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Yes the transition from Yahg to Liara was seamless, no one knew about the change. You are just making excuses now.

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o Ventus wrote...

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And even with them, filing is still an issue as liara said in Lothsb.


So Glyph, the VI created explicitly to help the Broker in his Broker duties, can't help the Broker?

Not to help the SB be as good as the last SB in just 6 months.


I have no idea why you keep bringing up the timeframe. You're fully aware that Liara becoming the Broker was seamless, right?


The old SB didn't know about the bomb, Cronos station or the beacon either. But Liara should find these things out within 6 months? It is also stated in LotSb that TIM has eliminated all information leaks.

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Steelcan wrote...

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]1. How would she know? It just happens. BEing a sbdoesnto mean being onipotant. Traynor found out about it by chance by hear a distress call and cross referancing it with EDI.
2. As for the coup, you do understand that at that time She was helping Shepard with Tuchuncka at the time. The issue withthe females also is based on her focus on the reapers. And The tuchunka bomb as issue of being a new sb and not going throught the massive info the sb had in time before destroying the sb's ship.
And how would she or anyone no about sactuary....There were no leaks of info on the place.
The beacon is also about her just becoming a sb and not going throught the massive info the sb had in time before destroying the sb's ship.

. I said I'd let the first two slide.  She had top level access to all the Council governments, she had the ability to find out about the females, beacon, and bomb.  And she could have just sent an agent to Sanctuary and had report back what he saw.  Not difficult, at all.

She has to know they exsist first to reshearch it. How is she going to suddenly know that info is there.Just becauseyou have a book avalible does not mean you know every thing in that book. That saying just because you havea dictionaly, you should know every wordand meaning in it.

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Steelcan wrote...

Yes the transition from Yahg to Liara was seamless, no one knew about the change. You are just making excuses now.

That an issue of knowing who the sb is, not if the new sb did the old sb work at the same quality.

Modifié par dreman9999, 17 décembre 2012 - 04:09 .


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Barquiel wrote...

The old SB didn't know about the bomb, Cronos station or the beacon either. But Liara should find these things out within 6 months? It is also stated in LotSb that TIM has eliminated all information leaks.


According to who? You? What authority do you have?

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. Well that is the shadow brokers job isn't it?  To know everything that's going on, and these would be really big things to keep track of.

Modifié par Steelcan, 17 décembre 2012 - 04:13 .


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dreman9999 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Yes the transition from Yahg to Liara was seamless, no one knew about the change. You are just making excuses now.

That an issue of knowing who the sb is, not if the new sb did the old sb work at the same quality.

. So she's inferior to the old SB.

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o Ventus wrote...

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The old SB didn't know about the bomb, Cronos station or the beacon either. But Liara should find these things out within 6 months? It is also stated in LotSb that TIM has eliminated all information leaks.


According to who? You? What authority do you have?


According to the LotSB "mission complete" screen? Or do you think TIM is lying?

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Barquiel wrote...
According to the LotSB "mission complete" screen? Or do you think TIM is lying?

Actually, I do think TIM does nothing but lie. :D

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If you're actually stupid enough to assume that more than a fraction of those civilians have any sort of firearms or combat training, sure.

but like I said, "if you're stupid enough".

All the asari are said to have some biotic skills - probably on par with the kids from Grissom Academy.
That said, even during WWII many profesions were exempt from conscription. Miners, farmers, seamen, scientists, dock workers etc. did not serve in the army. In fact, many conscripts were not send to military units, but have to serve in coal mines.
Chances are many of the refugees can help the war effort in some way.

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Well apparently Cerberus hit her ship just after Hackett had Shepard thrown in lock up for helping him, and she had nowhere to go so she came to Earth and hit all the Alliance red tape about she couldn't visit Shepard, and her equipment was going to be installed on the Normandy, and Glyph was going to be running the show while she was on Mars and Super Mac didn't figure out what she was doing. And Feron was running part of the show in another location. So....

That's what happened. And Super Mac forgot how much a Prothean expert knows about protheans with a PhD in Prothean Studies from Serrice University because all Asari do is shake their asses in sleazy bars for Aliens.


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Absolutely.  The inane messages you read on Liara's terminal show her to be mainly some kind of wide-eyed blue Valley Girl-still.  She supposedly grew up a lot between ME1 and 3 and became pretty proficient at a lot of things, but then she has no information on Sur'kesh (which Wrex chastises her for), has no idea where TIM is (no one even seems to look for him where he always seems to be), has no idea about really anything.  One stupid thing is the Barla Von mission.  Liara sends you to Barla Von who says there are people the Shadow Broker says can help-why the F didn't Liara just tell you about it?  Oh, then there'd be no reason to talk to Barla Von.

It's something I didn't realize other people didn't know-BW did turn Liara into a platform for showing off female appendages.  It's obvious if you play Mars with one character with Liara as an LI and another where she is not the LI.  If Liara is the LI, it's really obvious.  Shepard does not look at Liara's face.  Shepard's eyes are fixated on Liara's bazooms.  I fully expected Shepard to grab hold of one of them.  Blue behinds are one thing, Mars displays two things.

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o Ventus wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

The old SB didn't know about the bomb, Cronos station or the beacon either. But Liara should find these things out within 6 months? It is also stated in LotSb that TIM has eliminated all information leaks.


According to who? You? What authority do you have?

You really think that someone can learn everything in the SB database, a data base that hold info for countless mallenia, in just 6 months?

Added,the beacon and the tuchanka bomb put in the syatem well before the yahg sb's time.

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The only thing that I wanted to know...

How does Wrex know that Liara is the Shadowbroker?

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klarabella wrote...

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According to the LotSB "mission complete" screen? Or do you think TIM is lying?

Actually, I do think TIM does nothing but lie. :D


OK, I admit that TIM isn't the most honest person in the galaxy ;)

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uzivatel wrote...

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If you're actually stupid enough to assume that more than a fraction of those civilians have any sort of firearms or combat training, sure.

but like I said, "if you're stupid enough".

All the asari are said to have some biotic skills - probably on par with the kids from Grissom Academy.
That said, even during WWII many profesions were exempt from conscription. Miners, farmers, seamen, scientists, dock workers etc. did not serve in the army. In fact, many conscripts were not send to military units, but have to serve in coal mines.
Chances are many of the refugees can help the war effort in some way.

. All Asari have biotics, not all Asari are capable of using them effectively, see Liara ME1

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Steelcan wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Yes the transition from Yahg to Liara was seamless, no one knew about the change. You are just making excuses now.

That an issue of knowing who the sb is, not if the new sb did the old sb work at the same quality.

. So she's inferior to the old SB.

Seriously, you think someone who was only doing something for only 6 months is going to be as good as someone who was doing it for decades?

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Steelcan wrote...

uzivatel wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

If you're actually stupid enough to assume that more than a fraction of those civilians have any sort of firearms or combat training, sure.

but like I said, "if you're stupid enough".

All the asari are said to have some biotic skills - probably on par with the kids from Grissom Academy.
That said, even during WWII many profesions were exempt from conscription. Miners, farmers, seamen, scientists, dock workers etc. did not serve in the army. In fact, many conscripts were not send to military units, but have to serve in coal mines.
Chances are many of the refugees can help the war effort in some way.

. All Asari have biotics, not all Asari are capable of using them effectively, see Liara ME1

Liara in ME1 can destroy enitre rooms of people.

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dreman9999 wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

The old SB didn't know about the bomb, Cronos station or the beacon either. But Liara should find these things out within 6 months? It is also stated in LotSb that TIM has eliminated all information leaks.

According to who? You? What authority do you have?

You really think that someone can learn everything in the SB database, a data base that hold info for countless mallenia, in just 6 months?

Added,the beacon and the tuchanka bomb put in the syatem well before the yahg sb's time.

. The SB would still know those things, and I guess glyph is just there to be useless then, seeing as Liara has to be the one to read everything, glyph can provide relevant data at all

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dreman9999 wrote...
]You really think that someone can learn everything in the SB database, a data base that hold info for countless mallenia, in just 6 months?

That's what VIs are for. Glyph should be able to find patterns in data and I'm sure a former archeologist does have some means to narrow the results down.

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dreman9999 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

uzivatel wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

If you're actually stupid enough to assume that more than a fraction of those civilians have any sort of firearms or combat training, sure.
but like I said, "if you're stupid enough".

All the asari are said to have some biotic skills - probably on par with the kids from Grissom Academy.
That said, even during WWII many profesions were exempt from conscription. Miners, farmers, seamen, scientists, dock workers etc. did not serve in the army. In fact, many conscripts were not send to military units, but have to serve in coal mines.
Chances are many of the refugees can help the war effort in some way.

. All Asari have biotics, not all Asari are capable of using them effectively, see Liara ME1

Liara in ME1 can destroy enitre rooms of people.

. She tells you that not all Asari develop them, and she was terrible, all she did was fall over and die

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The only thing that I wanted to know...

How does Wrex know that Liara is the Shadowbroker?

You do know that Wrex talks with Mordin and other crew memeber who know who the SB is.

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dreman9999 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

uzivatel wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

If you're actually stupid enough to assume that more than a fraction of those civilians have any sort of firearms or combat training, sure.

but like I said, "if you're stupid enough".

All the asari are said to have some biotic skills - probably on par with the kids from Grissom Academy.
That said, even during WWII many profesions were exempt from conscription. Miners, farmers, seamen, scientists, dock workers etc. did not serve in the army. In fact, many conscripts were not send to military units, but have to serve in coal mines.
Chances are many of the refugees can help the war effort in some way.

. All Asari have biotics, not all Asari are capable of using them effectively, see Liara ME1

Liara in ME1 can destroy enitre rooms of people.


Depens if an asari individual is training her biotics. 

A person who never uses biotics can probally throw around a football. (I think)
But then Liara says that every asari school teaches basic biotics, But I don't think they are meaning lethal moves with that. 

Ah, that would make sense, always asked myself why Wrex knows that. Thank you.

Modifié par Mark Alarton, 17 décembre 2012 - 04:23 .


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dreman9999 wrote...
Liara in ME1 can destroy enitre rooms of people.

Every powerful biotic can do that.

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Steelcan wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

uzivatel wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

If you're actually stupid enough to assume that more than a fraction of those civilians have any sort of firearms or combat training, sure.
but like I said, "if you're stupid enough".

All the asari are said to have some biotic skills - probably on par with the kids from Grissom Academy.
That said, even during WWII many profesions were exempt from conscription. Miners, farmers, seamen, scientists, dock workers etc. did not serve in the army. In fact, many conscripts were not send to military units, but have to serve in coal mines.
Chances are many of the refugees can help the war effort in some way.

. All Asari have biotics, not all Asari are capable of using them effectively, see Liara ME1

Liara in ME1 can destroy enitre rooms of people.

. She tells you that not all Asari develop them, and she was terrible, all she did was fall over and die

1. She never said she was bad atusing here biotics. If fact she tells you her has a history of using them to protect her self from pirates.
2. Yes, she said not every asari develops their biotic....But she clearly said she developed herbiotic for combat.
3. Added, going by what she can do in the game, aka singularity through entire rooms and how op biotics are in ME1, it'sclear she know how to use them in ME1.

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klarabella wrote...

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Liara in ME1 can destroy enitre rooms of people.

Every powerful biotic can do that.

That still means she is a capable biotic.