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[nbiscuitz]

its all part of the bum rush tactic.

[collstrop2]

Computron2000 wrote...

I believe they reduced the radius around a player that would be considered as a "no spawn" region. It used to be that you could literally sit on a spawn spot and be assured that its suppressed but nowadays if you don't have LOS over the entire area, its considered far game for the system to spawn things where you can't see it (basically right behind you). And when i say total LOS, it really is total. If there's an small alcove where you can't see, that area is still considered ok for spawning even though its silly as you can see half a cannibal popping up

The spawns changed with the last patch/DLC, but they changed again since then, to the point where they're doing what's displayed in the video. It always used to be the player's proximity to a spawn, which is why people camped FBW. If everyone was in the camping room the enemy wouldn't spawn at the nearest spawn point; which was out the back door, and no one in the room had line of sight through the back wall.

I don't think the new system, (whatever it is,) is based on line of sight either, because on large maps like Giant; during a solo I've seen enemies respawn  at the base of the upper control room's ladder. You kill enemies in that spawn from soft cover near the LZ and you watch the enemies you just killed by the ladder reappear out of thin air. Perfect line of sight with no obstructions.

[Computron2000]

collstrop2 wrote...

Computron2000 wrote...

I believe they reduced the radius around a player that would be considered as a "no spawn" region. It used to be that you could literally sit on a spawn spot and be assured that its suppressed but nowadays if you don't have LOS over the entire area, its considered far game for the system to spawn things where you can't see it (basically right behind you). And when i say total LOS, it really is total. If there's an small alcove where you can't see, that area is still considered ok for spawning even though its silly as you can see half a cannibal popping up

The spawns changed with the last patch/DLC, but they changed again since then, to the point where they're doing what's displayed in the video. It always used to be the player's proximity to a spawn, which is why people camped FBW. If everyone was in the camping room the enemy wouldn't spawn at the nearest spawn point; which was out the back door, and no one in the room had line of sight through the back wall.

I don't think the new system, (whatever it is,) is based on line of sight either, because on large maps like Giant; during a solo I've seen enemies respawn  at the base of the upper control room's ladder. You kill enemies in that spawn from soft cover near the LZ and you watch the enemies you just killed by the ladder reappear out of thin air. Perfect line of sight with no obstructions.

I believe that the entire no spawn in old FBW was because of a no spawn radius around a player. Might be wrong but it fits into why i used to be able to sit on anywhere on a spawn spot and not have anything spawn behind me but they do now.

For the spawning mechanic, there has always been a distance limit. You might remember that months and months back, you could see stuff spawning on Dagger if you were down the ramp from the LZ. They would pop up regardless of LOS (and they still do that now). I do not know how much is the distance limit though but i suspect it was put in to reduce the processing required