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[Mummy22kids]

Abraham_uk wrote...

If the protagonist's mother was voiced by the female equivilant of Liam Neelson, then I'm game!

Betty White?

[Plaintiff]

Abraham_uk wrote...
Have any of you briefly played that section in Fallout 3 where you have to travel a long distance with your father?
Imagine if that guy was voiced by Liam Neelson.

You don't have to imagine it. James, the father of the protagonist in Fallout 3 is voiced by Liam Neeson.

[Abraham_uk]

Battlebloodmage wrote...

Parents in Bioware games often die horribly. Be careful what you wish for, people.

Or they end up being completly absent for the entire trilogy, aside for a couple meetings in the first game.
Hannah Shepard I'm looking at you.

[The Spirit of Dance]

brushyourteeth wrote...

supremebloodwolf wrote...

First off, I think a mother companion isn't a bad idea

Second, why can't i just say that I'd like to see a father companion more than a mother one without being accused of being sexist. When I saw someone else suggest a father companion and suggested things like the proud father or the disappointed father(something i could relate to in my teens) I found that 'personally' more interesting than anything I've seen anyone suggest about a mother one. Plus I wanna have fun pissing off a father companion.

Edit: You could still do the disappointed mother but thats not cliche enough.

I'm not really trying to push this (in fact this will be my last post about it) but what could a father figure contribute to the story that a mother couldn't? Bear in mind that 

1.) in the DA world, males and females are equal and nave no hard-and-fast gender roles. That means that the dialogue written for the character would work just as well for a mother as it would for a father.

2.) While the father/son relationship might seem like a good enough reason on its own, not every player chooses to roll a male protagonist.

So with that in mind, what would make a father better, or in your words "more memorable?"

There's a subtle sexism in that. Just letting you know, because you didn't seem to see it in your comments the first time, or I think you'd feel bad about it (you seem like a decent person).

Yeah, no reason to drag this conversation out much further when the topic is about mothers. So, I'll just say what I think after giving it more thought then leave this topic alone as well.

Looking at it now I kind of see how my past comments can be viewed as sexist, actually it's glaringly obvious, especially the first one . Sorry, I guess I kind of got caught up in how most parents are viewed in media. The mother that would love her child no matter how said child turned out and the father that wants his child to grow up to become more like him. I kind of wanted to do something like do a playthrough where I don't quite match up with my father's expectations then do one where I live up to every single one of them.

After giving it some thought there's really no reason why the same or some other sort of negative relationship can't be done with a mother companion.  After all dragon age is a series where you can have friendly and non friendly relationships with your team. For some reason the thought of having a rivalry with your mom never crossed my mind (until i did that edit about it not being cliche enough but I didn't give it much thought when I did that).

[frankf43]

As long as my mum is Morrigan.

And yes I know this is not going to happen.

I actually have no problem with some of the party members being family members, but it isn't high on my wish list either.

[vortex216]

If we're going to have origins, how will that work? They can't ALL have badass fighting adventurer moms.

[Uccio]

Wat?

[ScotGaymer]

Mummy22kids wrote...

Abraham_uk wrote...

If the protagonist's mother was voiced by the female equivilant of Liam Neelson, then I'm game!

Betty White?

Liam Neeson is a terrible voice actor IMO.

Though if Betty White was any good at VA, she would be awesome as protag mum.

Modifié par FitScotGaymer, 14 décembre 2012 - 07:51 .

[Abraham_uk]

Plaintiff wrote...

Abraham_uk wrote...
Have any of you briefly played that section in Fallout 3 where you have to travel a long distance with your father?
Imagine if that guy was voiced by Liam Neelson.

You don't have to imagine it. James, the father of the protagonist in Fallout 3 is voiced by Liam Neeson.

Umm. Palm to my face.
I feel silly now.

[Mummy22kids]

FitScotGaymer wrote...

Mummy22kids wrote...

Abraham_uk wrote...

If the protagonist's mother was voiced by the female equivilant of Liam Neelson, then I'm game!

Betty White?

Liam Neeson is a terrible voice actor IMO.

Though if Betty White was any good at VA, she would be awesome as protag mum.

Have you seen The Lorax?  She did very well in that.

[Todd23]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Cue "hero's mum for LI".

It is inevitable.

... You can at least let me build up to it.  

[WardenWade]

If Adaia had somehow been able to survive in Origins my Warden would have gladly adventured with her...similar to how Alistair gladly traveled with and took orders from Duncan.  He would have happily adventured with Cyrion, too, for that matter

[TNT1991]

brushyourteeth wrote...

2.) While the father/son relationship might seem like a good enough reason on its own, not every player chooses to roll a male protagonist.

So with that in mind, what would make a father better, or in your words "more memorable?"

 



You know, there is such a thing as a daughter/father relationship that can create as much as a strong bond as a son/father relationship?  >.> 

And on "which parent has a more impact" subject, it would be the father to me. Not because I'm trying to be 'sexist' but because I grew up with a loving and caring dad, while my mother didn't give two ***** about me and my sisters (even now). So whenever I play a game with a mother in it and she's a *****, I can't help but rage. 
I've never experience any good and memoriable mothers (in any media) to make me go "yeah, I fell for you mom! "  like the way Fallout 3 did with the father/daughter relationship (made me tear up about what had happened to him, and instantly became one of my favorite gaming experiences of all time) . 

So, if DA3 did include a mother companion that was "caring" and actually made me support her and care for her (like FO3 did with the dad), instead of making me wish I was an orphan in the game (like DA2's mom, etc.), then I would be on board with this. 

My two cents, anyway.  

Modifié par TNT1991, 14 décembre 2012 - 09:26 .

[brushyourteeth]

supremebloodwolf wrote...

Sorry

Hey, we cool. 

TNT1991 wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

2.) While the father/son relationship might seem like a good enough reason on its own, not every player chooses to roll a male protagonist.

So with that in mind, what would make a father better, or in your words "more memorable?"

You know, there is such a thing as a daughter/father relationship that can create as much as a strong bond as a son/father relationship? >.>

And on "which parent has a more impact" subject, it would be the father to me. Not because I'm trying to be 'sexist' but because I grew up with a loving and caring dad, while my mother didn't give two ***** about me and my sisters (even now). So whenever I play a game with a mother in it and she's a *****, I can't help but rage.
I've never experience any good and memoriable mothers (in any media) to make me go "yeah, I fell for you mom! " like the way Fallout 3 did with the father/daughter relationship (made me tear up about what had happened to him, and instantly became one of my favorite gaming experiences of all time) .

So, if DA3 did include a mother companion that was "caring" and actually made me support her and care for her (like FO3 did with the dad), instead of making me wish I was an orphan in the game (like DA2's mom, etc.), then I would be on board with this.

My two cents, anyway.

That doesn't make you sexist -- that makes your preference for a dad figure understandable, but not universal.

I grew up with an alcoholic father, and my mom was my best friend and hero until she died when I was 14. But none of that will/should have any effect on which parent should be featured in a Dragon Age game.

The conversation was really about why having dad instead of a mom would be considered *better*. The fact that it would be more relatable for x percent of the population is kind of a given. But I doubt Bioware's going to crunch numbers on which parent is most beloved by their fans and then choose to only tell that story...

Which leaves us with the fact that one isn't better than the other. Because no one will should be saying "aargh, I'm so mad that I have such a cool mom that adventures with me!!!" 

[brushyourteeth]

Mummy22kids wrote...

Abraham_uk wrote...

If the protagonist's mother was voiced by the female equivilant of Liam Neelson, then I'm game!

Betty White?

Dame Judi Dench? 

[legbamel]

Mummy22kids wrote...

Abraham_uk wrote...
If the protagonist's mother was voiced by the female equivilant of Liam Neelson, then I'm game!

Betty White?

Sweet Maker, yes, but only if she gets to help write her own dialogue.

For the record, I think it's time we had an awesome dad in DA, not because I think women should stay home and wash dishes while birthin' the babies.  I just think we had Wynne as a surrogate mom and Leandra as a self-centered mom while they teased us with the ghost of the awesome Malcolm.  I want uber-Dad if I have to have a parent at all.  Or Betty White.  Or Better White voicing my dad, because that would be all sorts of awesomely weird.

[Urzon]

*PC and LI scene is fading to black*

Only to be interrupted by....

"I HOPE YOU'RE USING PROTECTION!"

[ReallyRue]

I'd rather have a dad. Or optional - like the Beth/Carver thing but with less dying. You could choose whether to take mum or dad or neither.

[Abraham_uk]

ReallyRue wrote...

I'd rather have a dad. Or optional - like the Beth/Carver thing but with less dying. You could choose whether to take mum or dad or neither.

Imagine having the Kaidan/Ashley situation, but with your mum and dad.

I wouldn't know who to pick.

[Todd23]

Abraham_uk wrote...

ReallyRue wrote...

I'd rather have a dad. Or optional - like the Beth/Carver thing but with less dying. You could choose whether to take mum or dad or neither.

Imagine having the Kaidan/Ashley situation, but with your mum and dad.

I wouldn't know who to pick.

The most useful.

[Arppis]

Would be funny. I'd like this.

"Remember dear, to wear your socks..."
"MOM! I'M TRYING TO DO A BATTLE PLAN HERE! MAKER!"

Modifié par Arppis, 16 décembre 2012 - 06:56 .