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Be honest, if you have a Harrier X and a Valkryie whatever....would you ever use the Valkyrie?


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mrcanada wrote...

If you have a Harrier X, there's little reason to use any other weapon. It's undoubtedly the best weapon in the game. 


I use the GPR more than any other AR.

M-77 for pistols

Hurricane for SMGS

Black Widow/M-98 SRs

Claymore and/or Waith Shotguns.

Learn to play, weapons are not everything.

Check my Mainfest if you wish.

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Lord_Sirian wrote...

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The Valkyrie is the second best non-ramp-up AR in the game.

Stardusk is prejudiced.

No it's not.

The mattock is, or the saber if you're good with headshots.

Mattock is for those with magical fingers and/or auto-click macros.

Saber is a POS that fires every two years. I will never use it over my Valkyrie II.

 

While I despise the saber, I could never think of it that way when I saw Jay use it the other day:? 

It was scary. Even Stentron was terrified.


Ditto. Was it on a Quarian Marksman?

Modifié par ISHYGDDT, 15 décembre 2012 - 03:59 .


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Lord_Sirian wrote...

Yeah like I said, I hate the Saber.

I'm just not willing to call it rubbish after seeing Jay use it. I class a weapon as genuinely rubbish if Jay can't outscore me while using it.

It's why I think the Hornet, CSMG, Valkyrie, Argus are rubbish when a lot of people defend them.


Well I score less with the Valkyrie than with the Saber myself. But at least the Valkyrie doesn't get me killed every couple of waves.

There is no UR/Promotional I detest as much as the Saber. I even like the Crusader better - at least the Crusader is honest, having only 4 shots per clip. The Saber is just mocking me with its 8 shots per clip which I'm never able to empty without needing to go back to cover. Whoever designed the Saber needs to DIAF.

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ZoM_Head wrote...

I use the GPR more than any other AR.

Me too. But that's because Geth Engineer is my favorite class. ^_^

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iOnlySignIn wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Yeah like I said, I hate the Saber.

I'm just not willing to call it rubbish after seeing Jay use it. I class a weapon as genuinely rubbish if Jay can't outscore me while using it.

It's why I think the Hornet, CSMG, Valkyrie, Argus are rubbish when a lot of people defend them.


Well I score less with the Valkyrie than with the Saber myself. But at least the Valkyrie doesn't get me killed every couple of waves.

There is no UR/Promotional I detest as much as the Saber. I even like the Crusader better - at least the Crusader is honest, having only 4 shots per clip. The Saber is just mocking me with its 8 shots per clip which I'm never able to empty without needing to go back to cover. Whoever designed the Saber needs to DIAF.


I don't think it's the weapon that's getting you killed.

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ISHYGDDT wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...

MastahDisastah wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...

The Valkyrie is the second best non-ramp-up AR in the game.

Stardusk is prejudiced.

No it's not.

The mattock is, or the saber if you're good with headshots.

Mattock is for those with magical fingers and/or auto-click macros.

Saber is a POS that fires every two years. I will never use it over my Valkyrie II.

 

While I despise the saber, I could never think of it that way when I saw Jay use it the other day:? 

It was scary. Even Stentron was terrified.


Ditto. Was it on a Quarian Marksman?

 

Yeah it was, the funny thing is... the first game I ever played with Jay, he used the Saber on a GE. I was also using a GE... and I outscored him. :?

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ZoM_Head wrote...

mrcanada wrote...

If you have a Harrier X, there's little reason to use any other weapon. It's undoubtedly the best weapon in the game. 


I use the GPR more than any other AR.

M-77 for pistols

Hurricane for SMGS

Black Widow/M-98 SRs

Claymore and/or Waith Shotguns.

Learn to play, weapons are not everything.

Check my Mainfest if you wish.


Congratulations on using weaker weapons? I use others as well, doesn't mean the Harrier isn't the most powerful. Take your irrelevant LTP comment and beat it.

Modifié par mrcanada, 15 décembre 2012 - 04:02 .


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Well I score less with the Valkyrie than with the Saber myself. But at least the Valkyrie doesn't get me killed every couple of waves.

There is no UR/Promotional I detest as much as the Saber. I even like the Crusader better - at least the Crusader is honest, having only 4 shots per clip. The Saber is just mocking me with its 8 shots per clip which I'm never able to empty without needing to go back to cover. Whoever designed the Saber needs to DIAF.


I don't think it's the weapon that's getting you killed.


Show me a video of you using the Saber then. Without Marksman. I'm happy to learn.

Modifié par iOnlySignIn, 15 décembre 2012 - 04:04 .


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Lord_Sirian wrote...

mrcanada wrote...

If you have a Harrier X, there's little reason to use any other weapon. It's undoubtedly the best weapon in the game. 

 

:mellow: Not sure if trolling.


Level for level you don't think the Harrier is the best weapon in the game? Personally I don't use it much either because it's easy mode. Outside of the PR, I can't think of another weapon that instantly makes any class godlike. Javelin is this, but you can't put it on everything. Claymore? Sure. No weapon matches the range and damage it can put out from what I can see.

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iOnlySignIn wrote...

mrcanada wrote...

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Well I score less with the Valkyrie than with the Saber myself. But at least the Valkyrie doesn't get me killed every couple of waves.

There is no UR/Promotional I detest as much as the Saber. I even like the Crusader better - at least the Crusader is honest, having only 4 shots per clip. The Saber is just mocking me with its 8 shots per clip which I'm never able to empty without needing to go back to cover. Whoever designed the Saber needs to DIAF.


I don't think it's the weapon that's getting you killed.


Show me a video of you using the Saber then. Without Marksman. I'm happy to learn.


I don't have a video capturing card, but I have it at X and use it juuuuusssttttt fine and none of my Marksmen kits utilize it.

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mrcanada wrote...

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Show me a video of you using the Saber then. Without Marksman. I'm happy to learn.


I don't have a video capturing card, but I have it at X and use it juuuuusssttttt fine and none of my Marksmen kits utilize it.


How exactly do you use it for it to be juuuuusssttttt fine?

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mrcanada wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

mrcanada wrote...

If you have a Harrier X, there's little reason to use any other weapon. It's undoubtedly the best weapon in the game. 

 

:mellow: Not sure if trolling.


Level for level you don't think the Harrier is the best weapon in the game? Personally I don't use it much either because it's easy mode. Outside of the PR, I can't think of another weapon that instantly makes any class godlike. Javelin is this, but you can't put it on everything. Claymore? Sure. No weapon matches the range and damage it can put out from what I can see.

 

Different weapons fill different roles. 

But the Hurricane, PPR, Talon, Scorpion, Claymore, Raider, Javelin, Black Widow, CSR are are all just as good as the Harrier. Some of them are arguably better. And some are DEFINITELY better at performing other roles.

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mrcanada wrote...

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Show me a video of you using the Saber then. Without Marksman. I'm happy to learn.


I don't have a video capturing card, but I have it at X and use it juuuuusssttttt fine and none of my Marksmen kits utilize it.


How exactly do you use it for it to be juuuuusssttttt fine?

 

I'm sure he scores 150k in U/U/G PUG's with it. ;)

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I have a Valkyrie 1 and i would pick it over my Harrier 3 any time, i can't stand that guns non existent ammo capacity.
Not that i use either of those very often, but still.
Also lol at the Saber hate, it's an amazing gun, especially fun on the human soldier as with adrush you never have to reload(still not as funny as pressing down the trigger on GPSMG at the start of the wave 1 and letting it go after extraction.

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If I had a Valkryrie X, hell yes I would.

I don't enjoy being tethered to an ammo crate all match, and 856 DPS is good enough.

The stats suggest the Valkyrie will be an excellent, well balanced weapon at level X. The only thing wrong with it is that it's a promotional weapon and no one has it at level X. If it was a Rare, the gun would be perfect.

Modifié par OniGanon, 15 décembre 2012 - 05:19 .


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Eh, sure. All the damned time. The "I win everything" combos and weapons are only fun so long.


QFT

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I like the Valkyrie 2-rounds-burst, it feels a lot more controllable that the harrier

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I have a Harrier X and it's so damn good that I've yet to even fire a single shot with my Valkyrie III.

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Saber trades boss killing ability for exceptional mook killing potential. That's why I always pair it with Hurricane or Piranha if I don't have Marksman. I wouldn't complain if they increased the base rate of fire though.

Also on-topic yes the Valkyrie sucks. I suspect Bioware believes it is balanced because of the high ammo capacity. Unfortunately with ammo boxes everywhere high ammo capacity is never worth trading for dps.

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I like my Valkyrie I much more than my Harrier IV. I don't care if it's less efficient. I can play with it on Gold and I'm happy.

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How much difference does each level make anyway?

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It completely depends on the character, my build, and how I play them.

I only have a Harrier 2 after ages and ages of playing the multiplayer, and the only character I use it on is my Demolisher. And it is perfect on her. In-fact, with my Hurricane 7 (recent) and setups in her powers over health, she is setup very much perfectly for me. Mobile, hard hitting. Great at a distance but still deadly up close.

When I use the Harrier on other characters, they do decent damage, but I spend far too much time running for ammo over killing the enemy. And it completely kills my caster builds powers.

I'm not sure at the moment if I have a Valkryie or not, but if I do, I would find the character it fits best and work with it.

Much like how I found my Argus 10 works best for my Turian Saboteur. With a stability mod of course.

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I'd actually prefer the Valkyrie. Harrier is overused.

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If you have a Harrier X besides weight why look at anything else?

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I have a Harrier X, and I use it all the time. I like automatic Assault Rifles. I dislike burst-fire ARs.