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#76
Allan Schumacher

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We'd be better served restricting access and charging more (which would make the horse race analogy more appropriate).

Of course, since alternatives are more readily available (whether the game itself via piracy, or just competing games), the analogue starts to fall apart. There's also a lack of cultural background (and the posh appeal), where something like Dragon Age (unfortunately) isn't going to compare to the Belmont Stakes.


Now, looking at what this does do:

- It provides an innate barrier to someone that hasn't even bought the other games. If we restrict it to DAO fans, that about 4 or so million. If we restrict it to DA2, that's about 2 million or so? (I'm sure someone that hates DA2 has the numbers handy). Furthermore, if we require both, then it's the intersection of both groups.

Of course, we're only talking about those that have actually purchased the game. If we restrict to those that have actually beaten the game, our total eligible purchaser base at this point would be about 1 million people.

Now, for the grognards that just HAVE to play DA3, this probably won't cause too much of a barrier (they have probably already played both). You're also not seeing much benefit. To the person that sees DA3 and thinks it might be interesting, well... they're picking up something else instead.

We might draw some people, but if they don't like one of DAO/DA2 then they put themselves out of contention for DA3 implicitly, despite the fact that DA3 may be just the perfect game for them.


Having said that, I'm pretty sure this thread is in jest, but this would be a pretty good way to ensure the franchise becomes irrelevant IMO.

Modifié par Allan Schumacher, 18 décembre 2012 - 03:47 .


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Nashimura

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I cant even believe a dev came in here and gave a well thought out answer to this mental topic.

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the op is an epic fail

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Blight Nug

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Interesting idea. Maybe this can work for some other games, in the future.
I just don't think it works for DA.
It would make more sense for a franchise that follows one character closely.
Since each DA games aren't tied so closely together, it doesn't make sense to create the barrier as far as gaming experience goes.

I could see it work for the ME trilogy actually.

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No
1) Bioware still won't let me register my copy of ME3 which I bought (new) on the week of release (and the whole idea of needing to check registration is dumb on a console game).
2) Every game company wants more sales. They want to sell to people who didn't buy the previous games (which is why ME3 was claimed to be a great starting point ...)

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^

I feel your pain on the ME3 registration. I have STILL not been able to register my copy and, hence, do anything on the ME3 forums because of it.

Allan, you make a good point. This would really only work if we mirror the "elite" experience totally.

So... you'd not only need a completed version of DA:O or DA2 registered in order to play DA3... it would also cost $250.

It would be the deluxe experience, though. Mod kit included for PC players. DLC that didn't cost money, that was just available for free. Free swag for the collector's out there Replayability for the completionists.

I just think if there are people who refer to RPG players as snobs, we should at least have the exclusive status symbol to accompany it. Otherwise... what's the benefit of being a snob?

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I just don't think people that haven't played DAO or DA2 will buy DA3. It's just not going to happen. ME3 they put a huge focus on bringing in other players, yet it didn't sell that much more than ME2.

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rapscallioness wrote...

wow, we are starving for DA3 info..



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If this were a series like ME, where the same character carried over 3 games and you made choices for that one character that might carry over, I'd be right in line for this.

But, this is not the same character and I don't see the need. I have both games, but I don't always use a previous save to play DA2. They were complete on their own so nope, this is not logical.

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mopotter wrote...

But, this is not the same character and I don't see the need. I have both games, but I don't always use a previous save to play DA2. They were complete on their own so nope, this is not logical.


Apollo was the Greek god of Logic. Grecian worshippers devoted their lives to understanding the world through Logic, praising his name to help give insight into the world through his divine power.

Yet if you ask a god for something and they don't give it to you, then it is not logical to worship him at all. In fact, religion in general requires faith, the near-antithesis of logic. To worship a god of logic is an action of pure irrationality.

The most devoted worshippers of Apollo, then, must be the delusional and insane.

Modifié par Fast Jimmy, 21 décembre 2012 - 06:58 .


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The idea might be undoable for a full game but I'd be entertained by an Awakening-level expansion that only players of all three games could unlock (and pay a hefty price for the privilege). It would, of course, have epic multi-player weapons included so everyone else could tell what an uber DA player you were.

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Fast Jimmy wrote...

mopotter wrote...

But, this is not the same character and I don't see the need. I have both games, but I don't always use a previous save to play DA2. They were complete on their own so nope, this is not logical.


Apollo was the Greek god of Logic. Grecian worshippers devoted their lives to understanding the world through Logic, praising his name to help give insight into the world through his divine power.

Yet if you ask a god for something and they don't give it to you, then it is not logical to worship him at all. In fact, religion in general requires faith, the near-antithesis of logic. To worship a god of logic is an action of pure irrationality.

The most devoted worshippers of Apollo, then, must be the delusional and insane.


Actually Apollo is the god of Wisdom, not necessarily logic. Whatever, worshiping Apollo or other ancient gods wasn't necessarily because of demanding something physical.

Praising/worshiping logic is based on philosophies inspired by Heraclitus or the Stoics and they (majorly) ask for nothing.

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Fast Jimmy wrote...

Allan, you make a good point. This would really only work if we mirror the "elite" experience totally.

So... you'd not only need a completed version of DA:O or DA2 registered in order to play DA3... it would also cost $250.


I'm shocked that we haven't seen people get that far in your thread (without reading the final paragraph), choke, spray coffee all over their monitor and keyboard and post abuse at you before organising a lynch mob. :P

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Oooooh! A lynch mob! What's that? Like a flash mob? It could be really good publicity for the game!