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[peddroelm]

Conclusions Sabotage 50% tech vulnerability

- DOES NOT AFFECT HOMING GRENADE DAMAGE
- DOES NOT AFFECT SENTRY TURRET GUN DAMAGE
- DOES NOT AFFECT SENTRY TURRET ROCKET DAMAGE
- DOES NOT AFFECT SENTRY TURRET FLAMER DAMAGE
- DOES NOT AFFECT TSE light melee
- DOES AFFECT TSE heavy melee (global *1.5 multiplier)
- DOES AFFECT sentry turret shock damage(global *1.5 multiplier)
- DOES AFFECT Tech combos (TB, FE, CE) (global *1.5 multiplier) (TSE can do serious TB damage vs shields) (sabotage + homing)

NOT directly TSE related but
- Does NOT affect sticky grenade damage (QFI  ) 
- Does NOT affect arc grenade damage
- Does affect flamer damage (yay !!! are there any other actual tech powers besides flamer ? . Perhaps overload & incinerate)


- Sentry turret gun damage is affected (suffers) from Armor DR like hit scan weapons

test numbers

sentry turret mechanics thread

Modifié par peddroelmz, 15 décembre 2012 - 01:38 .

[megawug]

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[TheKillerAngel]

So, the Turian Saboteur melee build is coming up next?

[TheSpookyAce]

He needs buffs, like right now.

[Learn To Love Yourself]

megawug wrote...

Sad panda

Agreed.
Why would this be?  Both the Sentry Turret & Homing Grenades benefit from other tech bonuses (equipment), don't they?

[PsychoticBiotic]

So basically, another bugged kit.

[peddroelm]

TheKillerAngel wrote...

So, the Turian Saboteur melee build is coming up next?

 

his HM base damage is only 600 and it gets

75% vs armour
100% vs shields
100% vs barriers ..

Even with *1.5 *1.5 (sabotage and shotgun heavy melee add-on) it won't reach very high numbers ... Aldough the martial artist 75% bonus looks nice .

Modifié par peddroelmz, 14 décembre 2012 - 07:42 .

[BlackbirdSR-71C]

xlxkxcc wrote...

He needs buffs, like right now.

Only after we get buffs for the

Quarian Engineer (Sentry Turret)

Batarian Sentinel (SubNet, replace shockwave with warp)

Vorcha Engineer (SubNet)

in that oder since that's how they were released.

I don't care HOW underperforming the TSE is, start cleaning this mess up from the source.

[Tybo]

Yikes. No sabotage boost to Homing Grenades really really hurts. I was planning to spec away from my melee build, since it struggles with enemies staggering you out of melee...but now I think I'm just not gonna waste a respec card.

[Flambrose]

That explains why homing grenade seemed to suck so much on him. Oh well.

Thanks for the info.

[AkuIaTubShark]

So... Basically he's a slightly tankier QFE without Cyro/Incinerate and instead HG and Sabo, which seems pointless on him.. Bleh. Sabo needs a buff.

[Ziegrif]

BlackbirdSR-71C wrote...

Batarian Sentinel (SubNet, replace shockwave with warp)

Over my dead body.
A huge flat no to this.
Everything and their mother already has Warp.

[Flambrose]

TheKillerAngel wrote...

So, the Turian Saboteur melee build is coming up next?

Do it with a ghost instead. Insanely fun.

[HoochieHamiltoe]

This news is really disappointing.

[CmnDwnWrkn]

Okay, I think we can now safely assume that BioWare did not perform any testing of these weekly characters prior to releasing them.  I was giving them the benefit of the doubt, but this is just too much.  I have to tell you, these weekly character releases have changed my opinion of BW's current quality processes for the worse.

I'd personally be embarrassed if I were responsible for releasing such broken content on a weekly basis.

Modifié par CmnDwnWrkn, 14 décembre 2012 - 07:45 .

[cronshaw]

Thanks for running the tests.
So another kit they slapped sabatoge on that sucks with it and would be better off with something else.

[BlackbirdSR-71C]

Ziegrif wrote...

BlackbirdSR-71C wrote...

Batarian Sentinel (SubNet, replace shockwave with warp)

Over my dead body.
A huge flat no to this.
Everything and their mother already has Warp.

He'd only be the second sentinel with Warp.

Reave wouldn't work as good, it doesn't give a debuff.

[NuclearTech76]

Another bugged kit? How surprising.

[X-Frame]

Are Homing Grenades and the Turret supposed to be boosted by Tech Vulnerability? Are they tech abilities or combat?

[Imp of the Perverse]

peddroelmz wrote...

TheKillerAngel wrote...

So, the Turian Saboteur melee build is coming up next?

 

his HM base damage is only 600 and it gets

75% vs armour
100% vs shields
100% vs barriers ..

Even with *1.5 *1.5 (sabotage and shotgun heavy melee add-on) it won't reach very high numbers ... Aldough the martial artist 75% bonus looks nice .

It doesn't seem to kill a gold phantom from full health in one hit (like an FQI can), but it'll kill all the usual shielded enemies (centurions, marauders, rocket troopers, etc.) Sabotage backfire doesn't do as much damage againt barriers as it does against shields though, so it also won't kill a collector captain, which makes it a lot less viable against collectors.

[Ziegrif]

BlackbirdSR-71C wrote...

Ziegrif wrote...

BlackbirdSR-71C wrote...

Batarian Sentinel (SubNet, replace shockwave with warp)

Over my dead body.
A huge flat no to this.
Everything and their mother already has Warp.

He'd only be the second sentinel with Warp.

Reave wouldn't work as good, it doesn't give a debuff.

No warp. Shockwave. I like my complete high range detonator that can hit multiple targets. Shockwave is one of my favorite abilities and has saved my arse more than anything.

[BjornDaDwarf]

Ziegrif wrote...

BlackbirdSR-71C wrote...

Ziegrif wrote...

BlackbirdSR-71C wrote...

Batarian Sentinel (SubNet, replace shockwave with warp)

Over my dead body.
A huge flat no to this.
Everything and their mother already has Warp.

He'd only be the second sentinel with Warp.

Reave wouldn't work as good, it doesn't give a debuff.

No warp. Shockwave. I like my complete high range detonator that can hit multiple targets. Shockwave is one of my favorite abilities and has saved my arse more than anything.

Finally, someone else who likes Shockwave.  Shaman, BatSent and Hdept would not be the same without it. 

Also, you're trying to take Hatesurfing away from us.  That makes you a very bad person, and you should feel bad.

[BlackbirdSR-71C]

Ziegrif wrote...

BlackbirdSR-71C wrote...

Ziegrif wrote...

BlackbirdSR-71C wrote...

Batarian Sentinel (SubNet, replace shockwave with warp)

Over my dead body.
A huge flat no to this.
Everything and their mother already has Warp.

He'd only be the second sentinel with Warp.

Reave wouldn't work as good, it doesn't give a debuff.

No warp. Shockwave. I like my complete high range detonator that can hit multiple targets. Shockwave is one of my favorite abilities and has saved my arse more than anything.

Three targets. And it will prioritize swarmers.

And the BatSent can only pull of tech bursts, where you have to cast SubNet first, which can miss, but most importantly, its animation takes at least twice as long as casting warp. Not to mention that it's absolutely not worth the combined casting times as you can easily do more damage with just a Piranha in the same time.

Bad powers = bad
Bad power combination = also bad

[unclemonster]

as usual, thanks pedro
you are a true asset here

[TeamLexana]

BlackbirdSR-71C wrote...

Ziegrif wrote...

BlackbirdSR-71C wrote...

Batarian Sentinel (SubNet, replace shockwave with warp)

Over my dead body.
A huge flat no to this.
Everything and their mother already has Warp.

He'd only be the second sentinel with Warp.

Reave wouldn't work as good, it doesn't give a debuff.

Aww. Poor padwan. Replace the lackluster SubNet with Reave and trust me, the BatSent would wreck all things. Next time you play with a Reave spammer in your lobby, bring a BatSent with Shockwave and you'll see. For max lol's take a Harrier as well to take advantage of the racial extra ammo bonuses and you'll be believer in no time, hehe.