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#226
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What a Twist wrote...

Trajan60 wrote...

What a Twist wrote...

EricXIII wrote...

Trajan60 wrote...

We should start a pool and take bets and how long Awakening is going to be delayed. March 16 my ass.


can a moderator ban this guy,or at least warn him?

Hes sort of like that mold growing in your shower. You scrub it away but then 2 weeks later its back and you're like "WHAT?! I just scrubed you!!"


You are an asymptotal curve approaching total blandness. Your posts are derivative and cliche-ridden .

That actually made snese, unlike your other posts flaming bioware for things that are impossible to change. Or when you were spouting random internet memes.


Too bad he had to pluck that little nugget of wisdom from Mr. Gaider...he continues to not make sense as such.

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Dead Horse: Thwap thwap! Splat splat! squiiiiiiiiiisssshhhhhhh! *eyeball pops out* AWESOME!



In reply to jennamarae, as I said before, my wife is in college to do what the people here at Bioware are doing. In her last semester, she had to do an animation that lasted about a minute and a half. She spent a long time on it, got it all working great, everything was running smoothly. Then she went to send it to her teacher for grading. While it was perfect on her end, it was a mess on the teacher's end. First he couldn't open the file. Then, after a good 12 hours of trying to fix the problem, he could open it, but it wouldn't play right. My wife adjusted sizes of the file, reconfigured all the timings on the frames and sound, switched the codex several times...it took nearly 4 days and my wife having to pretty much redo everything she had done to get it to the teacher in good working order. And that was for a minute and a half worth of animation. And when it came to the problem, even the wise teacher had no clue what to do. She had to figure it out herself. If the devs are having anything close to the problem she is, I can fully understand why it would take so long. And considering that Bioware is using the top of the line, newest programs for making their content, I'm sure there are going to be problems arising that no one has the answers for. Which means a lot of digging and searching and brainstorming to try and get it right. It's got to be a headache for them over there in Bioware Land right now. But, I truly believe they are doing their best. We are, after all, their paycheck.

As for not getting the info, I completely understand that. The devs DID tell us what was going on, but for someone who isn't constantly on the boards, that info was way too hard to find. I know the moderators and Bioware staff understand this, and that things are in the works to make it easier to get info to the players so we don't feel left in the dark, or have to rummage through hundreds of pages of posts to get answers.

We know what is up. Now let's just get back to watching the King get squished by the gaint troll thing that our characters can own in a couple of hits and get back to what we were doing two days ago. Enjoying the game we bought. We were having fun before it was suppose to come out, we will have fun when it does come out. We might as well have fun now too.

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darkshadow136 wrote...

TheGreenLion wrote...

Trajan, I understand that you are miffed...but you need to stop being childish. Your posts are also not on-topic and this thread has been warned about that. You deserve the almighty ban hammer.


Yep I agree everyone needs to stay on topic. I myself am tired of having good discussion threads about this topic closed because of this issue. If you don't have anything new and good to contribute to the topic at this time just read it and Iam.

The topic so far: Greywardens.com or whatever had a clock counting down until the RTO release, it was wrong.

The cause of this mess was a bug of some king, we will not be informed what king of bug, and we don't need to be.

It is delayed for an unknown amount of time, and we will be told its coming out, probably the moment it comes out.

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Eurypterid wrote...


Nesting should only be done by the birds says the moderator.


The birds are a lie.

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Sephris_Lor wrote...

Dead Horse: Thwap thwap! Splat splat! squiiiiiiiiiisssshhhhhhh! *eyeball pops out* AWESOME!

In reply to jennamarae, as I said before, my wife is in college to do what the people here at Bioware are doing. In her last semester, she had to do an animation that lasted about a minute and a half. She spent a long time on it, got it all working great, everything was running smoothly. Then she went to send it to her teacher for grading. While it was perfect on her end, it was a mess on the teacher's end. First he couldn't open the file. Then, after a good 12 hours of trying to fix the problem, he could open it, but it wouldn't play right. My wife adjusted sizes of the file, reconfigured all the timings on the frames and sound, switched the codex several times...it took nearly 4 days and my wife having to pretty much redo everything she had done to get it to the teacher in good working order. And that was for a minute and a half worth of animation. And when it came to the problem, even the wise teacher had no clue what to do. She had to figure it out herself. If the devs are having anything close to the problem she is, I can fully understand why it would take so long. And considering that Bioware is using the top of the line, newest programs for making their content, I'm sure there are going to be problems arising that no one has the answers for. Which means a lot of digging and searching and brainstorming to try and get it right. It's got to be a headache for them over there in Bioware Land right now. But, I truly believe they are doing their best. We are, after all, their paycheck.
As for not getting the info, I completely understand that. The devs DID tell us what was going on, but for someone who isn't constantly on the boards, that info was way too hard to find. I know the moderators and Bioware staff understand this, and that things are in the works to make it easier to get info to the players so we don't feel left in the dark, or have to rummage through hundreds of pages of posts to get answers.
We know what is up. Now let's just get back to watching the King get squished by the gaint troll thing that our characters can own in a couple of hits and get back to what we were doing two days ago. Enjoying the game we bought. We were having fun before it was suppose to come out, we will have fun when it does come out. We might as well have fun now too.


Got a question, your wife has been in school for how long doing this? Answer this, I will  go on with my answer....but really, just like Bioware, you think we are idiots and wouldn't understand...."It is an issue at the last minute" an issue?! What kind of issue?! If my parents pulled this while working, they wouldn't even have a job....if I pulled this....I wouldn't have a job, so what is this issue? We deserve to know.

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What a Twist wrote...

darkshadow136 wrote...

TheGreenLion wrote...

Trajan, I understand that you are miffed...but you need to stop being childish. Your posts are also not on-topic and this thread has been warned about that. You deserve the almighty ban hammer.


Yep I agree everyone needs to stay on topic. I myself am tired of having good discussion threads about this topic closed because of this issue. If you don't have anything new and good to contribute to the topic at this time just read it and Iam.

The topic so far: Greywardens.com or whatever had a clock counting down until the RTO release, it was wrong.

The cause of this mess was a bug of some king, we will not be informed what king of bug, and we don't need to be.

It is delayed for an unknown amount of time, and we will be told its coming out, probably the moment it comes out.


The sacracastic humor of your response PRICELESS. lol :lol:

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Bibdy wrote...

There's a difference between being a pessimist, and crying about it

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Even grown men have to cry once in a while.

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What a Twist wrote...

darkshadow136 wrote...

TheGreenLion wrote...

Trajan, I understand that you are miffed...but you need to stop being childish. Your posts are also not on-topic and this thread has been warned about that. You deserve the almighty ban hammer.


Yep I agree everyone needs to stay on topic. I myself am tired of having good discussion threads about this topic closed because of this issue. If you don't have anything new and good to contribute to the topic at this time just read it and Iam.

The topic so far: Greywardens.com or whatever had a clock counting down until the RTO release, it was wrong.

The cause of this mess was a bug of some king, we will not be informed what king of bug, and we don't need to be.

It is delayed for an unknown amount of time, and we will be told its coming out, probably the moment it comes out.


Yes we do need to be informed, you are telling me...that you can just tell your customers that it was some massive issue and it is delayed and they will be like "Okay, sounds fine with me." yeah maybe those who don't care but those who do will demand an answer...just like some of us here. Most people would get fired for just saying "It was an issue" not telling the issue and then in no uncertain terms to tell us to shut up.

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This is why Blizzard never gives release dates. If you miss it, you are being horrible human beings and don't deserve customers. If you hit it with an incomplete product, you are being horrible human beings and don't deserve customers. It's a lose/lose situation.



It stinks that it is being delayed again. They don't finish the product and sit on it for a month, so unfortunately delays can occur. Few pieces of software, gaming or otherwise, come out on time. Unfortunately, companies are pressured to give ETAs by customers/partners/publishers and vendors. The thing that players need to learn is that no date is set in stone and if a game/expansion/DLC is delayed then you should take solace in the fact that it is most likely being done to make the piece better.

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Sephris_Lor wrote...

If the devs are having anything close to the problem she is, I can fully understand why it would take so long. And considering that Bioware is using the top of the line, newest programs for making their content, I'm sure there are going to be problems arising that no one has the answers for.


And if that's what the problem is and they were to just tell us that I could understand too. I've taken a few programming classes and have gotten completely stuck so many times it's not even funny, so I know it's not the easiest thing in the world.

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Dahelia wrote...

Sephris_Lor wrote...

Dead Horse: Thwap thwap! Splat splat! squiiiiiiiiiisssshhhhhhh! *eyeball pops out* AWESOME!

In reply to jennamarae, as I said before, my wife is in college to do what the people here at Bioware are doing. In her last semester, she had to do an animation that lasted about a minute and a half. She spent a long time on it, got it all working great, everything was running smoothly. Then she went to send it to her teacher for grading. While it was perfect on her end, it was a mess on the teacher's end. First he couldn't open the file. Then, after a good 12 hours of trying to fix the problem, he could open it, but it wouldn't play right. My wife adjusted sizes of the file, reconfigured all the timings on the frames and sound, switched the codex several times...it took nearly 4 days and my wife having to pretty much redo everything she had done to get it to the teacher in good working order. And that was for a minute and a half worth of animation. And when it came to the problem, even the wise teacher had no clue what to do. She had to figure it out herself. If the devs are having anything close to the problem she is, I can fully understand why it would take so long. And considering that Bioware is using the top of the line, newest programs for making their content, I'm sure there are going to be problems arising that no one has the answers for. Which means a lot of digging and searching and brainstorming to try and get it right. It's got to be a headache for them over there in Bioware Land right now. But, I truly believe they are doing their best. We are, after all, their paycheck.
As for not getting the info, I completely understand that. The devs DID tell us what was going on, but for someone who isn't constantly on the boards, that info was way too hard to find. I know the moderators and Bioware staff understand this, and that things are in the works to make it easier to get info to the players so we don't feel left in the dark, or have to rummage through hundreds of pages of posts to get answers.
We know what is up. Now let's just get back to watching the King get squished by the gaint troll thing that our characters can own in a couple of hits and get back to what we were doing two days ago. Enjoying the game we bought. We were having fun before it was suppose to come out, we will have fun when it does come out. We might as well have fun now too.


Got a question, your wife has been in school for how long doing this? Answer this, I will  go on with my answer....but really, just like Bioware, you think we are idiots and wouldn't understand...."It is an issue at the last minute" an issue?! What kind of issue?! If my parents pulled this while working, they wouldn't even have a job....if I pulled this....I wouldn't have a job, so what is this issue? We deserve to know.

It seems at this point that they would b ewilling to cut off their own feet than tell us what heppened. Assuming ANY of the forum mods have a clue, which when it comes to highly specific things, I doubt. They're just forum mods, though I get the feeling they know more than they tell us...

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What a Twist wrote...

Dahelia wrote...

Sephris_Lor wrote...

Dead Horse: Thwap thwap! Splat splat! squiiiiiiiiiisssshhhhhhh! *eyeball pops out* AWESOME!

In reply to jennamarae, as I said before, my wife is in college to do what the people here at Bioware are doing. In her last semester, she had to do an animation that lasted about a minute and a half. She spent a long time on it, got it all working great, everything was running smoothly. Then she went to send it to her teacher for grading. While it was perfect on her end, it was a mess on the teacher's end. First he couldn't open the file. Then, after a good 12 hours of trying to fix the problem, he could open it, but it wouldn't play right. My wife adjusted sizes of the file, reconfigured all the timings on the frames and sound, switched the codex several times...it took nearly 4 days and my wife having to pretty much redo everything she had done to get it to the teacher in good working order. And that was for a minute and a half worth of animation. And when it came to the problem, even the wise teacher had no clue what to do. She had to figure it out herself. If the devs are having anything close to the problem she is, I can fully understand why it would take so long. And considering that Bioware is using the top of the line, newest programs for making their content, I'm sure there are going to be problems arising that no one has the answers for. Which means a lot of digging and searching and brainstorming to try and get it right. It's got to be a headache for them over there in Bioware Land right now. But, I truly believe they are doing their best. We are, after all, their paycheck.
As for not getting the info, I completely understand that. The devs DID tell us what was going on, but for someone who isn't constantly on the boards, that info was way too hard to find. I know the moderators and Bioware staff understand this, and that things are in the works to make it easier to get info to the players so we don't feel left in the dark, or have to rummage through hundreds of pages of posts to get answers.
We know what is up. Now let's just get back to watching the King get squished by the gaint troll thing that our characters can own in a couple of hits and get back to what we were doing two days ago. Enjoying the game we bought. We were having fun before it was suppose to come out, we will have fun when it does come out. We might as well have fun now too.


Got a question, your wife has been in school for how long doing this? Answer this, I will  go on with my answer....but really, just like Bioware, you think we are idiots and wouldn't understand...."It is an issue at the last minute" an issue?! What kind of issue?! If my parents pulled this while working, they wouldn't even have a job....if I pulled this....I wouldn't have a job, so what is this issue? We deserve to know.

It seems at this point that they would b ewilling to cut off their own feet than tell us what heppened. Assuming ANY of the forum mods have a clue, which when it comes to highly specific things, I doubt. They're just forum mods, though I get the feeling they know more than they tell us...

:ph34r:


Lol yeah! They would rather do that...that is what is making people angry...the mere fact they rather keep us in the dark...

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Dahelia wrote...

Eurypterid wrote...

What a Twist wrote...

Eurypterid, i'm sure you know way more on the issue than any of us. My only question, is will they need to go through an application process again for the consoles? Or can they just release it when they fix it?

I doubt any of us care what actually happened, just how long in general this is going to take.


Actually, I don't know any more than the rest of you guys. Im not a BioWare employee, so have no inside info on this.

Dahelia wrote...

Yeah hours before the release they go
"We had a problem, found a bug" that is what made people mad...we want
to know what kind of bug would cause such a huge problem as to delay it
hours before release.


Again, I have to ask: what difference would it make? As I noted above, I'm as much in the dark as everyone else, but I'm quite satisfied with knowing they found an issue before putting this DLC out the door, and will fix it. I really don't care what the exact issue is. I trust that BioWare will get things working as fast as they can and have this available asap.


Well I am not satified with just "Oh it was a bug" hours before the release...or an issue, whatever...an issue makes it seem like they just didn't want to release it because it would be overshadowed by the mere fact that they announced Awakening...a bug makes it seem like they don't have enough testers...to find some massive thing at the very last minute...after having 2 release dates and then backing out of both of them. You may be satified with the mere fact of being in the dark, but I am not...as a customer and someone who owns a business and also works in another business...keeping your customers in the dark about things, pisses them off more. If I told my customers that we found something wrong at the last minute, they'd want to know why...and not "It is just an issue, be okay with that answer" because customers, who have spent money and raised the hype in something at least deserve an answer than "Be okay with this answer" and then be told(in not these terms) to shut up. I have customers for my baking and my art, I also help my parents with their trucking business...we are told what is wrong, we tell the customers what is wrong. Like I said before, how would you like it...hours before your wedding the cake designer calls and says "Oh sorry, we had an 'issue' with your cake, we have to delay it for some uncertain amount of time, sorry!" or "You know the house you wanted to move into a few hours now, we found an issue, you can't move in now" and a few other things I could come up with. That would ****** people off, but than again as some people seem to believe, the customers are idiots...

the silly part of this is bioware was being nice and telling everyone what was going on so they'd be in the loop. now, people like you are getting overly demanding and it's going to reverse itself and bioware won't tell you a damn thing. why should they if all they get is grief for trying to keep their fans in the loop. the product is not out yet. once the product is out and you've downloaded it, then you have a right to know if bioware says something has then come up. right now everyone's complaining about a product that has not yet been released. you're just shooting yourself in the foot. all this whining will just get us all kept out in the dark to avoid the whining in the future.

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We were told there was a bad bug in the programming. We were told it will take about a month to get it all straitened out. While even I am a little miffed about not getting the DLC on time, I know they are just as unhappy about the money they were expecting to get for it on the 5th now not getting into their pocket for another 30 days. While the game is a great one, it is run by a company, and the company wants to make money. At least Bioware is not the sort of company that well pot out shoddy work full of bugs just to get the revenue, and then fix the bugs at a later date. I would rather they hold off on putting it out and give me something good than buy up something that screws with my game play and get a patch for it a month later. There are plenty of game companies out there that will do just that. Bioware isn't one of them.

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Trajan60 wrote...

Bibdy wrote...

There's a difference between being a pessimist, and crying about it

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Even grown men have to cry once in a while.

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Had to say it...

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bzombo wrote...

Dahelia wrote...

Eurypterid wrote...

What a Twist wrote...

Eurypterid, i'm sure you know way more on the issue than any of us. My only question, is will they need to go through an application process again for the consoles? Or can they just release it when they fix it?

I doubt any of us care what actually happened, just how long in general this is going to take.


Actually, I don't know any more than the rest of you guys. Im not a BioWare employee, so have no inside info on this.

Dahelia wrote...

Yeah hours before the release they go
"We had a problem, found a bug" that is what made people mad...we want
to know what kind of bug would cause such a huge problem as to delay it
hours before release.


Again, I have to ask: what difference would it make? As I noted above, I'm as much in the dark as everyone else, but I'm quite satisfied with knowing they found an issue before putting this DLC out the door, and will fix it. I really don't care what the exact issue is. I trust that BioWare will get things working as fast as they can and have this available asap.


Well I am not satified with just "Oh it was a bug" hours before the release...or an issue, whatever...an issue makes it seem like they just didn't want to release it because it would be overshadowed by the mere fact that they announced Awakening...a bug makes it seem like they don't have enough testers...to find some massive thing at the very last minute...after having 2 release dates and then backing out of both of them. You may be satified with the mere fact of being in the dark, but I am not...as a customer and someone who owns a business and also works in another business...keeping your customers in the dark about things, pisses them off more. If I told my customers that we found something wrong at the last minute, they'd want to know why...and not "It is just an issue, be okay with that answer" because customers, who have spent money and raised the hype in something at least deserve an answer than "Be okay with this answer" and then be told(in not these terms) to shut up. I have customers for my baking and my art, I also help my parents with their trucking business...we are told what is wrong, we tell the customers what is wrong. Like I said before, how would you like it...hours before your wedding the cake designer calls and says "Oh sorry, we had an 'issue' with your cake, we have to delay it for some uncertain amount of time, sorry!" or "You know the house you wanted to move into a few hours now, we found an issue, you can't move in now" and a few other things I could come up with. That would ****** people off, but than again as some people seem to believe, the customers are idiots...

the silly part of this is bioware was being nice and telling everyone what was going on so they'd be in the loop. now, people like you are getting overly demanding and it's going to reverse itself and bioware won't tell you a damn thing. why should they if all they get is grief for trying to keep their fans in the loop. the product is not out yet. once the product is out and you've downloaded it, then you have a right to know if bioware says something has then come up. right now everyone's complaining about a product that has not yet been released. you're just shooting yourself in the foot. all this whining will just get us all kept out in the dark to avoid the whining in the future.


If my parents did that to their customers, they'd be fired. If I did that to mine, I'd be out of a job as well...what makes Bioware so special as to just say it is an issue....and to just leave it at that. No one does that...if they do, they have no job. I want the answer, after that, I will be fine with the answer...not "an issue"

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Sephris_Lor wrote...

We were told there was a bad bug in the programming. We were told it will take about a month to get it all straitened out.


Where? I've seen nothing officially stating either of those things.

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jennamarae wrote...

Sephris_Lor wrote...

We were told there was a bad bug in the programming. We were told it will take about a month to get it all straitened out.


Where? I've seen nothing officially stating either of those things.


Now I know he is making up things...geez

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As for my wife...she has been going for just over 2 years of her 4 year degree, and is still holding a 4.0 GPA. She has debugged many problems that the students and teachers have had with projects, and they happen pretty often. Especially when working with the latest programs, because there is no where to go to find someone that has fixed the problem. It's easy to fix something when the answer is out there. Having to be the person to put that answer out there takes a lot of time and trial and error.

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Dahelia wrote...

bzombo wrote...

Dahelia wrote...

Eurypterid wrote...

What a Twist wrote...

Eurypterid, i'm sure you know way more on the issue than any of us. My only question, is will they need to go through an application process again for the consoles? Or can they just release it when they fix it?

I doubt any of us care what actually happened, just how long in general this is going to take.


Actually, I don't know any more than the rest of you guys. Im not a BioWare employee, so have no inside info on this.

Dahelia wrote...

Yeah hours before the release they go
"We had a problem, found a bug" that is what made people mad...we want
to know what kind of bug would cause such a huge problem as to delay it
hours before release.


Again, I have to ask: what difference would it make? As I noted above, I'm as much in the dark as everyone else, but I'm quite satisfied with knowing they found an issue before putting this DLC out the door, and will fix it. I really don't care what the exact issue is. I trust that BioWare will get things working as fast as they can and have this available asap.


Well I am not satified with just "Oh it was a bug" hours before the release...or an issue, whatever...an issue makes it seem like they just didn't want to release it because it would be overshadowed by the mere fact that they announced Awakening...a bug makes it seem like they don't have enough testers...to find some massive thing at the very last minute...after having 2 release dates and then backing out of both of them. You may be satified with the mere fact of being in the dark, but I am not...as a customer and someone who owns a business and also works in another business...keeping your customers in the dark about things, pisses them off more. If I told my customers that we found something wrong at the last minute, they'd want to know why...and not "It is just an issue, be okay with that answer" because customers, who have spent money and raised the hype in something at least deserve an answer than "Be okay with this answer" and then be told(in not these terms) to shut up. I have customers for my baking and my art, I also help my parents with their trucking business...we are told what is wrong, we tell the customers what is wrong. Like I said before, how would you like it...hours before your wedding the cake designer calls and says "Oh sorry, we had an 'issue' with your cake, we have to delay it for some uncertain amount of time, sorry!" or "You know the house you wanted to move into a few hours now, we found an issue, you can't move in now" and a few other things I could come up with. That would ****** people off, but than again as some people seem to believe, the customers are idiots...

the silly part of this is bioware was being nice and telling everyone what was going on so they'd be in the loop. now, people like you are getting overly demanding and it's going to reverse itself and bioware won't tell you a damn thing. why should they if all they get is grief for trying to keep their fans in the loop. the product is not out yet. once the product is out and you've downloaded it, then you have a right to know if bioware says something has then come up. right now everyone's complaining about a product that has not yet been released. you're just shooting yourself in the foot. all this whining will just get us all kept out in the dark to avoid the whining in the future.


If my parents did that to their customers, they'd be fired. If I did that to mine, I'd be out of a job as well...what makes Bioware so special as to just say it is an issue....and to just leave it at that. No one does that...if they do, they have no job. I want the answer, after that, I will be fine with the answer...not "an issue"

Well its not like they're a couple of evil guys sitting at their computer trying to torture people...

They might not know, they might not be permitted to tell, they might even be trying to find out for us. The devs themselves may not know the full extent of the issue yet.

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Harthin1

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Dahelia wrote...

What a Twist wrote...

darkshadow136 wrote...

TheGreenLion wrote...

Trajan, I understand that you are miffed...but you need to stop being childish. Your posts are also not on-topic and this thread has been warned about that. You deserve the almighty ban hammer.


Yep I agree everyone needs to stay on topic. I myself am tired of having good discussion threads about this topic closed because of this issue. If you don't have anything new and good to contribute to the topic at this time just read it and Iam.

The topic so far: Greywardens.com or whatever had a clock counting down until the RTO release, it was wrong.

The cause of this mess was a bug of some king, we will not be informed what king of bug, and we don't need to be.

It is delayed for an unknown amount of time, and we will be told its coming out, probably the moment it comes out.


Yes we do need to be informed, you are telling me...that you can just tell your customers that it was some massive issue and it is delayed and they will be like "Okay, sounds fine with me." yeah maybe those who don't care but those who do will demand an answer...just like some of us here. Most people would get fired for just saying "It was an issue" not telling the issue and then in no uncertain terms to tell us to shut up.


Get over it, they don't owe you an answer.  They said it was delayed, maybe because they just feel like ruining your day.  Chances are there was a gameplay/performance issue that impacted development and they didn't want to release a junk product.  If they did, everyone would complain that they released a junk product.  They truly can't win with internet posters.  I'm not trying to be a jerk, but the reason is always gameplay/performance/logistical.  They aren't going to delay a product because they don't want to start making money off of it just yet.

If you don't like when software is delayed, simply don't purchase it.  Of course, good luck ever getting games since the vast majority are delayed at least once. 

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princeslaney

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OK, so we have a date now - still, it's now good enough - the previous date of 5/1/10 should never have been put forward in the first place. Through all those months of development and testing of RtO, how come, on the day of launch, somebody noticed, "Hang on... it doesn't work". This error, bug, glitch - call it what you will, must have been spotted prior to 5/1/10.

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Sephris_Lor wrote...

As for my wife...she has been going for just over 2 years of her 4 year degree, and is still holding a 4.0 GPA. She has debugged many problems that the students and teachers have had with projects, and they happen pretty often. Especially when working with the latest programs, because there is no where to go to find someone that has fixed the problem. It's easy to fix something when the answer is out there. Having to be the person to put that answer out there takes a lot of time and trial and error.


The first two years for my fiance, he had to do storyboards, take art classes, programming classes before he could even do animations. How do I know this??? I had to help him draw, teach him from scratch...then he quit...>.>

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Sephris_Lor

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Dahelia,



It was posted by Chris Priestly on his personal page, (click in his name below, or just go to the first page of this thread to see what he said). As I said before, while the info is out there, the means of getting it to everyone sucks right now. And the moderators and staff are working on this as well. I'm a newb to the boards, so I know first hand that not knowing how to navigate it sucks. Now that I understand things better though, I will help everyone who wants to know find the info they want to see.