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[Digital Supremacy]

Well i don't see how anyone can complain about a games price, expansion or not. They are selling us the game/expansion for much less then it took to make it. They have to pay god knows how much employees in programming, graphic design, level design, character design, etc etc hourly of prices wages that could be $30 an hour, if not more! Multiply that by how much hours it will take to get the game/expansion working and ready for sale. Your talking about thousands upon thousands of dollars just paying the employees to make the game over said time period. They probably spend thousands of dollars making this expansion, and you just have to pay $40 bucks for it, or would you rather pay the price it took to create it? no? well stop complaining, I think $40 bucks is more then a reasonable trade off for a few hours of entertainment.

[HolyRomanCousinConsort]

GithCheater wrote...

Is there a reason that that the PC version of the OC ($50) is $10 dollars less than the console versions ($60), but the expansion pack costs the same amount ($40) regardless of version (PC or console).

Doesn't Bioware / EA have substantial extra costs for "licensing" from either Microsoft (X-Box) or Sony (PS-3)?

Why charge less when you can pocket the difference?

[Terwox_]

*sniff sniff* I smell EA on the pricetag.

[Schneidend]

Terwox_ wrote...

*sniff sniff* I smell EA on the pricetag.

Hmm. Odd, I had thought it the pungent odor of people who don't understand how running a business works. This forum is rife with the aroma.

[Subion1985]

I would like it to be cheaper to but it doesnt bug me. I ended up paying $45 for my game. The same for a copy that was a christmas gift. I played for two days before I ended up trading my copy in for $30 and purchasing the CE.

I will definitly buy it. Yes it could be cheaper or longer than the "Rumored 15 hours" but heres how I look at it.

Last time I went to a theater to see a movie with a friend it was $8 per a ticket plus another 10 for for a drink and a popcorn.That is $18 dollars for a one 1 1/2 hour movie. Someimes you can get a three hour movie but it is usualy none I like.

To buy a movie new when it comes to dvd is usally $20-$25 depending on the title. sometimes on sale for first week between $15-20. Again only 1 1/2 - 3 hours a movie. Blu-rays are usually an extra $5-$10.

So taking all of that into consideration, It's usually on average $20-25 for up to 3 hours of movie. 15+ hours of gameplay (not to mention all of the replayability with decisions/choices/interactions it is a good deal  for $29.99 PC $39.99 other IMO.

Modifié par Subion1985, 06 janvier 2010 - 07:40 .

[elys]

DVD are definitively overpriced in my opinion and since a long time. Seriously it's one domain where the movie industry directly promoted piracy upon itself with such pricing practice.

One day one international major movie publisher (I forgot which one, it was few years ago) announced that it could sell movie DVD about 2~3$ in China and still make benefices with such price ( with DVD paper packaging, not plastic box). When you hear that and watch the price of DVD in USA or Europe you really feel yourself as a poor milkcow.

Modifié par elys, 06 janvier 2010 - 08:09 .

[Cryo84]

Since when is gaming charged by the hour?

[elys]

Maybe since publishers promote their game using "X hours of gameplay" as marketting argument

Modifié par elys, 06 janvier 2010 - 08:31 .

[MerinTB]

elys wrote...

DVD are definitively overpriced in my opinion and since a long time. Seriously it's one domain where the movie industry directly promoted piracy upon itself with such pricing practice.

One day one international major movie publisher (I forgot which one, it was few years ago) announced that it could sell movie DVD about 2~3$ in China and still make benefices with such price ( with DVD paper packaging, not plastic box). When you hear that and watch the price of DVD in USA or Europe you really feel yourself as a poor milkcow.

DVD's are overpriced?

You do know that prior to DVD's, VHS Movies cost more in dollar amounts not even adjusting for inflation?  When a new movie came out on VHS it was $20-40, and that was after it'd be a rental for awhile.  If you wanted to buy most movies when they were available as rentals you'd be paying $60-120 per tape.  Seriously.  I worked video rental back in the VHS days and watched the switch to DVD's - a big push to make DVDs accepted by consumers quicker was releasing them for cheap - rental stores got them for $20-30 a movie, a savings of $40-90 per movie, and consumers could buy the DVDs at the same time for the same price when rental stores got the movies.  It was shortly after this that VHS tape prices plummetted, but prior to DVD's catching on VHS tapes were expensive.

I remember my first DVD purchases were boxed sets of anime series, because Record of Lodoss Wars was $120 or some such on VHS but the DVD box set was $60.  Heck, I remember having to decide between Subbed or Dubbed Anime, with the Subbed (most fans, including me, preferred subbed as the dubbing at the time was pretty bad) costing more - a difference of $30 for dubbed versus $40 for subbed.

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Also, the Movie Industry has been making all the right moves to fight bootlegging of films.  They have drastically reduced the time from theater to video, they have opened up their libraries of older movies to be purchased even at ridiculously low prices (you can get a lot of movies on DVD for like $2 brand new), and they finally started releasing tv shows, even short-lived ones, in affordable box sets (prior to DVDs, early days of the Web, you'd be lucky to find a video tape consisting of the "best of" episodes of a tv series, like 3 episodes for like $40.)

We have digital distribution online, very quick release from theater to video, cheap rentals, and very low prices (again, $2-5 for many, many movies on DVD.)

I'm not an anti- file-sharing guy, but honestly the movie industry has made better strides than, oh, the music industry or print industry to change with the times (though the music industry was dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st century.)

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Honestly, some people have no sense of history of anything when they talk about some subjects.

Modifié par MerinTB, 06 janvier 2010 - 09:59 .

[Finiffa]

Why does the OP feel the need to start another thread on the this? There is already a thread on the price, does he need more attention for himself?

[Fleb]

If it bothers you so much then wait untill its on offer somewhere, or untill the price drops generally.

[elys]

MerinTB wrote...

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Honestly, some people have no sense of history of anything when they talk about some subjects.

I said DVD but I think the same about the VHS prices at the time. And when I talked about 2~3$ DVD in China, It is concerning all new international movies, the one that just got released, and not "economic collection" movies. And still the publisher do benefits on that.

Good luck findind a all new released movie DVD at that price on our sides. (excepted maybe some crappy movies).

Now I'm not waiting to see brand new movies at 3$ in USA or in Europe due to taxes and related cost, nor I care about the plastic box which only end up using lot of space and increasing the price. They should keep plastic box for collector editions.

But the fact is that new DVD movies could be sold at a lot lower price with still the publisher making benefits.
Now I agree there has been improvement in pricing in the last years, but that's still not it.

Lets take an example with big titles such as Avatar which will surely sells a lot of DVD (the more you sell, the less the production cost)

Price on Amazon.fr = 20 euros ( $ 28.7) for the DVD version
Let's say I take of up to  75% of the price for the distribution, tax and whatsover. That's still 5 euro ($ 7.1)  for the publisher which is a lot when you compare it to same movie in China for 3$ including all costs and still doing benefits).
I should mention also that successful movies are already doing lot of benefits just with the theater income, and that DVD release are purely bonuses that comes after.

So clearly the western market is filled with milkcows for the movie industry.
They are so greedy even authors had to go on strike a while back to get a better piece of the cake

Modifié par elys, 06 janvier 2010 - 11:07 .

[FlintlockJazz]

I love how people say "but that's how the world works! Accept it!" No, that's how the Capitalist society that we have built works! Not to say Communism is any other societal system is any better, hell most have proven they don't work at all, but the banking problems show that our current system is not even close to working well. There is a reason we have anti-monopoly laws and regulations: because businesses cannot be trusted!



Just because a business has the right to charge excessive prices because it's customers are unaware of it's true value does not make it right.

[AngryFrozenWater]

GithCheater wrote...

[snip]

Doesn't Bioware / EA have substantial extra costs for "licensing" from either Microsoft (X-Box) or Sony (PS-3)?

I think so. The fees are pretty high.

[elys]

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

GithCheater wrote...

[snip]

Doesn't Bioware / EA have substantial extra costs for "licensing" from either Microsoft (X-Box) or Sony (PS-3)?

I think so. The fees are pretty high.

You bet, how do you think console makers win their money, it's not by selling consoles but by licensing the games on it

[falon-din]

damn right

[TGx3ljun47]

elys wrote...

DVD are definitively overpriced in my opinion and since a long time. Seriously it's one domain where the movie industry directly promoted piracy upon itself with such pricing practice.

One day one international major movie publisher (I forgot which one, it was few years ago) announced that it could sell movie DVD about 2~3$ in China and still make benefices with such price ( with DVD paper packaging, not plastic box). When you hear that and watch the price of DVD in USA or Europe you really feel yourself as a poor milkcow.

Hmmm....? I don't think workers in china get the same amount of wages compared to western countries. 

[FlintlockJazz]

izzy47 wrote...

elys wrote...

DVD are definitively overpriced in my opinion and since a long time. Seriously it's one domain where the movie industry directly promoted piracy upon itself with such pricing practice.

One day one international major movie publisher (I forgot which one, it was few years ago) announced that it could sell movie DVD about 2~3$ in China and still make benefices with such price ( with DVD paper packaging, not plastic box). When you hear that and watch the price of DVD in USA or Europe you really feel yourself as a poor milkcow.

Hmmm....? I don't think workers in china get the same amount of wages compared to western countries. 

Which is why most of our products are made over there nowadays...

[Abriael_CG]

Dragon Age1103 wrote...

people=stupid

You're right. This thread is a perfect example of that equation.

[NastyDryPeanut]

You guys are really a bunch of whinners, not to be harsh or anything but really.

Don't like it, to exspensive? Then don't buy it, it's so very simple. The price will drop in time. Then once you see a price that ''fits'' you, then go get em tiger.

[TGx3ljun47]

NastyDryPeanut wrote...

You guys are really a bunch of whinners, not to be harsh or anything but really.
Don't like it, to exspensive? Then don't buy it, it's so very simple. The price will drop in time. Then once you see a price that ''fits'' you, then go get em tiger.

LOL I'm just trying to join the conversation twas all 

[NastyDryPeanut]

haha, nice save there Izzy 

[TGx3ljun47]

NastyDryPeanut wrote...

haha, nice save there Izzy 

LOL, I'm easy mate 

[FlintlockJazz]

izzy47 wrote...

NastyDryPeanut wrote...

haha, nice save there Izzy 

LOL, I'm easy mate 

Cheap too!