I have barely posted on this forum but I love the games that you guys make. After seeing all the spam covering your facebook and twitter and other social networks regarding the Connecticut shooting, I'm glad to see that it hasn't reached here. I can imagine the amount of crazy misguided hate mail you guys will probably receive from ignorant people as well. I just wanted to post this just to say that you guys are awesome and the games you make are deep, thought provoking, and some of the most meaningful in the market. I'm sorry for the igorance of others and how quickly the media jumps to conclusions. I hope that none of this discourages any member of BioWare. The game industry should not be taking any heat at all for something like this, especially a company that pushes for moral thinking through their games.
Thank you for doing what you do and I believe that I speak for all of us here when I say we love your work. Keep doing what you're doing. :happy:
The Media's Ignorance
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Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 09:55
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NOH! AINT IT OBVIUS?!!!!!
killr of 20 kids' brothr lieks biowear gamez? obviusley, taht maens biowear is bad peeplz! KILL IT WIT FIER!
/sarcasm
killr of 20 kids' brothr lieks biowear gamez? obviusley, taht maens biowear is bad peeplz! KILL IT WIT FIER!
/sarcasm
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Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 10:07
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The media gets stuff wrong all the time, I'm more annoyed by the idiots who slurp it up and then charge full bore onto the internets with all their righteous indignation without bothering to verify anything. So then the brother who didn't have anything to do with it got death threats and everything.
Really this is the uglier side of social media tbh.
As far as Mass Effect goes, granted, even if the shooter did happen to like Mass Effect, any hate directed toward it would be complete nonsense.
Really this is the uglier side of social media tbh.
As far as Mass Effect goes, granted, even if the shooter did happen to like Mass Effect, any hate directed toward it would be complete nonsense.
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Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 10:44
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Within hours after the incident, Fox News started to point to violent video games as the cause.
F*ck you Fox News for politicizing even tragedy like this.
Why just why?
F*ck you Fox News for politicizing even tragedy like this.
Why just why?
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Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 11:02
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Any Mass Effect critic is welcomed *sides with Fox*
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Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 11:19
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Savber100 wrote...
Within hours after the incident, Fox News started to point to violent video games as the cause.
F*ck you Fox News for politicizing even tragedy like this.
Why just why?
Fox News should be banned. Not banned from anything in particular, just banned in general.
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Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 03:05
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It's just horrible what happened and that the kids can't rest in peace. What people never realize in these situations are that these are tragic deaths rather than political springboards. I think everyone should just shut up and leave the families at peace. That probably won't happen though, the media will find a way to blame everyone over the course of the next few weeks then the "surprisng" truth that the shooter(s) were just crazy or extremely unstable will come out.
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Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 03:17
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The Mad Hanar wrote...
It's just horrible what happened and that the kids can't rest in peace. What people never realize in these situations are that these are tragic deaths rather than political springboards. I think everyone should just shut up and leave the families at peace. That probably won't happen though, the media will find a way to blame everyone over the course of the next few weeks then the "surprisng" truth that the shooter(s) were just crazy or extremely unstable will come out.
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Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 03:37
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The Mad Hanar wrote...
It's just horrible what happened and that the kids can't rest in peace. What people never realize in these situations are that these are tragic deaths rather than political springboards. I think everyone should just shut up and leave the families at peace. That probably won't happen though, the media will find a way to blame everyone over the course of the next few weeks then the "surprisng" truth that the shooter(s) were just crazy or extremely unstable will come out.
I have tried not to comment on it on social networks because we had similar event here in Scotland and its one of the most horrible things that can happen to a community. However the media difference today borders on the vulger and exploitative. Interviewing 5 & 6 year old witnesses on news is disgusting, let them grieve, they don't understand what's happening leave them alone.
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Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 04:40
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bob_20000 wrote...
NOH! AINT IT OBVIUS?!!!!!
killr of 20 kids' brothr lieks biowear gamez? obviusley, taht maens biowear is bad peeplz! KILL IT WIT FIER!
/sarcasm
blame the Starchild
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Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 05:17
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It's not just the media's fault. Crowd harassment on social media wouldn't work if people didn't go along with something so stupid and banal.
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Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 05:52
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It's not the media sending the hate mail/comments, you guys are right. It's the ignorant mobs. People should be incredibly upset over this tragedy because it is horrific. And it doesn't make sense and it's difficult to come up with an explanation of how someone could possibly commit such a horrible act but it's idiotic when they just pick a scapegoat like they did and the entire situation does become a springboard rather than just an tragic event. Everyone is too quick to point fingers when the only thing responsible for the crime was a man and a sick one at that. It wasn't even his facebook that they used. Goes to show how much research went into all of this. It isn't just the media's ignorance, it's everyone's.
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Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 06:07
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Fox news using tragedy to drum up their own beliefs? Yeah that is nothing new.
They start by attacking violent games and talking about how it drove the shooter to do what he did, when people disagree you tell them that they are supporting and standing up for terrorism and essentially by disagreeing your saying what the shooter did was right, then when the victims family's disagree you tell them how they're now dead relatives would be sickened that they are "standing up" for the person who killed their loved ones.
Honestly.... This whole thing is a tragedy, TMH is right, let the family mourn and leave them in peace. It takes a truly disgusting group of people to use tragedy to further your own political intolerance.
They start by attacking violent games and talking about how it drove the shooter to do what he did, when people disagree you tell them that they are supporting and standing up for terrorism and essentially by disagreeing your saying what the shooter did was right, then when the victims family's disagree you tell them how they're now dead relatives would be sickened that they are "standing up" for the person who killed their loved ones.
Honestly.... This whole thing is a tragedy, TMH is right, let the family mourn and leave them in peace. It takes a truly disgusting group of people to use tragedy to further your own political intolerance.
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Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 06:12
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It's not just Fox News, every channel does it. And I had my Twitter feed fill up with gun control advocates politicking. The media is us, they do what we want.
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Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 06:21
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In the morning it was pretty angering to see they were already after the spin, the media is a classless bunch. But I was kind of shocked later when MassEffect3 was quickly blamed. Its suspicious, that came about to quick. I got a strange feeling that angry fans are taking advantage of the media's stupidity to hurt Bioware over the game, I don't see why else it would be singled out.
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Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 06:30
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Neoleviathan wrote...
In the morning it was pretty angering to see they were already after the spin, the media is a classless bunch. But I was kind of shocked later when MassEffect3 was quickly blamed. Its suspicious, that came about to quick. I got a strange feeling that angry fans are taking advantage of the media's stupidity to hurt Bioware over the game, I don't see why else it would be singled out.
pretty much this. I doubt normal people would be stupid enough to think that a video game caused the murder.
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Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 06:38
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suntzuxi wrote...
Neoleviathan wrote...
In the morning it was pretty angering to see they were already after the spin, the media is a classless bunch. But I was kind of shocked later when MassEffect3 was quickly blamed. Its suspicious, that came about to quick. I got a strange feeling that angry fans are taking advantage of the media's stupidity to hurt Bioware over the game, I don't see why else it would be singled out.
pretty much this. I doubt normal people would be stupid enough to think that a video game caused the murder.
Stupidity, hysteria or anger. Really, that's what would cause all of this. In this time of instant information and communication people will often get information, speak on it without thinking then feel foolish after figuring out that what they said wasn't enitirely correct because the information was incomplete or flat out wrong. The news stations should have never released the guys name and people should not of gone on that guys Facebook. What do they think that's going to accomplish? Do they think that the guy is going to actually read all of their comments? Or do they get off on knowing that it's going to hurt the guys family? People react too quickly and think too little.
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Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 06:45
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Why would someone upset about the endings want to use ME3 as the excuse to why this happened? That hurts all gaming in general, not just Bioware.
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Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 06:55
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People should stop giving it so much attention. Do you realize in the scheme of things what happened on Facebook is such a miniscule thing? Even in this boy's life, after everything that happened, it's a drop in the ocean. FFS, he lost his brother and his mother and forever in society is going to be known as 'that killer's brother'. He could turn off his computer and those things will still be fact.
You know what gets me? It's that this is the thing that upsets some people. That Bioware has gotten bad publicity. Never mind the media's gross and horrendous exploitation of the children both dead and alive. Or the fact that political agendas are over-shadowing this tragedy. Or the fact that american schools are so under-funded that having things like patrol officers, metal detectors and other preventive measures that could save lives will be one more thing swept under the rug--or the fact that schools even need those things. No, no. Let's get outraged because media is blaming video games and Facebook went on a mob hunt.
Furthermore, why is anyone still surprised by anything that asinine news channel does? Turn it off, encourage your friends and family to do the same. That is what hurts them. Not people talking about it and giving these rejects even more fame because of it.
You know what gets me? It's that this is the thing that upsets some people. That Bioware has gotten bad publicity. Never mind the media's gross and horrendous exploitation of the children both dead and alive. Or the fact that political agendas are over-shadowing this tragedy. Or the fact that american schools are so under-funded that having things like patrol officers, metal detectors and other preventive measures that could save lives will be one more thing swept under the rug--or the fact that schools even need those things. No, no. Let's get outraged because media is blaming video games and Facebook went on a mob hunt.
Furthermore, why is anyone still surprised by anything that asinine news channel does? Turn it off, encourage your friends and family to do the same. That is what hurts them. Not people talking about it and giving these rejects even more fame because of it.
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Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 07:30
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Savber100 wrote...
Within hours after the incident, Fox News started to point to violent video games as the cause.
F*ck you Fox News for politicizing even tragedy like this.
Why just why?
You're kidding, right? They all do it, in some way or another.
Fox is no better or worse than any other.
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Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 07:39
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The gun control angle was brought up immediately despite CT's sizable number of firearms laws and Fox News is the one guilty of politicizing the issue? Really?
Yes ban Fox and leave us with only horribly biased liberal media outlets. Great thinking there bob. That whole 1st Amendment thing shouldn't count for those people, right?
Yes ban Fox and leave us with only horribly biased liberal media outlets. Great thinking there bob. That whole 1st Amendment thing shouldn't count for those people, right?
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Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 09:03
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I don't think thing video games should be banned or censored in ways more significant than what is already being done.
Having said that, can anyone in this thread honestly argue that it is ridiculous or absurd notion to suggest stuff like modern FPS games couldn't potentially greatly reduce disturbed person's threshold to shoot up his school or such?
Having said that, can anyone in this thread honestly argue that it is ridiculous or absurd notion to suggest stuff like modern FPS games couldn't potentially greatly reduce disturbed person's threshold to shoot up his school or such?
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Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 10:20
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LTD wrote...
I don't think thing video games should be banned or censored in ways more significant than what is already being done.
Having said that, can anyone in this thread honestly argue that it is ridiculous or absurd notion to suggest stuff like modern FPS games couldn't potentially greatly reduce disturbed person's threshold to shoot up his school or such?
I don't recall shooting up schools in Black Ops 2, so yeah I would argue that.
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Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 10:26
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I don't recall shooting up schools in Black Ops 2, so yeah I would argue that.
Please, dude. I've not played a Cod since the first two, but even I know about "No Russian."
iot doesn't have to be in every game for it to be too far.
