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This thread is a rape of common sense.

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This entire thread:


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GreatBlueHeron wrote...

And that problem is rape jokes.  Seriously not funny and offensive as hell.  And you let this stay on the boards.  There are people who post here, not just women, who have been sexually abused.  If you want to be this progressive company that you purport to be, you'll smack the ish out of this and keep it down.  There aren't just cis white males posting here...and guess what, we don't think rape jokes are totes funny.


I would flame you, but...

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improvisionist wrote...

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There's some issues you just don't touch, rape is one of them.


but diz is teh interneeeeet, where i'm allowed to be as offensive as i whant.

you gotta relax brosis! you're not allowed to be offended by my tasteless jokes.


Freedom of speech. You don't have to like what others say, you can be offended if you like. But that still is not going to stop them, or me, from posting stuff like that.

What is the point of "freedom" if it is limited to what someone has chosen.

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

There's some issues you just don't touch, rape is one of them.


Thats just your opinion. There exists no law against off color rape jokes. Murder and cannibalism are just as bad as rape, and these subjects are integral parts of this game. Sorry, but unless you are trolling you are only trying to promote your own moralism to a global truth.

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The word rape has been trivialized so much and used as an expression of revenge so often that the real meaning is being pushed aside by childish people. It's a topic that needs respect and should not be used for humor.

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poor kids and their inability to handle social banter, don't worry bro i called his mommy and she is gonna give him a whuppin :P

edit: also i called every rapper who ever used the N words mother so they could get whuppins too

and i called every persons mother who ever said anything that offended you (which is likely every word ever spoken to you) and they are all getting whuppins.

Butt Whuppins for every offensive comment ever made ever in the history of the world... yaaay.

lol yeah i feel like i've been mentally raped by this thread... :o

Modifié par DeadeyeCYclops78, 15 décembre 2012 - 07:13 .


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KalilKareem wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

There's some issues you just don't touch, rape is one of them.


Thats just your opinion. There exists no law against off color rape jokes. Murder and cannibalism are just as bad as rape, and these subjects are integral parts of this game. Sorry, but unless you are trolling you are only trying to promote your own moralism to a global truth.


Rape is a highly sensitive issue, this is not opinion.

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.458 wrote...

The word rape has been trivialized so much and used as an expression of revenge so often that the real meaning is being pushed aside by childish people. It's a topic that needs respect and should not be used for humor.


internet needs more people like this.

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blaaaaaaaaaarg wrote...

OneTrueShot wrote...

To add to my above point, if I stated 'my team was massacred by Cerberus', would that be out of taste because of the recent school massacre or would it just be another word?

No. Why? Because it's a word.


Well said, OTS. I still don't like either side of this debate, though.


actually yes it would be out of taste because we have words that reflect the severity of actions. Massacre in a video game?  That is a poor choice of words. But it is allowed because terms of violence permeate our society outside of where violence actually exists.  

Rape sticks out due to its sexual referencing which in turn brings about an even more personal level than say massacre. 

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"Comedy isn't really about being nice. Sometimes it's a way to air out the ugly things people think."

- Jeff "Joker" Moreau, 2186 CE

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Airealite wrote...

"Comedy isn't really about being nice. Sometimes it's a way to air out the ugly things people think."

- Jeff "Joker" Moreau, 2186 CE



great quote.  But I don't see how getting psuedo- harassed in a video(game) legitimately leads someone to think "I was raped"

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himohillo wrote...
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Freedom of speech. You don't have to like what others say, you can be offended if you like. But that still is not going to stop them, or me, from posting stuff like that.

What is the point of "freedom" if it is limited to what someone has chosen.


There is no freedom of speech here.  This is a company's privately owned board.. you can say what they decide is OK, and that's that.

I'm honestly shocked either of these threads are still standing..

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

KalilKareem wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

There's some issues you just don't touch, rape is one of them.


Thats just your opinion. There exists no law against off color rape jokes. Murder and cannibalism are just as bad as rape, and these subjects are integral parts of this game. Sorry, but unless you are trolling you are only trying to promote your own moralism to a global truth.


Rape is a highly sensitive issue, this is not opinion.


Sensitive issues also include...

Murder - Don't make jokes about taking lives or imply anything of it.
Religion - Never mention God or lack of a God.
Politics - Don't mention Obama or Romney or anything political.
Homosexuals - Don't ask don't tell.
Animal Abuse - Beating a dead horse is now a bannable phrase.
Special Needs - Don't insult anyones intelligence it's offensive to my mentally disabled cousin.
Race - Never mention any form of stereotype or refer to any race other than the politically (haha) correct term

Just to name a few...

You cannot have selecting policing especially on the internet. If you see something that offends you personally report it and move on. If it is deemed to be over the top let the moderators handle it. This act is as pathetic as those Facebook people blaming Mass Effect for the murders yesterday. No one is promoting rape here and no one is trying to make a joke of it. You are being overly sensitive.

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

KalilKareem wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

There's some issues you just don't touch, rape is one of them.


Thats just your opinion. There exists no law against off color rape jokes. Murder and cannibalism are just as bad as rape, and these subjects are integral parts of this game. Sorry, but unless you are trolling you are only trying to promote your own moralism to a global truth.


Rape is a highly sensitive issue, this is not opinion.


As a matter of fact it is. But it so happens that I agree, I also think it is a sensitive subject best left out of civilized communication. Your reaction to someone talking about someone else making jokes about rape is completely hyperbole however. And the statement that rape jokes is a major problem on BSN is both false and slightly ludicrous.

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To even have to use the word "overly" makes your otherwise notable point moot.

Why?

Becaus eyou acknowledge that it's a sensitive subject. Yet you dictate how sensitive someone should be.

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@kali

The problem doesn't seem to be the OP. it's the commenters' and their need to ALSO dictate what can be said on the Internet


Bioware could've nipped this in the bud but...

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I saw exactly one thread in which someone used the term 'rape,' and they weren't making a joke, just relaying an experience. The OP was a total dick about it in that thread, then chose to make another thread to specifically ****-talk others, and I guess to keep discussing rape for some ****ed up reason, because that's totally appropriate for BSN.

Despite what the OP says, not every victim of a sexual assault has a problem with the use of the word 'rape' to talk about things unrelated to sexual assault.

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Sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me.

ahh if only this were even remotely possible in today's world...soooooo many over sensitive people have completely ruined this old saying, and yes i would much rather beat them up and then scream a obscenity at them, and then politely ask which was worse.....:devil:

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Zero132132 wrote...

I saw exactly one thread in which someone used the term 'rape,' and they weren't making a joke, just relaying an experience. The OP was a total dick about it in that thread, then chose to make another thread to specifically ****-talk others, and I guess to keep discussing rape for some ****ed up reason, because that's totally appropriate for BSN.

Despite what the OP says, not every victim of a sexual assault has a problem with the use of the word 'rape' to talk about things unrelated to sexual assault.


Right on target here.  Except not everyone has a problem with cheating/griefing in a video game but people get banned.

The term "rape" could've been easily interchanged with the word violated. And problem solved.  

someone make a thread about getting a better vocabulary.

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OP, stop being a hypocrite.
Jokers, stop being insensitive.
Whiners, stop being so sensitive.

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Tipsyfresh wrote...

Zero132132 wrote...

I saw exactly one thread in which someone used the term 'rape,' and they weren't making a joke, just relaying an experience. The OP was a total dick about it in that thread, then chose to make another thread to specifically ****-talk others, and I guess to keep discussing rape for some ****ed up reason, because that's totally appropriate for BSN.

Despite what the OP says, not every victim of a sexual assault has a problem with the use of the word 'rape' to talk about things unrelated to sexual assault.


Right on target here.  Except not everyone has a problem with cheating/griefing in a video game but people get banned.

The term "rape" could've been easily interchanged with the word violated. And problem solved.  

someone make a thread about getting a better vocabulary.


So now we must all walk on eggshells when posting to avoid hurting someone's feelings. I suppose they should change the name of the ravager because it may bring back terrible memories, also cannibals and husk. While we are at it lets avoid any word that may have a synonym to avoid misunderstandings.

I think everyone is just taking this way to personal, and these threads have gone on long enough. Seriously the original thread was a "Cool Story bro." and it wouldve disappeared if not for argument that took place over the use of a word, that the OP only said because he relayed the words of other players while having his experience. People are so up tight, its like something crawled up their... Oh wait better not upset the masses.

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OP, do you have ocd ? (no provocation intendend)

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himohillo wrote...

improvisionist wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

There's some issues you just don't touch, rape is one of them.


but diz is teh interneeeeet, where i'm allowed to be as offensive as i whant.

you gotta relax brosis! you're not allowed to be offended by my tasteless jokes.


Freedom of speech. You don't have to like what others say, you can be offended if you like. But that still is not going to stop them, or me, from posting stuff like that.

What is the point of "freedom" if it is limited to what someone has chosen.


"Freedom of speech" is what forbids the GOVERNMENT from passing laws to limit your speech.  A private entity, such as this board, can make whatever rules it wants about which types of speech are tolerated.  They close threads and ban people for something as little as taking a discussion off-topic.  So why would you be so clueless as to think rape and Holocaust jokes would be tolerated?  Your ignorance is absolutely astonishing. 

WizeMan305 wrote...

Tipsyfresh wrote...

Zero132132 wrote...

I
saw exactly one thread in which someone used the term 'rape,' and they
weren't making a joke, just relaying an experience. The OP was a total
dick about it in that thread, then chose to make another thread to
specifically ****-talk others, and I guess to keep discussing rape for
some ****ed up reason, because that's totally appropriate for BSN.

Despite
what the OP says, not every victim of a sexual assault has a problem
with the use of the word 'rape' to talk about things unrelated to sexual
assault.


Right on target here.  Except not everyone has a problem with cheating/griefing in a video game but people get banned.

The term "rape" could've been easily interchanged with the word violated. And problem solved.  

someone make a thread about getting a better vocabulary.


So
now we must all walk on eggshells when posting to avoid hurting
someone's feelings. I suppose they should change the name of the ravager
because it may bring back terrible memories, also cannibals and husk.
While we are at it lets avoid any word that may have a synonym to avoid
misunderstandings.

I think everyone is just taking this way to
personal, and these threads have gone on long enough. Seriously the
original thread was a "Cool Story bro." and it wouldve disappeared if
not for argument that took place over the use of a word, that the OP
only said because he relayed the words of other players while having his
experience. People are so up tight, its like something crawled up
their... Oh wait better not upset the masses.


BWAHAAHAHAHAHAAHA

I love that your romanticizing your role on this board as being some kind of "rebel" sticking it to the politcally-correct elite.  With some of the posts being made today, I can how how the stereotype of gamers being socially-inept started.

Modifié par CmnDwnWrkn, 15 décembre 2012 - 07:59 .


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@wize

You don't have to walk on eggshells. You can go about typing rape all you want. Just don't be surprised when people care. It's funny all the post on here against OP saying free speech and free Internet and whatnot, but those same posters don't want the OP to partake in such freedooms*

People take being kicked out of a lobby personally here, don't be surprised if other things are touchy too.