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[Fast Jimmy]

supremebloodwolf wrote...

Party banter about how the caves around kirkwall all look the same. :happy:

Party banter about a hero from a distant land called the Marauder. Who had a famous Shield which gave him strength...

[philippe willaume]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

supremebloodwolf wrote...

Party banter about how the caves around kirkwall all look the same. :happy:

Party banter about a hero from a distant land called the Marauder. Who had a famous Shield which gave him strength...

cheeky

[chasemme]

d4eaming wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

Do we really need another thread for people to **** about Dragon Age 2?

You'd think with all the hate-on people have for it that they'd give up, since DA staff has said they are keeping a lot of the elements they're stroking their hate-on to. If you're that momumentally miserable with a game series, then go find another one.

Hm. I didn't notice hate. The stuff seemed moderately constructive. My post wasn't, but I didn't feel like there was a lot of hate spewed about in it, either.

Topic seems reasonable, and the responses also seem that way. "Haters" just appeared in the title. It's similar to the "what do you want to see" thread, just targeted at people who weren't satisfied with DA2 rather than the whole population.

Not really necessary to just pop into a topic and post based on what you think is going on.

[Fast Jimmy]

chasemme wrote...

Not really necessary to just pop into a topic and post based on what you think is going on.

Welcome to the BSN! No reading outside of the thread title required.

[d4eaming]

chasemme wrote...

d4eaming wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

Do we really need another thread for people to **** about Dragon Age 2?

You'd think with all the hate-on people have for it that they'd give up, since DA staff has said they are keeping a lot of the elements they're stroking their hate-on to. If you're that momumentally miserable with a game series, then go find another one.

Hm. I didn't notice hate. The stuff seemed moderately constructive. My post wasn't, but I didn't feel like there was a lot of hate spewed about in it, either.

Topic seems reasonable, and the responses also seem that way. "Haters" just appeared in the title. It's similar to the "what do you want to see" thread, just targeted at people who weren't satisfied with DA2 rather than the whole population.

Not really necessary to just pop into a topic and post based on what you think is going on.

I have read it, and there is a pretty palpable blanket of hate for DA2 flowing through the forums. Even from people that haven't actually played the game. It's pretty tiring seeing constant "I hate DA2 and here's why, and no, nothing Bioware can do will make me stop hating their game."

A lot of the list items are things BW has stated categorically that they will continue to keep within their games (diablogue wheel, voiced protag, etc). So it's basically a bunch of people flailing themselves at an electric fence and then whining when they get shocked.

[BouncyFrag]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

supremebloodwolf wrote...

Party banter about how the caves around kirkwall all look the same. :happy:

Party banter about a hero from a distant land called the Marauder. Who had a famous Shield which gave him strength...

Never forget. Never. Forget.

[philippe willaume]

Combat
I liked the tactical possibility that DA:O gave us. if anything i would like to get something like that again. i.e. being able to use the terrain, using the companion in a much more tactical way and for the main protagonist and the companion to have talents that supports several tactics/game play.
I.e. no more DA:2 one trick pony that you repeat ad nauseam.

As well I would like the specialisation you choose to have an effect on how people react to you.

Story
well like Fast jimmy said, the story don't need to be an epic saving the world as we know it. IE The seven Samurai is about saving a village no-one really care about and It is still a great story

The story can be linear, modular convoluted or simple but
make it engaging. so no more stuff like
- you want a statue for Hawke? the hero of kirkwal!!??
- Do you mean the nutter that went around trying to flog you some crappy pants?

If the quest end with some potentate pissed off and threatening the protagonist of reprisal, it is good from to make something happen later or at least that it has some form of influence on the protagonist. the quest need to tie up with the story and teh character. in DA:2 ifelt that i as a player cared more of kirkwal and what would happen than all the cast put together Hawke included.

Faction
if there are to be some, makes them worth their while. the template and the mage faction felt as if they had the weight and influence of the guild of the carrot grater or the street candle lighter. it is just as well because non-of then seem to care what Hawke is doing for or against them
Ideally I would like to see a friendship/rivalry with factions, and the level would influence the ending of the story arc and may by opening up side quest/companions

Companion
speaking of which DA:2 had a really good depth for the stories and side quest, though they felt a little more bland that DA:0 companions. so I would like, at least some of the companion with more at stake in the story or with a more defined opinions.
you know so that you have to role play to win them over or antagonise then

Conversation
Regardless of the presentation, I feel it would be better if the player could get it wrong. conversation is a good vector for role playing and it could be a way to resolve situation without fight or to create something that will come and bite the protagonist in the bum latter in the game.
Cinematic are fine and having the protagonist in autopilot for several sentences is ok At least in certain cases, but in some other we could do with a combat like granularity. It should not only be a means of moving the story, it should be a mean to influence and shape the story.

Ending
well fast jimmy covered that pretty thoroughly. I would just had that it really add insult to injury when you have the ending of ME:3 and DA:2 after having some of the ME:3 chapter resolution like the genophage , quarian vs geth or in DA:2 arishok strory arc.

[unknown16]

abaris wrote...

1) Scrap the wave system
2) Scrap the monkey combat
3) No exploding lego men unless there's good reason for an enemy to disintegrate
4) No reused environments
5) If there's a conflict between two factions, one including mages, make the other side react to magic talents used.
6) friendly fire at any difficulty
7) Ability to outfit companions to my liking
8) If you fell compelled to tag on MP, don't tie it to the single player campaign, thereby making the SP suffer.
9) A story that can actually be called a story and not some lose chain of events leading to a less than satisfying ending.
10) Choices that matter
11) Sidequests going beyond fetch.

I'm sure I forgot some things, but that should do for starters.

@8: If they include a MP, SP will suffer no matter what. Co-developing two types of gameplay with one publisher is a bad idea from the start. Imagine the cut content! Just look at ME3.

To be honest, all I want from DA3 is a dialogue wheel for all conversations and choices that matter. I didn't hate DA2, I just didn't like it.

[Steppenwolf]

d4eaming wrote...

I have read it, and there is a pretty palpable blanket of hate for DA2 flowing through the forums. Even from people that haven't actually played the game. It's pretty tiring seeing constant "I hate DA2 and here's why, and no, nothing Bioware can do will make me stop hating their game."

A lot of the list items are things BW has stated categorically that they will continue to keep within their games (diablogue wheel, voiced protag, etc). So it's basically a bunch of people flailing themselves at an electric fence and then whining when they get shocked.

Well it's a good thing we have you here to tell us if we've played the game and whether or not we're allowed to discuss our opinions.
Seriously, take it down a notch, Captain Hissyfit.

[argan1985]

Not sure it's possible. A lot of people thought Dragon Age 2 was such an awfully bad game that there is no way they will buy a Bioware game again. I agree with them, but I am carefully optimistic. There is no way in hell I will pre-order a Bioware game again, though.

[Wulfram]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

supremebloodwolf wrote...

Party banter about how the caves around kirkwall all look the same. :happy:

Party banter about a hero from a distant land called the Marauder. Who had a famous Shield which gave him strength...

I found jokes like that about DA:O in DA2 kind of annoying, personally.

[Fast Jimmy]

philippe willaume wrote...
 I would just had that it really add insult to injury when you have the ending of ME:3 and DA:2 after having some of the ME:3 chapter resolution like the genophage , quarian vs geth or in DA:2 arishok strory arc.

That's the real sting of it all. You had some truly superb bits of writing in there, great pieces of action and development. Its just when you get to the end of the train ride that things have been falling apart recently. 

A good ending = a good final experience of the game. Period.

You don't want to immediately go back and nitpick and complain about an experience that ends on a good note. Again... not happy. Just cathartic. Let me feel like the last 30-50 hours I dumped into your game were worth a hoot. You can have things not be perfect, you can kill my character... but at least recognize that I made decisions in the game and that those decisions should be acknowledged in the end. As I see it, you could do a totally sad, depressing ending (not unlike the Ultimate Sacrifice ending in DA:O) and still give us closure (like through the Epilogue Slides). If DA:O had given us control of another character, such as The Other Warden (like Loghain or Allistair) in the U.S. ending and let us talk to our companions , even as someone else just musing about the Warden's impact, that would have been even better. 

Wulfram wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

supremebloodwolf wrote...

Party banter about how the caves around kirkwall all look the same. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/happy.png[/smilie]

Party banter about a hero from a distant land called the Marauder. Who had a famous Shield which gave him strength...

I found jokes like that about DA:O in DA2 kind of annoying, personally.

[The Elder King]

Wulfram wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

supremebloodwolf wrote...

Party banter about how the caves around kirkwall all look the same. :happy:

Party banter about a hero from a distant land called the Marauder. Who had a famous Shield which gave him strength...

I found jokes like that about DA:O in DA2 kind of annoying, personally.

They were present? I didn't play the game for some time, but if they were present in the banter, I read all of them. I probably didn't notice (or didn't care). Regardless, I'm not opposed to them. Though I doubt they're going to do a easter egg about Marauder's Shields.

[Fast Jimmy]

hhh89 wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

supremebloodwolf wrote...

Party banter about how the caves around kirkwall all look the same. :happy:

Party banter about a hero from a distant land called the Marauder. Who had a famous Shield which gave him strength...

I found jokes like that about DA:O in DA2 kind of annoying, personally.

They were present? I didn't play the game for some time, but if they were present in the banter, I read all of them. I probably didn't notice (or didn't care). Regardless, I'm not opposed to them. Though I doubt they're going to do a easter egg about Marauder's Shields.

Don't hate on the Marauder Shields Easter Egg. 

[dreamgazer]

Personally, a hyper-powerful "marauder shield" would do a lot to earn my good graces.

[lazuli]

Perhaps it's been said, but eradicate the wave mechanic, or at least have enemies appear from semi-plausible locations. Christ.

[The Elder King]

Fast Jimmy wrote...



Don't hate on the Marauder Shields Easter Egg. 

I don't. I'd actually like this  to see this easter egg (the best would be if Varric is the one that tells the story ). It's just that I don't think Bioware will do it.

Modifié par hhh89, 15 décembre 2012 - 01:21 .

[Fast Jimmy]

hhh89 wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...



Don't hate on the Marauder Shields Easter Egg. 

I don't. I'd actually like this  to see this easter egg (the best would be if Varric is the one that tells the story ). It's just that I don't think Bioware will do it.

I know, I know... a guy can dream, right? 

[DragonAgeLegend]

Islandrockzor wrote...



Edit:
- The possibility to turn off the in combat moaning. Every single party member moaning upon every hit/attack, hell, I've been playing with next to no sound so that my neighboors won't think I'm sitting here all evening watching porn.

Hahahaha! 

[Allan Schumacher]

I'd actually like this to see this easter egg (the best would be if Varric is the one that tells the story ). It's just that I don't think Bioware will do it.

My main reservation for not doing it would be that some people would inevitably use it as ammunition against Mass Effect.

[d4eaming]

BasilKarlo wrote...

Well it's a good thing we have you here to tell us if we've played the game and whether or not we're allowed to discuss our opinions.
Seriously, take it down a notch, Captain Hissyfit.

Oh someone got defensive there. I wasn't talking about you, dimwit. There is at least one person on the board, though I can't recall their handle, that has never actually played past the demo but likes to tell everyone how much the whole game sucked.

I never said anything about your right to discuss an opinion, I just find it really stupid to keep complaining about a franchise that you (general you, not you personally) obviously dispise.

[Steppenwolf]

d4eaming wrote...

BasilKarlo wrote...

Well it's a good thing we have you here to tell us if we've played the game and whether or not we're allowed to discuss our opinions.
Seriously, take it down a notch, Captain Hissyfit.

Oh someone got defensive there. I wasn't talking about you, dimwit. There is at least one person on the board, though I can't recall their handle, that has never actually played past the demo but likes to tell everyone how much the whole game sucked.

I never said anything about your right to discuss an opinion, I just find it really stupid to keep complaining about a franchise that you (general you, not you personally) obviously dispise.

Odd that someone with such poor reading comprehension is calling someone else a dimwit.

[Thor Rand Al]

chasemme wrote...

d4eaming wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

Do we really need another thread for people to **** about Dragon Age 2?

You'd think with all the hate-on people have for it that they'd give up, since DA staff has said they are keeping a lot of the elements they're stroking their hate-on to. If you're that momumentally miserable with a game series, then go find another one.

Hm. I didn't notice hate. The stuff seemed moderately constructive. My post wasn't, but I didn't feel like there was a lot of hate spewed about in it, either.

Topic seems reasonable, and the responses also seem that way. "Haters" just appeared in the title. It's similar to the "what do you want to see" thread, just targeted at people who weren't satisfied with DA2 rather than the whole population.

Not really necessary to just pop into a topic and post based on what you think is going on.

I can see where d4eaming and  mage Hawke are coming from though, how longs it been since DA 2 came out n what over a yr later still negativity about the game... Technically this part of the forums for DA Inquistion and talking about it's future... But I'm also one who really enjoyed DA 2 so my opinion on this topic doesn't count and I should bow out gracefully lol.... So 

Modifié par Thor Rand Al, 15 décembre 2012 - 03:57 .

[Steppenwolf]

At this point, aside from limited character customization, the only game details we know of are carryovers from DA2. Ignoring DA2 and Origins to talk exclusively about Inquisition seems pretty impossible.

[Plaintiff]

chasemme wrote...

d4eaming wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

Do we really need another thread for people to **** about Dragon Age 2?

You'd think with all the hate-on people have for it that they'd give up, since DA staff has said they are keeping a lot of the elements they're stroking their hate-on to. If you're that momumentally miserable with a game series, then go find another one.

Hm. I didn't notice hate. The stuff seemed moderately constructive. My post wasn't, but I didn't feel like there was a lot of hate spewed about in it, either.

Topic seems reasonable, and the responses also seem that way. "Haters" just appeared in the title. It's similar to the "what do you want to see" thread, just targeted at people who weren't satisfied with DA2 rather than the whole population.

Not really necessary to just pop into a topic and post based on what you think is going on.

I think the wording of the title completely changes the context of the thread, especially the incredibly self-entitled notion that Bioware need to "redeem" themselves, as if no game company anywhere has ever before made a product that didn't necessarily appeal to every single member of their fanbase.

The way people act on this forum, you'd think Bioware employees had personally stormed into their houses and killed their pets.