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[P51Mus7ang]

Agree that Geth are far worse, Collectors can be managed at least on gold.

However speaking of Praetorians something has happened twice on Jade/gold.....just a keep your eye's open. The upper level as we know has two halls, I like collectors on Jade as flanking Scoins is very effective, what has happened to me twice is a Praetorian was in the far hall, I was in the middle one shooting at whatever coming up the stairs at the end, I never stand half way down the hall as there is an opening that allows one to move between the two hallways, anyhow twice a Praetorian was come through cover to grab me, first time I thought I was flanked but last night when it happened I saw it come through...I think there is glass between the two.

[LAZERAK47]

Let me explain:

Gold difficulty

1. Geth: Only ever go down when Rocket troopers cheat-shoot.

2. Reapers: Only ever downed by crossmapping Ravagers.

3. Cerberus: Lucky if they get me down to one health bar.

4. Collectors: Down 3 times in the first wave.

Seeing the problem here? The amount of things the Collectors can exploit (Friggen Praetorians who're almost dead becoming possessed) is too damn high!

Harbinger, you massive troll.

[chefcook90]

LAZERAK47 wrote...

Let me explain:

Gold difficulty

1. Geth: Only ever go down when Rocket troopers cheat-shoot.

2. Reapers: Only ever downed by crossmapping Ravagers.

3. Cerberus: Lucky if they get me down to one health bar.

4. Collectors: Down 3 times in the first wave.

Seeing the problem here? The amount of things the Collectors can exploit (Friggen Praetorians who're almost dead becoming possessed) is too damn high!

Harbinger, you massive troll.

Thumbs Up! (Though I tend to die via scumbag Banshee more than Ravagers)

[R0binME]

LAZERAK47 wrote...

Let me explain:

Gold difficulty

1. Geth: Only ever go down when Rocket troopers cheat-shoot.

2. Reapers: Only ever downed by crossmapping Ravagers.

3. Cerberus: Lucky if they get me down to one health bar.

4. Collectors: Down 3 times in the first wave.

Seeing the problem here? The amount of things the Collectors can exploit (Friggen Praetorians who're almost dead becoming possessed) is too damn high!

Harbinger, you massive troll.

Gold. Wave 1. Praetorians. That doesn't add up.
Still that is personal prefference.
Collectors might be a bit harder, but hey, I don't mind. The more of a challenge, the more fun. right?

[LAZERAK47]

R0binME wrote...

LAZERAK47 wrote...

Let me explain:

Gold difficulty

1. Geth: Only ever go down when Rocket troopers cheat-shoot.

2. Reapers: Only ever downed by crossmapping Ravagers.

3. Cerberus: Lucky if they get me down to one health bar.

4. Collectors: Down 3 times in the first wave.

Seeing the problem here? The amount of things the Collectors can exploit (Friggen Praetorians who're almost dead becoming possessed) is too damn high!

Harbinger, you massive troll.

Gold. Wave 1. Praetorians. That doesn't add up.
Still that is personal prefference.
Collectors might be a bit harder, but hey, I don't mind. The more of a challenge, the more fun. right?

There is a difference between challenging and flat-out cheap.

With the other factions, it's all a matter of knowing when to shoot, when to run and what to use.

With Collectors, it's a fustercluck of being ripped apart by everything almost instantly, having your kills denied by scumbag Harbinger and generally becoming impared by EVERYTHING.

As for the Praetorian thing, that was just an example. I don't mean I get downed by them on the first wave.

[najzere]

I think Geth are easier than Collectors, but I like them both. If either faction is cheap though, it's Geth.

[P51Mus7ang]

LAZERAK47 wrote...

Let me explain:

Gold difficulty

1. Geth: Only ever go down when Rocket troopers cheat-shoot.

2. Reapers: Only ever downed by crossmapping Ravagers.

3. Cerberus: Lucky if they get me down to one health bar.

4. Collectors: Down 3 times in the first wave.

Seeing the problem here? The amount of things the Collectors can exploit (Friggen Praetorians who're almost dead becoming possessed) is too damn high!

Harbinger, you massive troll.

Hunters get me far more than troopers.....man I wish my GPS were that good:)

Collectors require a bit of a different gameplay which is why, for the most part, I like them. I cried Scoins when they first came out, and I still think they are too OP however after much trial and a lot of error, I can deal with them and quickly.

For what it's worth if you are XB and would like to do a few runs vs them on gold this evening, just send me a PM here as it comes through on my BB and I'll send you an invite or send a msg on XB. I haven't mastered them however they haven't mastered me either:)

Modifié par P51Mus7ang, 14 décembre 2012 - 07:51 .

[TheSpookyAce]

There is a difficulty jump with collectors, but not as high as op exaggerated. If a team can manage the other 3 factions without much problem on Gold, they should be able to manage through collectors.

[flibber89-2]

unknown unknown with randoms Collectors are definitely the toughest opponents in my opinion, but it depends on what kit you're rolling with.. I haven't played the character in a while but I found Destroyer w Harrier and Crusader was just devastating versus Collector scum.

[unclemonster]

the only reason I dislike them: PS3 FREEZING!!!!!

happened yet AGAIN last night gold ghost collectors
we all froze wave 9!!!!

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

That would hurt! Oh, you meant derisively...

[RaptorSolutions]

LegionofRannoch wrote...

Mr. Geth Prime and his Combat Drone are insulted!

I hate geth, I actually like fighting Collectors. All their units have big heads for headshotting.

Tbh the only annoying thing I find they have is their grenade spam. Other than that, big heads for shooting. And if you miss chances are you'll hit something important anyway.

I mean, try comparing headshotting a praetorian shooting at you against headshotting a geth prime shooting at you.

[GallowsPole]

I still don't get the Praetorian hate. They pretty easy to duck. You can have them point their laser anywhere and avoid it. Scions on the other hand.....especially in packs........

[The Wayward Vagabond]

LegionofRannoch wrote...

Mr. Geth Prime and his Combat Drone are insulted!

O-Oh wow, thanks for the the laugh I guess.
"snicker"

[Dark Tlaloc]

Geth are probably easier than Collectors, but certainly much cheaper, as has been said. There are certainly times on Gold (and even Silver, sadly) that the Collectors feel overwhelming, but it’s only because they’re powerful. The Geth can sometimes feel overwhelming because they simply don’t play by the rules the game has set. They don’t stun correctly, they double-shoot missiles at you, they glitch out and become semi-invincible, and they can stun you to an extent that’s pretty absurd. I used to like playing the Geth, because I thought that they were a powerful faction whose power was mitigated by a weakness to tech (overload, energy drain, etc). Now I hate them (Geth bombers are just incredibly obnoxious), and find them way too glitchy to be any fun.

[AlexMBrennan]

Seriously, they make Gold and Platinum nearly impossible thanks to their sheer OPedness. Instead of nerfing all our characters, Collectors need a nerf BIG TIME!

OK, let me explain something for you: The highest difficulty is meant to be hard. Not everyone can be in the top 5%, so get over it and play on a difficulty you can manage and enjoy even if you get fewer credits.

As for cheap difficulty, you're only getting that now? All "difficulty" in ME3 is cheap - people love it, so why change the formula?

[Doc-Jek]

Collectors are tough, but they aren't cheap... Geth are cheap. Know the difference.

[Skyance]

unclemonster wrote...

the only reason I dislike them: PS3 FREEZING!!!!!

This. Doesn't only happen on Gold, either. Froze on dagger/silver, too. =/

[Zero132132]

chefcook90 wrote...

Zero132132 wrote...

chefcook90 wrote...

LegionofRannoch wrote...

Mr. Geth Prime and his Combat Drone are insulted!

You do realize that the Geth prime has the lowest DPS of any boss enemy, right? (substituting Ravagers for Banshees) They basically just carry giant stun guns.

Krogan / N7 Destroyer being bombarded by 3 Primes on Gold = me shouting "Look at all the f*cks I don't give!" and ripping them appart with my Typhoon.

It's not the primes, it's the stunlock. And the ****ing combat drone stunlock which pulls you out of a sprint and out of revives.

Honestly, it's mostly that ****ing combat drone. If I could remove them from the game, I would.

Krogan = highly stun resistant, N7 Destroyer = stun immune.
Rocket troopers are way worse than primes if you ask me - there are more of them, they do more damage than primes, their rockets home in on you, and they can triple tap their launchers for rediculously high RoF.

Collectors aren't so bad as long as you're playing as a grenade / weapon class. Krosent / Demolisher gets hit by seeker swarm? I shout "Look at all the f*cks I don't give!" and shower the map with grenades!

Krogan is defenseless against the Combat Drone.

[JumboWheat01]

The only cheapness I see in the Collectors is when the Praetorian survives a missile to the... face? Doesn't got all possessed mode, just eats the missile like it was just a spicy munchy and moves on.

Where as the Geth include stunlocks like there's no tomorrow, hunters that manage to shoot you as they go flying over your head after being lashed, pyros that sneak up on you and roast you from a distance much farther than the flames reach, Turrets and Combat Drones popping wherever and whenever they feel like, and quad-tapping Rocket Troopers.

[hudder92]

chefcook90 wrote...

Zero132132 wrote...

chefcook90 wrote...

LegionofRannoch wrote...

Mr. Geth Prime and his Combat Drone are insulted!

You do realize that the Geth prime has the lowest DPS of any boss enemy, right? (substituting Ravagers for Banshees) They basically just carry giant stun guns.

Krogan / N7 Destroyer being bombarded by 3 Primes on Gold = me shouting "Look at all the f*cks I don't give!" and ripping them appart with my Typhoon.

It's not the primes, it's the stunlock. And the ****ing combat drone stunlock which pulls you out of a sprint and out of revives.

Honestly, it's mostly that ****ing combat drone. If I could remove them from the game, I would.

Rocket troopers are way worse than primes if you ask me - there are more of them, they do more damage than primes, their rockets home in on you, and they can triple tap their launchers for rediculously high RoF.

Don't forget that they can triple shoot their rockets in any direction. It doesn't matter what direction they are facing. If you are standing behind them, they sill shoot a rocket at your face without even looking at you.

[Stalker1337shzbt]

My Krogan Sentinel eats bees for breakfast, dinner and supper.

[Kaiseresc]

main problem with collectors is how the praetorian's eye beam works (sometimes cant even dodge it. sometimes the beam's fatter than it looks) and his stupid melee and sync-kill. and then there's the collector trooper/captain melee action, that can stagger you just after you get up, due to the wind up of the animation. along with the fact that they can start their melee, you back away and you still get hit by it.

[Warpwny]

Today I did a quick Gold run and a Preatorian took a missile without dying. It blew off his shields and then he floated on through to Where ever he decided he had to be.

I hate Collectors with a passion. Preatorians the most. A super fast, bullet sponging, power blocking, lunging, huge melee and ranged damage that ignore cover machine with 2 different sync kills.

But that is ok. If you can get your whole team to shoot off a front panel they die easy! Assuming they don't become possessed and refill on Armor.

Beyond that... Collector's aren't so bad.

And I never had a problem with Geth Primes because "Chain Overload."

[Dalis918]

I say get rid of those bomb drone things and replace them with Geth Destroyers likely be less annoying. -.-

Edit, sorry was thinking of Geth Juggernaut

Modifié par Dalis918, 14 décembre 2012 - 10:11 .