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[Eurypterid]

What a Twist wrote...

EricXIII wrote...

As stanley said stay on topic aka return to ostagar delay discussion

So I heard ostagar was delayed again.

Link?









Sorry, couldn't resist.

On a side note, Deiser, could you toss me a link to your thread? I'd like to take a look at it.

[Whailor]

This is just a small DLC and already has such issues with it's release. I'm just wondering, or maybe even worrying, what'll happen when this expansion pack release date nears in, I mean, such issues with a small thing, how'll they manage the big thing? Not feeling exactly confident here. And then there's SWToR in works, which is even bigger then all of this and again, if a small thing causes such issues, what'll the big thing do...

[knight5923]

I can totally understand why they're a little gun-shy about release date information after two back-to-back flubs, and I don't blame them for it at all, but I would be extremely satisfied even if they just offered a wildly vague, one word response (eg. weeks, months) just so i know whether I should be checking for updates daily, or if I should find something else to occupy myself for a while.

[Gorthaur the Cruel]

Whailor wrote...

This is just a small DLC and already has such issues with it's release. I'm just wondering, or maybe even worrying, what'll happen when this expansion pack release date nears in, I mean, such issues with a small thing, how'll they manage the big thing? Not feeling exactly confident here. And then there's SWToR in works, which is even bigger then all of this and again, if a small thing causes such issues, what'll the big thing do...

I'm betting the expac wont come out in time. And Dao was delayed two times so my confidence in bioware delivering there products on time has diminished to nothing.

[Lethaltwig]

um yea if it takes a month it takes a month if it takes 2 it takes 2, its not as easy to fix code or even write code as it is to bake a Soufflé. you rush programers and you get a cluster (you know what)

Modifié par Lethaltwig, 08 janvier 2010 - 12:18 .

[knight5923]

It's easier to bake code than it is to fix a Soufflé tho......

[JKJEDIKNIGHT]

Really no point going around and around on this topic anymore is there? Since the news it was delayed there has been really 1 thing said about it, and we continue to be in the dark despite dozens and maybe hundreds of requests for information. At this point we'll probably have to wait for the announcement on the DAO main page. "Return To Ostagar Available NOW!!!"

[Lethaltwig]

knight5923 wrote...

It's easier to bake code than it is to fix a Soufflé tho......

lol to true

[Eurypterid]

Solostran85 wrote...

Whailor wrote...

This is just a small DLC and already has such issues with it's release. I'm just wondering, or maybe even worrying, what'll happen when this expansion pack release date nears in, I mean, such issues with a small thing, how'll they manage the big thing? Not feeling exactly confident here. And then there's SWToR in works, which is even bigger then all of this and again, if a small thing causes such issues, what'll the big thing do...

I'm betting the expac wont come out in time. And Dao was delayed two times so my confidence in bioware delivering there products on time has diminished to nothing.

The actual game itself was delayed to coincide with the console release.

As for RtO: why would you assume it is going to have any bearing on what happens with the expansion? Keep in mind that there are different teams working on the DLC and expansion. As well, RtO isn't the first DLC. Warden's Keep was the first official for-purchase DLC, and that was delivered relatively smoothly, was it not? A problem with RtO doesn't necessarily indicate future problems with any DLC or expansions.

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

jennamarae wrote...

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

Achievements add replayability and entertainment to additional play throughs.

Not when you can only get the achievement once. Then it doesn't add anything beyond your first play through.

That really depends on the achievements though.  If you've got an achievement for carrying Calain's corpse to the Landsmeet and another achievement for feeding it to Rabbit and the two are mutually exclusive options, then you've got added value for multiple play throughts.

It's like having an uber-rogue acheivement and a uber-warrior achievement.  One play through can't get both.

[Gorthaur the Cruel]

Eurypterid wrote...

Solostran85 wrote...

Whailor wrote...

This is just a small DLC and already has such issues with it's release. I'm just wondering, or maybe even worrying, what'll happen when this expansion pack release date nears in, I mean, such issues with a small thing, how'll they manage the big thing? Not feeling exactly confident here. And then there's SWToR in works, which is even bigger then all of this and again, if a small thing causes such issues, what'll the big thing do...

I'm betting the expac wont come out in time. And Dao was delayed two times so my confidence in bioware delivering there products on time has diminished to nothing.

The actual game itself was delayed to coincide with the console release.

As for RtO: why would you assume it is going to have any bearing on what happens with the expansion? Keep in mind that there are different teams working on the DLC and expansion. As well, RtO isn't the first DLC. Warden's Keep was the first official for-purchase DLC, and that was delivered relatively smoothly, was it not? A problem with RtO doesn't necessarily indicate future problems with any DLC or expansions.

I know but with all these delays its hard to believe anything will come out on time anymore.

Edit: i thought dao was delayed to fix it up and add more content?

Modifié par Solostran85, 08 janvier 2010 - 12:52 .

[knight5923]

Eurypterid wrote...
 As well, RtO isn't the first DLC. Warden's Keep was the first official for-purchase DLC, and that was delivered relatively smoothly, was it not? A problem with RtO doesn't necessarily indicate future problems with any DLC or expansions.

That's an excellent point. Warden's Keep, Stone Prisoner, not to mention the tons of individual downloadable items you could get from various sources were all released in a timely fashion. I saw an interview before release, in which one of the lead developers was discussing how, shortly before the release date, a small group of programmers were given a few weeks to come up with some small quests and content. Come release, they had built hours upon hours of custom content within the short time, to add to the depth and breadth of the experience. So, obviously, this is a talented developer base who just ran into a hiccup. It's not something that should necessarily forecast future problems.

edit: just for clarity, I meant prior to the release of DA:O, not RtO

Modifié par knight5923, 08 janvier 2010 - 12:37 .

[TheGreenLion]

You know, I wonder why people insist that a DLC delay would therefore translate into an expansion delay seeing as the more official reason for this particular delay was better content in this latest DLC. In general, I think that this bump in the road will not cause the expansion to be delayed as well. Being a large company, they probably have a team working on the DLCs and anything to do with them, and a seperate team handling the expansion project.

Therefore, IF there is a delay it won't be because of the same reasons and probably not the same department. As we know, this year is full of new Bioware products being released pretty much one after the other, so I'm positive that they know a thing or two about juggling several, er...things all at once.

I have faith in them delivering quality products and I'm sure they fret about their previous delays with this particular game. If they didn't they would probably have said nothing at all because they wouldn't give a crap about our reactions or losing customers either. That said, I bet they WILL deliver the expansion on time and we'll be happy with it to boot. You can flame me later if that's not the case!


EDIT: and I spent all this time thinking it out when Eurypterid pretty much nailed the whole thing. And in a smaller post, lol.

Modifié par TheGreenLion, 08 janvier 2010 - 12:41 .

[MonkeyChief117]

There will be a day when RtO will be available - i'm sure there will be celebrations and parades. President Obama will make a speech. Third world debt will be erased. In general, the world will be a better place - just not yet . . .

[Discursion]

RtO is already available illegally, BioWare really needs to respond to this ~.~

[Gorthaur the Cruel]

Discursion wrote...

RtO is already available illegally, BioWare really needs to respond to this ~.~

Lets not get into this we do not need this thread getting closed.

[Titius.Vibius]

Discursion wrote...

RtO is already available illegally, BioWare really needs to respond to this ~.~

Hey you! Yes you! Stop your illegal activity about torrents you want us to look for!

[Discursion]

Titius.Vibius wrote...

Discursion wrote...

RtO is already available illegally, BioWare really needs to respond to this ~.~

Hey you! Yes you! Stop your illegal activity about torrents you want us to look for!

You own the game, you don't need to go looking for it.

BioWare needs it's attention drawn to the situation though, and these forums are the only way to do it prompty before it explodes once it gets out.

[Gorthaur the Cruel]

Discursion wrote...

Titius.Vibius wrote...

Discursion wrote...

RtO is already available illegally, BioWare really needs to respond to this ~.~

Hey you! Yes you! Stop your illegal activity about torrents you want us to look for!

You own the game, you don't need to go looking for it.

BioWare needs it's attention drawn to the situation though, and these forums are the only way to do it prompty before it explodes once it gets out.

Please stop...your....killing....this thread.

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

Eurypterid wrote...

As for RtO: why would you assume it is going to have any bearing on what happens with the expansion? Keep in mind that there are different teams working on the DLC and expansion. As well, RtO isn't the first DLC. Warden's Keep was the first official for-purchase DLC, and that was delivered relatively smoothly, was it not? A problem with RtO doesn't necessarily indicate future problems with any DLC or expansions.

We have three points of data:  Shale, Warden's Keep and RtO.  From my recollection (admittedly not perfect!) Shale was intended to be part of the original game... but was split off into DLC when it was realized that Shale couldn't be completed in time for the game's release.  The PC/360 delay covered the Shale delay up.  So that's one point of data that's not roses and sunshine. 

Point two is Warden's Keep.  There was a blue post or interview lamenting that it was initially built to become more than it is after the events of the DLC, however due to something that the blue poster or interviewee didn't want to discuss, much had to be left out.  Point two is not roses and sunshine.

Point three is RtO.  Blowing the holiday deadline was a terrible bummer.  Blowing the second dateline... ugh.  Nothing more needs to be said.  It is not roses and sunshine.

Point four?  Awakenings.  On 03-16-10.  Will it be delayed?  If you look at the data you can draw your own conclusion.  You can be smug and snarky and dim, expecting the next one to be delayed as well, or you can expect that BioWare has learned a little more each time and will be better because of their past mistakes.

Anyways, life isn't roses and sunshine.  **** happens.



There.  I even kept my Mashadar-like hatred of Sony and bitter, steeple-fingered suspicions of why RtO is being delayed from peeking into this post at--- Ooops, ****. 

[Titius.Vibius]

Discursion wrote...

Titius.Vibius wrote...

Discursion wrote...

RtO is already available illegally, BioWare really needs to respond to this ~.~

Hey you! Yes you! Stop your illegal activity about torrents you want us to look for!

You own the game, you don't need to go looking for it.

BioWare needs it's attention drawn to the situation though, and these forums are the only way to do it prompty before it explodes once it gets out.

Psst! I already called you out to produce your screenshots and what not. Why still bother posting your crap?

[Titius.Vibius]

Discursion wrote...

Titius.Vibius wrote...

Discursion wrote...

RtO is already available illegally, BioWare really needs to respond to this ~.~

Hey you! Yes you! Stop your illegal activity about torrents you want us to look for!

You own the game, you don't need to go looking for it.

BioWare needs it's attention drawn to the situation though, and these forums are the only way to do it prompty before it explodes once it gets out.

Have you played it? Your illegal RTO? If yes, then that will shut me up, otherwise move on to greywardens.com and fester them there.

[Discursion]

Titius.Vibius wrote...

Discursion wrote...

Titius.Vibius wrote...

Discursion wrote...

RtO is already available illegally, BioWare really needs to respond to this ~.~

Hey you! Yes you! Stop your illegal activity about torrents you want us to look for!

You own the game, you don't need to go looking for it.

BioWare needs it's attention drawn to the situation though, and these forums are the only way to do it prompty before it explodes once it gets out.

Psst! I already called you out to produce your screenshots and what not. Why still bother posting your crap?

Throw some italics on that bold and someone might read one of your posts some day.

If all else fails, underline, strikeout, the whole nine yards.

[Gorthaur the Cruel]

Discursion wrote...

Titius.Vibius wrote...

Discursion wrote...

Titius.Vibius wrote...

Discursion wrote...

RtO is already available illegally, BioWare really needs to respond to this ~.~

Hey you! Yes you! Stop your illegal activity about torrents you want us to look for!

You own the game, you don't need to go looking for it.

BioWare needs it's attention drawn to the situation though, and these forums are the only way to do it prompty before it explodes once it gets out.

Psst! I already called you out to produce your screenshots and what not. Why still bother posting your crap?

Throw some italics on that bold and someone might read one of your posts some day.

If all else fails, underline, strikeout, the whole nine yards.

No one cares about illegal content go talk about it somewhere else.

[Titius.Vibius]

Discursion wrote...

Titius.Vibius wrote...

Discursion wrote...

Titius.Vibius wrote...

Discursion wrote...

RtO is already available illegally, BioWare really needs to respond to this ~.~

Hey you! Yes you! Stop your illegal activity about torrents you want us to look for!

You own the game, you don't need to go looking for it.

BioWare needs it's attention drawn to the situation though, and these forums are the only way to do it prompty before it explodes once it gets out.

Psst! I already called you out to produce your screenshots and what not. Why still bother posting your crap?

Throw some italics on that bold and someone might read one of your posts some day.

If all else fails, underline, strikeout, the whole nine yards.

Whatever makes you happy.