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#51
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Armass81 wrote...

Yeah laugh when someones homeworld is dying.

How woudl you feel if Liara cracked a joke about all the dying humans on earth.


I would have laughed, because it would be so out-of-character for Liara that it would be surprising and funny. Hell, I probably would like her a lot more.

Also, there weren't actually any humans dying and that isn't really earth, so with that in consideration, I wouldn't care. In addition, I had no connection to that fictional earth because it wasn't featured in ME 1 or 2.

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Armass81 wrote...

Yeah laugh when someones homeworld is dying.

How woudl you feel if Liara cracked a joke about all the dying humans on earth.


If I found it funny I would laugh. If it wasn't then I wouldn't care since I have no personal connection with Earth.

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legion999 wrote...
If I found it funny I would laugh. If it wasn't then I wouldn't care since I have no personal connection with Earth.


Same here. At one point, I didn't care about Earth at all, since it had no real place in the story. Lots of people dying? Join the club.

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Considering Shepards Earth bias in ME3 the game would probably make you shoot any person who makes a joke about humans beeing harvested...

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Thats another thing that bugged me. Seems every colony in the galaxy was just shoved under the rug. "Defend the homeworld, **** everyone else!"

My Shepard wasn't an earth born. I never considered earth all that important personally. It was just another planet out of many.  If anything its lower on my list then other worlds.  Its like the future equivelent of todays Africa.  Yeah we all originated from there, so in that way its special.  But today its a backwards currupted mess of a continent that the rest of the world has moved beyond.  Then ME3 comes along Shepard suddenly has an uncontrollable hard on for it and theres nothing I can do, cause he's not my character anymore.

Ah... poor Joker. You know I often hear people saying that the words coming out of Shepard's mouth don't reflect the choice they thought they were making. I didn't feel that much before, but man I REALLY felt it then. And a lot of other times in ME3...

Modifié par Doctor Moustache, 16 décembre 2012 - 06:10 .


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J. Reezy wrote...

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My Shepard would not have yelled. He would have said "Be careful who you say that around" though.

But, as others mentioned in other threads. ME3 Shepard is not ours anymore. It is a construct of BioWare and as such, we have very little in the way of roll playing to do with him/her.

That didn't just happen in Mass Efect 3


Yes it did.

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Far worse, this idiot got Shepard killed in Mass Effect 2. Where was the choice to choose another pilot in that game?

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Racist jokes about millions of dead civilians aren't classy, no.

Modifié par Wulfram, 16 décembre 2012 - 06:19 .


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Doctor Moustache wrote...

J. Reezy wrote...

Calinstel wrote...

My Shepard would not have yelled. He would have said "Be careful who you say that around" though.

But, as others mentioned in other threads. ME3 Shepard is not ours anymore. It is a construct of BioWare and as such, we have very little in the way of roll playing to do with him/her.

That didn't just happen in Mass Efect 3


Yes it did.

I'm going to assume that was a joke.

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J. Reezy wrote...

Calinstel wrote...

My Shepard would not have yelled. He would have said "Be careful who you say that around" though.

But, as others mentioned in other threads. ME3 Shepard is not ours anymore. It is a construct of BioWare and as such, we have very little in the way of roll playing to do with him/her.

That didn't just happen in Mass Efect 3


Exactly. A sole survior Shepard didnt even had an option to confront the Illusive Man about what Cerberus did to his squad.

But rose tinted glases prevent some people to realize that.

Modifié par tonnactus, 16 décembre 2012 - 06:24 .


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I wouldn't have hated the seen so much if it weren't for the fact that Shepard doesn't seem to give a crap about ANYTHING else up to that point.  For example, after being forced to wipe out a Batarian colony (Arrival) or letting the entire Quarian race die (if you can't make peace).  Shepard doesn't seem affected much then.  No, only the Asari are worth caring about according to Bioware. 

Modifié par 4stringwizard, 16 décembre 2012 - 06:42 .


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I wish we had player choice to (a)laugh at the joke,i mean it was a humorous observation to say the least or (b)rebuke the statement as ill timed. Depending on how one played there John/Jane Sheperd as tough hardcore nits not ot like we gone terminator on joker but still also the choice to be more lose and more casual.

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Me, always thought he was an ass. His jokes weren't even funny to boot. Wrex was funnier on Surkesh if you take Liara and Garrus with you.

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Wulfram wrote...

Racist jokes about millions of dead civilians aren't classy, no.


Though, there's some truth in it, considering that the asari are spending a good portion of their lives shaking their asses in a bar.

I'd enjoy it if the response was something like this:

Joker: What, too soon?

Shepard: A little, yeah.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 16 décembre 2012 - 07:16 .


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He needed to be shot out an airlock.

Wack bastard.

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Not me. I may or may not find his joke funny. But I've spent the last two and a half games encouraging my crew to be open with their feelings and opinions, even ones I don't necessarily like. I would prefer not to blow up on him over doing just that.

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EnvyTB075 wrote...

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I doubt it...but even if you're right. The reapers harvest a few million asari every day (aside from those people killed in fighting the Reapers). That is not exactly the same as some car accident.


As they do human, salarian, krogan, turian, drell, hanar, elcor, volus, so forgive us for not breaking down in tears for the poor poor Asari, because being reaperised is obviously only bad and sad when done to them, right? After they sat on their Prothean info dump right up until they realised "oh wait, the reapers don't care about our perfect democracy! They don't care that we're super duper peaceful! Shepard, help us! If you don't we'll blame you!"

What was that line? "Losing Thessia wasn't in the playbook"? What makes Thessia so more important than Palaven, Sur'Kesh, Rannoch, Dekunna, Earth or Irune? Why would my Shepard, who found the Asari an annoyance, care one iota about Jokers quip? As far as shes concerned they should have known this was coming and should've come clean earlier. Make some witty comeback, something to show that the player still matters in this story.


My Shepard is pissed at the asari for holding onto the beacon until the eleventh hour and expect him to magically fix EVERYTHING once he reaches it. The same group who had this beacon and then made it illegal for others to do the same thing, imposing heavy sanctions on anyone withholding prothean technology. The same group who, when the Reapers invaded didn't offer any help, just doubled up on defending their borders and refused to come to the bargaining table at the summit between the turians, salarians, and krogan. He's pissed, all right, but he's pissed at the asari, not Joker. And, yes, the Matriarchs are the most responsible, but the planet is a total democracy - even if they didn't know about the beacon, they were still the ones burying their heads in the sand and ignoring Shepard's efforts to fight the Reapers until the Citadel was attacked. And he knows that Thessia fell the moment the Reapers arrived - even if he'd made it offworld with Vendetta, he'd still have to have gotten to the Crucible with it, which means that Thessia would still have fallen.

And with the worlds that have fallen to the Reapers - you know, like EARTH, a planet with at least the possibility of having been Shepard's birthplace, so it makes sense to have attachment - my Shepard knows that he can't waste time taking the fall of a world personally, because if he did, he'd be crippled with self-doubt. Planets are by this point falling regularly. Why is Thessia so personally devestating for Shepard? Shepard wasn't like this for Earth. Or Palaven. And Thessia is not a world that I feel that connected to, so I'm not broken up about it because... okay, yes, it's a horrible thing to befall anyone, but it's happening all over the galaxy.

Likewise, listen to the delivery of Joker's comment. Remember that he's not just reeling from watching Thessia fall but the fact that his father and sister are missing without word and Anderson ordered him 'take care of Shepard' (which, really, dick move, Anderson, putting all that weight on Joker alone, particularly when the romance is Ashley or Kaidan, officers under your command). So when he makes that comment, all of that weight is on him. It's horrible jokes or JOKER is the one cracking under pressure, and they can't afford it.

And, yeah, I made jokes of that nature when I had to be a caregiver from my dying grandmother. You know why? I cope with bad situations with humor. It's black humor at its best, and the jokes are horrible because you're running on fumes and brain cells are only working about fifty/fifty at best. Meaning that you hit the wrong target, you say the wrong thing, and the people who you were trying to cheer up with a laugh instead get mad. It HAPPENS. And because I the player have been through that and understand where Joker's coming from, so does my Shepard. So under no circumstances do I intend to tear him a new one. But instead, I get no choice. I get 'be pissed at Joker' or 'be pissed at Joker' as choices. Just a simple 'not now, Joker' would work for me, because I GET IT. I get what Joker's going through and why he's saying it.

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If I would have been drinking milk then what Joker said would have made it come out of my nose. Shepard just decided to use autodialogue again and was a douche to someone who I thought did a brilliant joke.

Stupid asari had it comin.

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Xellith wrote...

If I would have been drinking milk then what Joker said would have made it come out of my nose. Shepard just decided to use autodialogue again and was a douche to someone who I thought did a brilliant joke.

Stupid asari had it comin.

If only this could have been said to the Asari:

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Because racism is ok as long as it's funny...

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Barquiel wrote...

Because racism is ok as long as it's funny...

It is funny how ineffective the Asari are.
And who the hell cares about Thessia?
If it's not Palaven, Tuchanka or Earth, it's not worth giving a damn.

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I did. Tasteless joke was tasteless. I would have done the same if he pulled that crap about Palavan.

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Barquiel wrote...

Because racism is ok as long as it's funny...


Maybe he found out about the Asari in the hospital? And it's not racism.

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No matter what you think of Joker's comment, you can't deny that he is mostly correct, strictly speaking. While the joke may have been in bad taste, I would still prefer to calmly disagree with him, as opposed to 2 variations of flipping the f**k out.

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Wulfram wrote...

Racist jokes about millions of dead civilians aren't classy, no.


Tell yourself that. I find a number of holocaust jokes to be uproariously hilarious.