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[StianJ]

What a Twist wrote...

Aren't we getting a bit dramatic over this hour long DLC?...

Sure there's a lack of info on why it got delayed, and I too would like to know. However knowing why wouldn't change the fact that it is delayed. Unless it was for some extremely stupid thing, thus pissing off the community.

Yup, people should stop obsessing and whining like little schoolgirls about it. It's delayed, and will come out when it comes out. These things can happen to the best of us. End of story.

[Knal1991]

wikkedjoker wrote...

Okay, my comment is, what is the likely hood that this "bug" would even be that big of a deal? Meaning what are the odds that it would have been encountered? IF it really did pass EA and BioWare testing, and even the PC and SONY, and M$oft allegedly found it, what are the odds that it was that game breaking?

except for the fact that dragon age was released and did not work for alot of people....

[EricXIII]

I dont think the issue was a bug to be honest,because they had already passed to microsoft..It was probably some kind of compability issue?Maybe it couldnt work with windows 7 or something

[wikkedjoker]

Knal1991 wrote...

wikkedjoker wrote...

Okay, my comment is, what is the likely hood that this "bug" would even be that big of a deal? Meaning what are the odds that it would have been encountered? IF it really did pass EA and BioWare testing, and even the PC and SONY, and M$oft allegedly found it, what are the odds that it was that game breaking?

except for the fact that dragon age was released and did not work for alot of people....

It was no were near as bad as the Orang Box. Where you could not play it for a month.

EDIT: Also I had no big problem with DAO, when I got it, and any I did were solved by turning off my Xbox and turning it back on. But I assume you mean computer problems.

Modifié par wikkedjoker, 10 janvier 2010 - 10:59 .

[Knal1991]

even still it would be gamebreaking if the game will not start

[Cybercat999]

jsachun wrote...
If you love Fantasy RPG you should try Oblivion. Apparently Elder Scroll 5 might be coming out soon. Betheseda is really good with PR, Announcements, & Deadlines. Fallout 3 is one of the best RPG ever.

To be honest I think I am going to get back to my 8 years old MMO. It is maybe not the best game out there, it surely has outdated combat mechanics and graphics, but when I get stuck/bug out in game I get game director personally solving my problem. Not to mention the fact I can always ask him whatever I want on forum and get honest, detailed answer if I only make a bit of effort to be polite and truly interested. And I am by all means not somebody privileged, every player gets the same treatment.
Things like that matter to me sometimes more than polished game.

Modifié par Cybercat999, 10 janvier 2010 - 11:12 .

[Cybercat999]

wikkedjoker wrote...

And the lack of information is insulting even further than not at least letting us know what trouble this bug caused, I mean really people understand that type of thing, and would lay off, if they knew just how bad the bug was and what it did. But with out any info on the bug it leads to the speculation that there might not be one, and this is a marketing gimmick, or some inner thing, because they did not want to compete with the games coming out on the 5th.   

The bigger ****** off is the fact that, they waited till the 11th hour to tell us, testing and certification are finished long before the DLC is even ready for launch, point is Bioware knew earlier than the 5th and said nothing, people spent money thinking they where going to get it, and than come the 5th we get a copy/paste PR statement.   
 
We could at the very least be told why our 5-20 bucks aren’t buying us something else. That’s all anyone’s asking for.

Yes. This.

[wikkedjoker]

Knal1991 wrote...

even still it would be gamebreaking if the game will not start

Than again why not just come out and say that?
People who had that problem would understand this issue. I argue the bug being real, because it seems way to convenient.
I mean saying we have  bug, but refuse to dissclose anything on it. Does sound much better to a PR guy than saying.
“Well guys the DLC is done, but we don’t wanna release it alongside Bayonetta and Darksiders because there looking bigger than we first thought.”

 I do believe that would ****** a lot of people off.

[Rommel49]

I also have to question the delay when there is apparently a functional copy of the thing available. The "quality issue" doesn't appear to be so severe that the DLC is godawful or unplayable, afterall. And while it's been brought up that making it better or whatnot and waiting is good for securing the future of additional DLC for the game and all that, the last time this sort of thing happened doesn't really support that idea. After the mess of the delay with ME's first DLC (which was offered for free, no less) there was only one released after that, and by that time ME2 had already been announced.



While it's nice to think the wait'll be at most a few weeks, that's a really generous estimate given the precedent Bioware set. I can almost understand why they don't release even a ballpark estimate, telling players "it'll take a few months" probably wouldn't sit right with most when it comes to a fairly short DLC. Set your expectations very, very low and you won't be disappointed.

[T1l]

I have to admit, I too find it strange that Bioware chose not to tell the community what went wrong. It was pulled at the last minute for a "quality issue" - it's about as vague as it gets. It's strange, to be sure, and there's definitely more to it than what we've been told but clearly Bioware don't think it's necessary to tell us. We do not need to know the details of why; just that it is so.

Fair enough, I say. Bioware are under no obligation to tell us anything. In fact, Bioware have already done more for their community than many other developers would in this situation, and for that, I’m grateful. I have faith that they're making the right choice; for whatever reason. Truthfully, we have little other option.

EDIT: Just as an aside – did anyone see the article on the percentage of people who download DLC on IGN? 15% in this particular study. I find that number to be shockingly low. It would be interesting to see some figures from Bioware on the attachment rate of their DLC; I have a feeling it’s a lot higher than 15%.

Modifié par T1l, 10 janvier 2010 - 12:19 .

[BrianWilly]

So! Nearly a week and absolutely no news or any new information of any kind. I see that the original announcement of "We will update you as new information becomes available" is really about as much hot air as many had suspected.

[/Morrigan]

[Thaek]

The pirated version of Return to Ostagar for PC is already released. No bugs have been found so far. I don't know how Bioware wants to explain this. Now almost every PC Gamer will play the pirated release because they don't want to wait almost 1 month for the official one. And than EA can whine about no one buying DLC...

[EledraEldar]

Thaek wrote...

The pirated version of Return to Ostagar for PC is already released. No bugs have been found so far. I don't know how Bioware wants to explain this. Now almost every PC Gamer will play the pirated release because they don't want to wait almost 1 month for the official one. And than EA can whine about no one buying DLC...

shh
one thing is clear now
anyone from BW is allergic to see discussion or mention
about "these p*****d" thing

[Silensfurtim]

lol @ pirated RtO.



Bioware please explain what happened.

[TafkanX]

I guess I can be thankful for once that I am stuck on the 360 (gaming computer died some time ago and I have yet to accumulate the dough to repair/replace it) as I would be overly tempted to engage in... illicit maritime activities. I really hope they don't drag this out much longer though, once ME2 hits the shelves DAO is going to be spending a while in it's case. At least until Awakening comes out, at any rate.



Having said all of that, I am eagerly awaiting RTO and I hope it lives up to it's expectations. I'd hate to get this worked up over something and have it turn out like Mothership Zeta.

[Sidney]

Thaek wrote...

The pirated version of Return to Ostagar for PC is already released. No bugs have been found so far. I don't know how Bioware wants to explain this. Now almost every PC Gamer will play the pirated release because they don't want to wait almost 1 month for the official one. And than EA can whine about no one buying DLC...

They do not have to. It is their IP, they can choose how they want to deploy it or not. It might be the greaest thing since sliced bread, it might redfine how games are played but they have no moral obligation to sell it at this moment in time.

I love that the PC gamers argument is "well now we'll just all pirate it so they should release it". Good stand, strong principles at play right there.

[Killian Kalthorne]

I don't care if it has been leaked out, I for one will not use a pirated version, PERIOD. It is disrespectful to the makers of the game who have put forth the creative effort to support the game. As a PC gamer I find software piracy abhorrent.

[Knal1991]

Since I spent the points already i'll just wait... though how longer it takes how more people will download pirated version, I however want to support bioware...

[darkshadow136]

David Gaider wrote...

Last time I'll post this warning. This isn't an appropriate forum to discuss pirated software or post pictures referring to it, real or fake. Thank you kindly.

What part of what David Gaider said has fallen on deaf ears. Please quit talking about the big P word unless you are trying to get this thread closed. They are aware of it by now and will investigate as well i'm sure. Constantly bringing it up when warned multiple times doesn't make you look like concerned customers but undiciplined children crying for attention. I know everyone is frustrated by the news as well am I but bringing it up all the time when it has been made clear they know but they don't want that topic discussed on their forum will bring a un-desired response I'm sure.

[Costin_Razvan]

Perhaps it occured to you that it was intended?

It is not uncommon for a company to leak a unfinished product just too see how opinions are.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 10 janvier 2010 - 03:05 .

[XxDrunkSniperxX]

i bought 1600 points only to find i cant get it.. once its out i'll replace the copy i already have.



the only bug i found was when you head over to where the joining happened its possible to go outside of the map.

[xLyTwiZiDxLy]

If it took them 2 months to make 1 hour of content,How long did it take them to make the game?(180 hours)

[ragrik]

I think the delay was simply to release RTO on all platforms simultaneously to get more money.

[Gorthaur the Cruel]

ragrik wrote...

I think the delay was simply to release RTO on all platforms simultaneously to get more money.

Go ahead and think that. I see no reason why bioware would lie, they said that they found something that they wanted to change or fix up so I'm going to believe them.