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[DragonIroh001]

I'm referring to his Post-Thessia 'joke' about how the Asari "are wishing they had fewer dancers and more commandos right about now".

I've seen a lot of people who’ve wished that we had the option to laugh at the ‘joke’ or that Shepard could've just calmly told him off, but I’ve never seen or read anyone one that said ‘yeah he totally deserved being shouted at’.

So who here thought that he deserved what he got?

Edit: Fixed formatting, Well that was strange.

Modifié par DragonIroh001, 16 décembre 2012 - 01:59 .

[DirtyPhoenix]

dafuq!

[MegaIllusiveMan]

We could just have speak: "Not now, Joker"

[TheGreatDayne]

Finn the Jakey wrote...
 I wouldn't have lost my sh*t and started moaning at him.

I am now seeing a weird image of someone holding their own fecal matter, then losing it, then proceeding to make blissful sounds toward Joker... Ah, curse my EN110 Professor and making us take things literally! The lessson is still with me, two sememsters later!!

But, yeah, I'd be mad at him, too... I hate it when friends say something that could hurt another friend!

[Linkenski]

I think the whole 'Thessia failure' plot was like the 'point of no return' of a movie, and in many places the game felt more like a AAA movie than the other ME games. It's meant to be dramtic, so they decided that shepard had to feel down, no matter what, in this part of the game. I actually wanted to tell Joker to quit the joking, just once at that point so i was fine with it.

I did hate how i didn't get any choices at the holocall after the mission though, because the defeat didn't let me down as much as the writer's intended it to. Some people want to keep pushing, and show no sign of weakness, so i agree that we should have had the ability to choose to keep going instead of moaning and feeling sorry in this scene.

Hopefully bioware realises that bigger doesn't necessarily equal better in the case of Mass Effect 3. I think that's a big reason why most people still like ME2 better. It was on a much smaller, more intimate scale.

[Armass81]

Yeah laugh when someones homeworld is dying.

How woudl you feel if Liara cracked a joke about all the dying humans on earth.

Modifié par Armass81, 16 décembre 2012 - 02:19 .

[Selene Moonsong]

From a command perspective, neither shouting or laughing would be appropriate for Paragon or Renegade.

[JBPBRC]

I didn't. The joke wasn't THAT great, but its not like everything Joker says is comedy gold as it was.

Forced into being angry though, I could've done without.

Alas, railroading.

[Barquiel]

Joker is an idiot. He made a really inappropriate/racist joke and gets offended when Shep gets mad at him. He got what he deserved (I found Shepards reaction even too mild)

[WhiteKnyght]

Selene Moonsong wrote...

From a command perspective, neither shouting or laughing would be appropriate for Paragon or Renegade.

Well I thought Joker was way out of line there. Liara's homeworld fell while she watched, she's currently torn up about it, and he's making slams about the Asari's culture.

That's ignorant and insensitive. He's just lucky Liara was about to kill Javik at that moment, otherwise he'd be the one to get flayed alive with her mind.

And like one mission later, Liara tries to help Joker locate his baby sister among Tiptree refugees. Even though Hilary Moreau is dead, they don't know that and she's trying to do something good for him. But he's making cruel jokes behind her back.

Modifié par The Grey Nayr, 16 décembre 2012 - 02:54 .

[SpamBot2000]

People in stressful positions, like cops, soldiers and emergency first responders, do make those kinds of jokes. Shepard getting all 'Grrrr!' about it is just the writers making Shep show more signs of cracking under the pressure. I feel it's not really their place to force the reaction. But then, I like RPGs, not fully scripted shootahons.

[AshenShug4r]

Shepard knows what Joker is like. He uses humor to alleviate stress and maintain morale in dark situations. My shep would never chastise Joker for his quips.

[B.Shep]

It was a stupid joke even by Joker's standards, he deserved what Shepard did.

[apascone]

The spambot and ashen comments I totally agree with. It is a coping mechanism. After you've been with Joker for as long as you have you should've realized that Just said "Nows not the time" He did it after you recruited Liara In ME1 with the whole lava being bad for the ship comment. It's just who he is.

[SpamBot2000]

Point being, it would be appropriate for the player to make the decision whether Joker deserved it or not.

[Ledgend1221]

It's not a joke.
He's just stating facts.

[Samtheman63]

me, jokers a dick

[WhiteKnyght]

AshenShug4r wrote...

Shepard knows what Joker is like. He uses humor to alleviate stress and maintain morale in dark situations. My shep would never chastise Joker for his quips.

Joker's been making racist remarks throughout the series. It's not just jokes.

Hell, he willingly joined Cerberus in ME2, before he knew about Shepard or the Normandy. He joined the same people that tried to kill Shepard repeatedly, murdered Admiral Kahoku, tortured Corporal Toombs, and tried to enslave Rachni and Thorian creepers. And experimented with Dragon's Teeth.

Shepard never had a choice, they resurrected him and threw the Collectors in his face. Joker made a choice, and he always knew they were evil.

 

[Ledgend1221]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

AshenShug4r wrote...

Shepard knows what Joker is like. He uses humor to alleviate stress and maintain morale in dark situations. My shep would never chastise Joker for his quips.

Joker's been making racist remarks throughout the series. It's not just jokes.

Hell, he willingly joined Cerberus in ME2, before he knew about Shepard or the Normandy. He joined the same people that tried to kill Shepard repeatedly, murdered Admiral Kahoku, tortured Corporal Toombs, and tried to enslave Rachni and Thorian creepers. And experimented with Dragon's Teeth.

Shepard never had a choice, they resurrected him and threw the Collectors in his face. Joker made a choice, and he always knew they were evil.

 

Joker knows whats what.
Humanity first.

[SpamBot2000]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

AshenShug4r wrote...

Shepard knows what Joker is like. He uses humor to alleviate stress and maintain morale in dark situations. My shep would never chastise Joker for his quips.

Joker's been making racist remarks throughout the series. It's not just jokes.

Hell, he willingly joined Cerberus in ME2, before he knew about Shepard or the Normandy. He joined the same people that tried to kill Shepard repeatedly, murdered Admiral Kahoku, tortured Corporal Toombs, and tried to enslave Rachni and Thorian creepers. And experimented with Dragon's Teeth.

Shepard never had a choice, they resurrected him and threw the Collectors in his face. Joker made a choice, and he always knew they were evil.

 

I definitely think there should be an option to reprimand him. And an option to LOL. And a neutral one in between. Etc.

Modifié par SpamBot2000, 16 décembre 2012 - 03:24 .

[paul165]

SpamBot2000 wrote...

People in stressful positions, like cops, soldiers and emergency first responders, do make those kinds of jokes. Shepard getting all 'Grrrr!' about it is just the writers making Shep show more signs of cracking under the pressure. I feel it's not really their place to force the reaction. But then, I like RPGs, not fully scripted shootahons.