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[Gandalf-the-Fabulous]

Not trying to be sexist just curious but for some reason the whole Dragon Age series seems like it is written to appeal more to the female audience, anyone else get this impression? Not having a go at anyone I just find it 'unique', to be fair it would seem most games these days are writen to appeal more to males, I mean we got the far superior Witcher series so I guess it is about time women got a series of games made to appeal more to them, all the more power to ya girlfriend.

Considering the fanbase perhaps it is time to put a female lead on the cover? I mean the canon Warden and Hawke were both depicted as male so perhaps it is time for a female to take the lead? 

[PinkDiamondstl]

The Witcher ...far superior ..ok that game was one big joke..
And yes I would love to see a woman on the cover this time..

[Zippy72]

Grow a vagina and women up.

[Navasha]

Would love to see a female on the cover as the 'canon' protagonist, though I somehow don't see that happening quite yet.

I think from a marketing standpoint, many consumers don't know much about a game before they pick it up. Having a female on the cover might turn away more males who might erroneously believe they have to play as a girl, than it would girls who are sadly probably used to playing male-only roles in many games.

[Tinu]

Haha I wouldn't mind seeing a female on the cover, but I suppose it's better for marketing proposes to go with a male lead.

I want to see trough the eyes of my character and see everything happening in the trailer. I don't need to see bioware's version of the main protagonist.

[Sol Downer]

The Witcher? Ha, good one! On another note, how is DA oriented towards women more than it is towards men? I'd like to believe it's aimed towards both genders equally.

[Allan Schumacher]

Darrah has mentioned that female protagonist will likely be featured in marketing.

[Atalanta]

I like how "not blatantly sexist" = "written for females."

Sigh.

[Gandalf-the-Fabulous]

Navasha wrote...

Would love to see a female on the cover as the 'canon' protagonist, though I somehow don't see that happening quite yet.

I think from a marketing standpoint, many consumers don't know much about a game before they pick it up. Having a female on the cover might turn away more males who might erroneously believe they have to play as a girl, than it would girls who are sadly probably used to playing male-only roles in many games.

Oh I dont know about that, if anything Tomb Raider appealed MORE to men (or boys depending on how you want to look at it) because it was a women on the cover, in fact I believe the game was sold purely on that fact.

Ultimashade wrote...

The Witcher? Ha, good one! On another note, how is DA oriented towards women more than it is towards men? I'd like to believe it's aimed towards both genders equally.

I have no problem if you want to believe that.

[upsettingshorts]

Atalanta wrote...

I like how "not blatantly sexist" = "written for females."

Sigh.

[Pedrak]

I have no doubt the DA series appeals more to female players than the Witcher, if nothing else because it allows for a female PC.


This said, I'd hardly call Dragon Age "female oriented". Characters like Morrigan or Isabela are, at least in terms of appearance, pretty blatant fanservice for males. And most male players seem to enjoy romances just as much as women.

Modifié par Pedrak, 16 décembre 2012 - 05:42 .

[Sir George Parr]

I always find the female protagonist the more interesting of the two. The VAs for Lady Hawke and Fem Shep are very good and the delivery of the dialogue is believable. I do care about these two, which in case of Lady Hawke is a pity as she won't be seen again , the male protagonists on the other hand i struggle to like or care about.
The one thing that got me to take notice of ME 3 was the fem shepherd trailer. It was such a breath of fresh air from the over exposed male shepherd. It did make why did Fem Hawke not get her own trailer, she would have looked so much better in action than man Hawke.
Think that the female protagonist is finally going to used in marketing of the new game and about time it happened.If you have never played a bioware game before you have no idea these wonderful and amazing women even exist.
One good thing to use from Mass Effect 3, would be the reversible sleeve art. one side man shepherd other side Fem shepherd and apply this to DA i. I hope this will be a trend that continues.

[Dragoonlordz]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

Darrah has mentioned that female protagonist will likely be featured in marketing.

I am glad, I never really got why so many developers feel need to put a male character on the front covers and such unless were to assume us men are neive enough to think has female on cover means game is for women which (imho) seems silly. All the guys and girls I know switched their inserts on ME3 box to the female version and as for myself I did same.

Honestly I am quite tired of having the generic guys with short hair big muscles and big guns or swords standing on front covers of games in stupid vanity poses. Take the cover for ME1 and DEHR for example they are both the same just like DA2 and million other games. The guy standing like a moron weidling guns or swords either staring blank faced at you with some explosion in background. I really hope Bioware are more creative this time around, they did okay with female flipside on ME3 but other than gender the cover was generic like so many others.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 16 décembre 2012 - 05:58 .

[Gandalf-the-Fabulous]

Atalanta wrote...

I like how "not blatantly sexist" = "written for females."

Sigh.

I am shocked and insulted that you think that I would even imply such a thing. You do know what they say about assumptions dont you?

[Gandalf-the-Fabulous]

Well to be fair Dragoon Batman has always been male, would look pretty silly if they put a female batman on the cover now wouldnt it?

[upsettingshorts]

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...

You do know what they say about assumptions dont you?

Your original post is an assumption. 

[Gandalf-the-Fabulous]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...

You do know what they say about assumptions dont you?

Your original post is an assumption. 

And here I thought it was a question? Granted its a question I already know the answer to but it is a question none the less.

But lets not derail the thread with pointless semantics, I am sure there are plenty of posts in the "DA2 Haters" thread that you can pick random sentences to snipe at.

Modifié par Gandalf-the-Fabulous, 16 décembre 2012 - 06:08 .

[upsettingshorts]

You're not really fooling anyone, but persist if you must.

[Gazardiel]

Oh I dont know about that, if anything Tomb Raider appealed MORE to
men (or boys depending on how you want to look at it) because it was a
women on the cover, in fact I believe the game was sold purely on that
fact.

To clarify - there is a difference between seeing a desirable woman on the cover of media and seeing a character (who happens to be female) with whom a consumer would want to identify. 

If one defined "appealing to the fangirls" as the inclusion of content that 1) doesn't reduce most female characters to sex objects, 2) offers equal opportunity protagonists, companions, and romances, 3) offers non-heteronormative interactions, and 4) actually fulfills the Bechdel Test, then it's about time there was some "appeal to the fangirls" since video games (and sci fi, and fantasy, and horror, and action, and etc) have been all about catering to straight male "fanboy" fantasies up until now.

Of course, I call it "aiming for equitable appeal that accounts for different players' interests and preferences" and "an educational experience".

Modifié par Gazardiel, 16 décembre 2012 - 06:08 .

[Wulfram]

It's probably written as much for women as men, which makes it fairly uncommon among computer games.

[hoorayforicecream]

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...

You do know what they say about assumptions dont you?

Your original post is an assumption. 

And here I thought it was a question? Granted its a question I already know the answer to but it is a question none the less.

Writing an assumption, then adding "Does anyone agree?" to the end of it does not actually make it a question.

[Atalanta]

What I got from the OP:
Dragon Age seems like it was written for females because (insert bizarre assumption here), so you might as well embrace it, right? I mean, the series is already far inferior to the Witcher, so I GUESS you may as well put a woman on the cover. (Insert patronizing idiom here.)

Modifié par Atalanta, 16 décembre 2012 - 06:11 .

[Gazardiel]

And re: The Witcher - it is a fun game with interesting systems for combat (love the combos), alchemy, and skills. But oh ho ho, at the first suggestion of male romance options (and their corresponding collectible nekkid sexeh cards), the fanboys brought the canon-hammer down and insisted that Geralt's "collection" of women was an integral part of the story. Forgive me for assuming anything, but when I see nothing posted about gameplay to compare the two IPs and only a fangirl/fanboy focused question, it really makes me wonder how much the "collectible cards" made it superior for the OP rather than any mechanics or story.