In my headcanoned ending after getting shot by Harbinger's beam my Shepard is on the ground knocked out cold. While he is out he has the hallucination of going up to the beam and encountering TIM and Anderson (same as original ending).
He meets and speaks with The Being of Light a.k.a. Starboy and they have their conversation (same as in game) but after realizing that the Starboy is completely full of it and ultimately has another hidden agenda, my Shepard shoots him in the head and after The Being of Light says "SO BE IT" my Shepard wakes up on earth surrounded by Reaper enemies in which he easily destroys with help from an unlikely ally.
By refusing Starboy Harbinger has failed and my Shepard was able beat indoctrination, wake up, and finish the fight in reality.
In other words my Shepard's hallucination encounter with TIM, Anderson, and The Being of Light was a mental test from Harbinger which my Shepard passed. If he had picked Control or Synthesis he would have become a slave to The Reapers.
So who do you guys think will find Shepard and rescue him from the rubble????
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#52
Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 01:39
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Yep, because the file says "Shepard lives" and the lI doesn't put the plaque up, like they'd know. Of course rationally none of that suggests a hight chance of living but apparently you've got to consider why a scene would be inserted, and that trumps what it actually shows and what the most likely consequences are. It's more artistic like this.Rauhel wrote...
Oh yeah... I forgot about that. Man. they really went out of their way to make a timely rescue seem highly unlikely. Are we really supposed to take Shepard laying in a pile of rubble, on the brink of death, with almost no chance that someone will find him/her in time as confirmation that s/he survives, just because they took in a single breath? They should make it clear that Shepard recovers and is at least reunited with the love interest. There are other ways to kill Shepard, why make the "Shepard lives" ending so ambiguous?
I like someone's earlier suggestion of Miranda helping patch him up if she's still around. Shepard not surviving if she's dead would be an interesting little final twist. edit - hope it doesn't turn out that Wilson was the brains of the operation, despite trying to sabotage it.
ok .. a little bit of nit picking .. (not on your post)
1. the file says shepard lives
2. the li hesitates to put the plaque on the wall
3. shepard takes a single breath
1. datamining is not a creditable source for information .. its just a filename
2. the li knows that anderson is dead and that shepard is presumed dead - how do you know that anderson is dead, because they found his body. what about shepard? somehow they must have got the information, that shepard is KIA and not just MIA. you do not put the name of a missing person on a memorial wall.
we can assume, that someone found some remains of shepard on the citadel. could not have been the dog tags .. and shepard does not wear a helmet on the citadel.
maybe because they found something in london? if yes, then they would have no reason to search the citadel for shepard.
the whole scene is not thought out and full of logical errors.
3. shepard survives the blast, takes a deep breath and may even get back on his/her feet. the problem is, that shep is presumed dead - the crew on the normandy has a qed and is most likely in contact with hackett, who confirms, that anderson is dead (nameplate) and that shepard in dead or presumed dead (nameplate). so even if shepard lives, nobody will search for him/her, because shep is presumed KIA. in addition, nobody knows, where shepard lands after the explosion .. the citadel is a big place. even if they know where shep was during the blast - where did he/she land?
you do not search for the body of a presumed dead person - even if it is the savior of the universe. you take care of the wounded and dying.
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Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 01:57
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Gandalf with some space-eagles.
They put a lot of thought into making Shepard being rescued as unlikely as possible, yet it is clear it's the intended result.
They put a lot of thought into making Shepard being rescued as unlikely as possible, yet it is clear it's the intended result.
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Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 02:10
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No one. Considering how badly Shepard has been hurt and the fact that the only people able to rescue him (those on the ships that jumped away) are unable to reach him until they perform repairs, he's deader than Elvis by the time they get back.
Never mind exactly how the wave caught them, but it did.
Never mind exactly how the wave caught them, but it did.
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Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 02:16
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I can't see it happening. Shepard is dead/dying at the end. The likely hood of the fleet finding her is 0. In theory the CDF might be able to find her if they were looking, but it also very unlikely as nobody even knows where that area of the Citadel is. I doubt they could save her even if they found her.
That is why I go with no, we will not be taking Shep out of the rubble, and there will be no reunion.
That is why I go with no, we will not be taking Shep out of the rubble, and there will be no reunion.
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Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 02:22
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Maybe another N7 soldier saves him/her. Maybe James wearing N7 armor is who did it.
That's not the Citadel....
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Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 02:24
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Did you honestly think you killed him?
You may thank him for saving your life now.
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Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 02:32
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Shepard is trodden on by a keeper and killed.
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Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 02:48
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I think that you're supposed to ignore all of that (that's being stupidly negative according to some) and apparently just go with what the intention of the writers was supposed to be. It happens a lot in ME3, it annoys me a lot in ME3, and it annoys me that some people are more than happy to go along with it. Of course it happens in the other games too but it's easier to overlook if there's less of it, it has less overall impact, and you're enjoying the ride anyway (flaws in Tuchanka and Rannoch are less bothering because of that sort of thing).Dr_Extrem wrote...
ok .. a little bit of nit picking .. (not on your post)
1. the file says shepard lives
2. the li hesitates to put the plaque on the wall
3. shepard takes a single breath
1. datamining is not a creditable source for information .. its just a filename
2. the li knows that anderson is dead and that shepard is presumed dead - how do you know that anderson is dead, because they found his body. what about shepard? somehow they must have got the information, that shepard is KIA and not just MIA. you do not put the name of a missing person on a memorial wall.
we can assume, that someone found some remains of shepard on the citadel. could not have been the dog tags .. and shepard does not wear a helmet on the citadel.
maybe because they found something in london? if yes, then they would have no reason to search the citadel for shepard.
the whole scene is not thought out and full of logical errors.
3. shepard survives the blast, takes a deep breath and may even get back on his/her feet. the problem is, that shep is presumed dead - the crew on the normandy has a qed and is most likely in contact with hackett, who confirms, that anderson is dead (nameplate) and that shepard in dead or presumed dead (nameplate). so even if shepard lives, nobody will search for him/her, because shep is presumed KIA. in addition, nobody knows, where shepard lands after the explosion .. the citadel is a big place. even if they know where shep was during the blast - where did he/she land?
you do not search for the body of a presumed dead person - even if it is the savior of the universe. you take care of the wounded and dying.
edit - I forgot "It's obvious that he lives and you shouldn't need your hand holding and everything spelled out for you."
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Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 02:51
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Probably a Martian Cyborg Death Squad. Dressed as 'sexy nuns'. Trolololo, they gunna kill him dead!
'But there were no Martians in Mass Effect!'
Duh. Mac Walters is on the case as we speak.
'But there were no Martians in Mass Effect!'
Duh. Mac Walters is on the case as we speak.
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Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 02:59
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o Ventus wrote...
Miranda.
She has to find her sister first,
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Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 03:01
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Dr_Extrem wrote...
ok .. a little bit of nit picking .. (not on your post)
1. the file says shepard lives
2. the li hesitates to put the plaque on the wall
3. shepard takes a single breath
1. datamining is not a creditable source for information .. its just a filename
Further more, it only says Shepard lives which we already knew in game since, you know, you don't take a breathe if you're dead. It says nothing about Shepard *surviving*.
2. the li knows that anderson is dead and that shepard is presumed dead - how do you know that anderson is dead, because they found his body. what about shepard? somehow they must have got the information, that shepard is KIA and not just MIA. you do not put the name of a missing person on a memorial wall.
we can assume, that someone found some remains of shepard on the citadel. could not have been the dog tags .. and shepard does not wear a helmet on the citadel.
maybe because they found something in london? if yes, then they would have no reason to search the citadel for shepard.
the whole scene is not thought out and full of logical errors.
3. shepard survives the blast, takes a deep breath and may even get back on his/her feet. the problem is, that shep is presumed dead - the crew on the normandy has a qed and is most likely in contact with hackett, who confirms, that anderson is dead (nameplate) and that shepard in dead or presumed dead (nameplate). so even if shepard lives, nobody will search for him/her, because shep is presumed KIA. in addition, nobody knows, where shepard lands after the explosion .. the citadel is a big place. even if they know where shep was during the blast - where did he/she land?
I'm pretty sure the Catalyst says all technology would be affected in the blast. That would probably affect Ship's QEC. Just sayin'.
you do not search for the body of a presumed dead person - even if it is the savior of the universe. you take care of the wounded and dying.
Yup.
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Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 03:11
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God the more I read this **** the more depressed I get
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Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 03:24
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shep is on earth, anyone could find him
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Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 03:28
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spirosz wrote...
o Ventus wrote...
Miranda.
She has to find her sister first,
Wait a minute... So Shepard isn't Oriana?
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Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 03:37
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shep is on earth, anyone could find him
Well, good to know Shepard developed the ability to survive re-entry then.
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Probably a Martian Cyborg Death Squad. Dressed as 'sexy nuns'. Trolololo, they gunna kill him dead!
'But there were no Martians in Mass Effect!'
Duh. Mac Walters is on the case as we speak.
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Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 03:43
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the citadel isnt made of contreteTiconderoga117 wrote...
Samtheman63 wrote...
shep is on earth, anyone could find him
Well, good to know Shepard developed the ability to survive re-entry then.
the leader of the reapers isnt a 8 year old kid
electricuting youself doesnt turn you into an AI god
shepard isnt stupid enough to stand right infront of something that he himself is blowing up
the ending isnt real, shepard never made it to the citadel
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Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 03:48
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Anderson.
We'll be in London.
Crucible was never used.
Reapers are still out there.
We'll be in London.
Crucible was never used.
Reapers are still out there.
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Well.
Earth, if it has any functional craft, will be centered around recovery of the local populations so, any Earth based help is out of the question.
The fleet, if they used the Relay to exit the system will be many days away from returning making them useless.
The fleet, if they just went FTL to get the frack outta dodge, will stay away until recon vessels verify the Reaper threat is gone. This wasting days in travel time.
Meanwhile, Shepard, whose injuries were severe and whose cybernetic implants might not be functioning at all, slowly bleeds out and dies. Cold. Painfully. Alone.
Yep. Just the way I like my games. Uplifting and fun.
Earth, if it has any functional craft, will be centered around recovery of the local populations so, any Earth based help is out of the question.
The fleet, if they used the Relay to exit the system will be many days away from returning making them useless.
The fleet, if they just went FTL to get the frack outta dodge, will stay away until recon vessels verify the Reaper threat is gone. This wasting days in travel time.
Meanwhile, Shepard, whose injuries were severe and whose cybernetic implants might not be functioning at all, slowly bleeds out and dies. Cold. Painfully. Alone.
Yep. Just the way I like my games. Uplifting and fun.
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Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 03:52
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Samtheman63 wrote...
the citadel isnt made of contrete
the leader of the reapers isnt a 8 year old kid
electricuting youself doesnt turn you into an AI god
shepard isnt stupid enough to stand right infront of something that he himself is blowing up
the ending isnt real, shepard never made it to the citadel
All of that is possible when you don't care about good story and just want to deliver a message!
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Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 04:01
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The trilogy never happened, it is just a story for kids told by old men.
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Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 04:01
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Killdren88 wrote...
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He bleeds out before anyone even realizes he's still alive. Fun times.
So they wasted those resources for the Breath just to troll us?
You ever see the perfect ending of Star Wars Shadows of the Empire? Do everything right, get all the points, etc, and you get a clip at the end showing Dash Rendar is alive.
Also at the end of Halo 3, IIRC, Master Chief was presumed dead and shown alive.
In The Dark Knight Rises, Batman is believed to have died when the warhead went off. Only to be shown alive in Florence with Selena Kyle.
It's a common plot element in fiction. Everybody is made to believe the the hero has died because of X circumstance, but is really alive because of Y reason.
In this case, the circumstance is the explosion of the thermal conduit in the Catalyst's chamber. And the reason he's alive is because the Crucible's pulse wasn't deadly enough to affect his implants.
Also common sense: if the Crucible's energy was enough to kill Shepard because of his synthetic implants, Tali and Garrus would be dead too. Quarians are modded to interface with their suits, and Garrus needed several cybernetics implanted in ME2 because of being shot up by a gunship and taking a rocket in the face.
