?! D:<

EVERYONE LOVES BLUE LESBIAN ALIENS!

It's funny that most of the people who roleplay FemShep/Liara are male.  Just sayin' 

hey .. why not? .. what is better than one beautiful woman? .. two beautiful women.

Who knew?  A fan service race was successful in dishing out fan service.  

[spirosz]

ForThessia wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

spirosz wrote...

ForThessia wrote...

It doesn't matter if he was correct or not. My point was that it was inappropriate and therefore he deserved the reaction that Shepard gave him. Shepard was never completly ours. He had a determined personality that we got to mold. 

Inappropriate is subjective, therefore that reaction is OOC for me and many others. 

Nope. Shepard wasn't your character.

/rolls eyes

How mature of you. Did you decide to make Shepard a soldier? Did you decide to make him a Spectre in ME1? Did you steer him to Cerberus in ME2? No, you did not. He was given a selected path and base personality.

Why, yes I did.  

[Sebby]

Shepard was never "your" character. Anyone who played a human nationalist Shepard in ME1 was aware of this reality when it was all retconned into oblivion in ME2.

[o Ventus]

Seboist wrote...

Shepard was never "your" character. Anyone who played a human nationalist Shepard in ME1 was aware of this reality when it was all retconned into oblivion in ME2.

You're aware that you can actually do this in ME2, right? Nevermind that in ME2 there isn't any number of appropriate times to act like Shepard came from Terra Nova.

[4stringwizard]

Seboist wrote...

Shepard was never "your" character. Anyone who played a human nationalist Shepard in ME1 was aware of this reality when it was all retconned into oblivion in ME2.

What game did you play?  There were still chances for Shepard to show his "human centric" side in ME2.  There may have just appeared to be less of it because it wasn't as central to the story.  

[Sebby]

o Ventus wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Shepard was never "your" character. Anyone who played a human nationalist Shepard in ME1 was aware of this reality when it was all retconned into oblivion in ME2.

You're aware that you can actually do this in ME2, right? Nevermind that in ME2 there isn't any number of appropriate times to act like Shepard came from Terra Nova.

No you can't, even keeping the CB isn't presented as having anything to do with human dominance(that's TIM's intention not Shepard's).

[o Ventus]

Seboist wrote...

No you can't, even keeping the CB isn't presented as having anything to do with human dominance(that's TIM's intention not Shepard's).

Human nationalism is different than human supremacy. Which is it? Never in any of the 3 games is Shepard ever a human supremacist, but in at least 2 of the 3 games Shepard CAN be a human nationalist.