Be honest, if you have a Harrier X and a Valkryie whatever....would you ever use the Valkyrie?
#101
Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 07:32
#102
Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 07:48
My Valkryie is only at 3, and that gun has more variety in weapons mods. I.E. I can use an omniblade, and extended barrel. The harrier requires the ammo mod, so only one slot to play with.
I honestly have enjoyed running the Valkryie on the krentinel, Turrians, and the destroyer. It's different and I don't have to keep running to ammo boxes.
#103
Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 07:52
#104
Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 07:58
3rd-apex wrote...
I will out score people that use Harriers with a vindicator because I am really good at landing consistent head shots with burst weapons. Valkyrie would win every time with me.
And if the people using Harriers/PPRs are good at landing headshots?
That's why the Valkyrie is not as good as the Typhoon/PPR/Harrier.
#105
Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 07:59
#106
Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 08:03
Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...
3rd-apex wrote...
I will out score people that use Harriers with a vindicator because I am really good at landing consistent head shots with burst weapons. Valkyrie would win every time with me.
And if the people using Harriers/PPRs are good at landing headshots?
That's why the Valkyrie is not as good as the Typhoon/PPR/Harrier.
Honestly, you don't count Jay.
#107
Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 08:06
Stardusk wrote...
Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...
3rd-apex wrote...
I will out score people that use Harriers with a vindicator because I am really good at landing consistent head shots with burst weapons. Valkyrie would win every time with me.
And if the people using Harriers/PPRs are good at landing headshots?
That's why the Valkyrie is not as good as the Typhoon/PPR/Harrier.
Honestly, you don't count Jay.
My point still stands. At same skill level, the player taking a Harrier/Typhoon/PPR will do better with those ARs than with a Valkyrie.
Modifié par Jay_Hoxtatron, 15 décembre 2012 - 08:10 .
#108
Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 08:08
Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...
Stardusk wrote...
Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...
3rd-apex wrote...
I will out score people that use Harriers with a vindicator because I am really good at landing consistent head shots with burst weapons. Valkyrie would win every time with me.
And if the people using Harriers/PPRs are good at landing headshots?
That's why the Valkyrie is not as good as the Typhoon/PPR/Harrier.
Honestly, you don't count Jay.
My point still stands. At same skill level, the player taking a Harrier/Typhoon/PPR will do better than with those ARs than with a Valkyrie.
Yeah, I also don't see how Jay's cyborg implants have anything to do with this. If you can headshot with a valkyrie, you can headshot with a Harrier/Typhoon/PPR (or probably even a Saber) and do better.
#109
Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 08:08
Never touch the Valkyrie.
#110
Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 08:09
Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...
Stardusk wrote...
Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...
3rd-apex wrote...
I will out score people that use Harriers with a vindicator because I am really good at landing consistent head shots with burst weapons. Valkyrie would win every time with me.
And if the people using Harriers/PPRs are good at landing headshots?
That's why the Valkyrie is not as good as the Typhoon/PPR/Harrier.
Honestly, you don't count Jay.
My point still stands. At same skill level, the player taking a Harrier/Typhoon/PPR will do better than with those ARs than with a Valkyrie.
I hate the Valkyrie. I would take the PPR, Harrier and Typhoon (in that order) over it any day, but then again I am just a human being.
#111
Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 08:20
#112
Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 08:24
#113
Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 08:27
#114
Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 08:40
#115
Guest_Lord_Sirian_*
Posté 15 décembre 2012 - 11:43
Guest_Lord_Sirian_*
tyhw wrote...
Steppdaddy2 wrote...
I mean, yes the harrier can obviously dish out some great damage- but man it is a boring gun to use.
To answer your question Star, Yes I would. Although my harrier is IX and I don't have a Valk, I prefer the Typhoon, PPR, and especially the Saber (IMO best assault rifle). I think gun mechanics are what make using weapons fun.
The difference is that the Typhoon, PPR, and Saber are all objectively excellent weapons. The Valkyrie is not. In addition, those guns function very differently than the Harrier. The Valkyrie is directly comparable to the Harrier, with similar damage per shot, clip size, and accuracy. The difference is that the Valkyrie has a much lower effective fire rate than the Harrier in exchange for spare ammo. In addition, you need to spam the trigger (annoying to most people)
To use the Valkyrie over the Harrier is like using the Mattock over the Harrier. You can do okay with it, but it is very clearly the inferior option.
QFT. Well said.
#116
Posté 16 décembre 2012 - 12:08
Lord_Sirian wrote...
iOnlySignIn wrote...
mrcanada wrote...
iOnlySignIn wrote...
Show me a video of you using the Saber then. Without Marksman. I'm happy to learn.
I don't have a video capturing card, but I have it at X and use it juuuuusssttttt fine and none of my Marksmen kits utilize it.
How exactly do you use it for it to be juuuuusssttttt fine?
I'm sure he scores 150k in U/U/G PUG's with it.
How'd you know?
#117
Posté 16 décembre 2012 - 12:17
#118
Posté 16 décembre 2012 - 06:09
#119
Posté 16 décembre 2012 - 06:19
then again, ive never expected my URs to be good for gold before level 4-5, i dont expect them to be good before that.
i suppose since i have crap expectations for the gun i dont have anything to be let down about.
Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 16 décembre 2012 - 06:19 .
#120
Posté 16 décembre 2012 - 06:38
darkpassenger2342 wrote...
i refuse to use and judge this gun until its @ at least 6, i got the 2 this past weekend..
then again, ive never expected my URs to be good for gold before level 4-5, i dont expect them to be good before that.
i suppose since i have crap expectations for the gun i dont have anything to be let down about.
The Hurricane is quite good even at I.
I had expected the Valkyrie to be in its ranks but you might as well take the Mattock over it.
#121
Posté 16 décembre 2012 - 06:41
Harrier is effing torture with it's crappy ammo capacity, and questionable accuracy beyond a certain range at full auto.
Nothing really helps it's ammo. What's gear gunna do? Give you maybe one more clip you'll burn through almost instantly in any real combat?
The torture of it's assault rifle challenge was enough.
I'd rather use pretty much any other AR in the game over it. I don't care how fast the harrier kills if I can't leave an effing ammo box with any confidence I'll have to run straight to another ammo box.
But that's not to say the other ARs don't need any help. They do. It's just that the Harrier gets on my nerves, and that's personal preferrence.
#122
Posté 16 décembre 2012 - 06:47
tyhw wrote...
To use the Valkyrie over the Harrier is like using the Mattock over the Harrier. You can do okay with it, but it is very clearly the inferior option.
So when I go into a match with people that have the Harrier X and finish with twice their score and only 1 or 0 deaths that is showing my Mattock as the inferior option?
Modifié par Mailak, 16 décembre 2012 - 06:55 .
#123
Posté 16 décembre 2012 - 06:50
#124
Posté 16 décembre 2012 - 06:55
Though I also took my Vindicator into Gold.
Why? Variety.
It's the spice of life.
#125
Posté 16 décembre 2012 - 06:56
But...I prefer Hurricane > everything else lol





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