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[spirosz]

To play a game, simple.

[o Ventus]

The point of ME2 was to be made irrelevant in ME3.

Granted, ME1 was also made fairly irrelevant as well.

[Maniccc]

bobbydarko wrote...

Your not missing something. But, as it's often referred to, the same can be said for star wars: empire strikes back. It's the 2nd film, it really doesn't push the rebel/sith war storyline further. You could probably watch a new hope and go right to return and get the whole "story", but like mass effect, you'd be missing out on the best one.

Ermm...the Star Wars movies are about Darth Vader, his son and "bringing balance to the Force".  Empire Strikes Back pushes that story along quite nicely, thank you.

And, I disagree, it DOES tell you about the rebel/empire war.  The empire is hunting down the rebels in the beginning, and we know that throughout the movie the rebels are scattering and regrouping.  Luke is at the Rebel fleet at the end, where they have regrouped to continue the fight against the empire.

[fr33stylez]

IsaacShep wrote...

But they starting creating the Capitol Ship when Sovereign failed and Reapers begun FTLing to the Galaxy. Yes, the Reapers are able to harvest anyway but with Collectors, they can start it earlier and focus on other stuff. Collectors are an asset to them.

Focus on other stuff like what? What is there to focus on besides the harvest - you know the reason they're invading?

It's not as if the Collectors are even strong. If they had been identified/confronted by any fleet in the 2 years they were very slowly building the Reaper, the Collectors would've been blown to bits.

But the situation changed when Sovereign failed. When he failed, he exposed himself. Shepard and the Alliance already know about the Reapers. And Reapers have no reason to assume everyone in the galaxy will ignore the threat. It would be just unwise for them to do so. The situation is unique and like never before, they have to spend 2 years FTLing to the galaxy while those who know about them may be already prepping plans to defeat them. They're arogant, but they're not completly dumb. Their standard pattern of invasion has already failed. When they finally arrive guess what, the galaxy already knows about the Crucible and starts building it. Earlier than ever before the next cycle got Crucible plans. This cycle is also the most technologically developed due to delays (reverse-engineered Sovereign guns). 

The Crucible is irrelevant to the discussion because the Catalyst even tells you they believed the plans were destroyed, so this would'nt have influenced the decision-making by the Reapers.

Now, regardless if the Reapers thought they were exposed, we know it takes the Reapers centuries to complete a harvest of the cycle. Nothing that is done in 2 years can signifcantly speed up the process, not to mention trying to kidnap a billion humans under the nose of the entire freaking galaxy to complete a Reaper with a not-so-formidable force is risky. If people are preparing for the Reapers as they fly to the galaxy, starting on one Reaper should be the least of their worries.

Nothing catastrophic occuerd? THEY LOST. They were busy gathering humans for processing and trying to rekate the Citadel to build new Human Reaper in there instead of just bombarding or nuking Earth.

They didn't lose the war in ME3 because they couldn't get a head start on the Human-Reaper from ME2. Who said they would've nuked earth (if they even have such capabilities) if they still had the Human-Reaper? In previous cycles where they didn't get a 'head-start', they weren't nuking planets as opposed to harvesting them so I don't get where this comes from.

 

Again, when Sovereign was trying to solve the problem, Reapers were not known by anyone in the galaxy, nor their plans.

Again, even assuming people knew about the Reapers and their plans, getting a 'head start' on ONE Reaper does nothing. The Harvest in a century-long war, with several Reapers constructed, even from other races. You just have to realize that the purpose of the Human-Reaper is never explained in ME2, and Bioware didn't bother explaining it because you killed it off anyways.

Modifié par fr33stylez, 20 décembre 2012 - 01:53 .

[tonnactus]

Reapers have time.50-100 years and Sovereign would be nothing more then a myth.

[Nykara]

There doesn't really seem to be much point to ME2 at all in the overall story line of the game to be honest. Not even with the crew members. LI's got pretty much shafted, the dark energy story seemed to fall in to nothingness - anything else wasn't all that significant to ME3 at all.

[Guy On The Moon]

Nykara wrote...

There doesn't really seem to be much point to ME2 at all in the overall story line of the game to be honest. Not even with the crew members. LI's got pretty much shafted, the dark energy story seemed to fall in to nothingness - anything else wasn't all that significant to ME3 at all.

This.

I'm doing another playthrough of the series and reminded me of how much fun ME2 was, but of how irrelevant it is, and the potential it had too...

[saintjimmy43]

To be the funnest game in the series, and to make you go whee whee whee all the way home.
so SHADDAP.

[krukow]

It exists as a means of showing off miranda's @ss.

Nothing more.

[Seboist]

krukow wrote...

It exists as a means of showing off miranda's @ss.

Nothing more.

And an opportunity to bang Tali.