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[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

Awesome. I beat Letho, and my sword lost its runes....


In other news, I gave Iorveth his sword (a sense of honor for helping me find Letho). Although this led to some of Loredo's men getting killed, and a lot of bad **** happening in Flotsam. Triss is now missing, and Cedric has given me the information that I need. I went and spoke with both Roche and Iorveth.

In the end, I choose... to help Iorveth. He seems more intent on quickly retrieving Triss and getting to Letho. And while I don't approve of their methods, maybe it's about freaking time they get their own independent state just so that this whole damned thing stops. And if a human, mutant or otherwise, helps them do it, well then maybe they won't be such pissants in the future. Plus Roche pissed me off for screwing things up at the Elven ruins. Kings are dying and disputes are inevitable, and if I can soften the Scoia'Tael's stance and act as mediator, maybe things will get better.

Although his decision to press on against Loredo WAS appealing, as that sack of turd needs justice as much as the next guy.

Since you are already past the point I suppose now would be ok to tell you that you may want to keep a manual save just before the encounter with Letho and the point where you decide to give Iorveth his sword, if you are still able to of course.

Probably information you would have wanted before the encounter I know but I diddnt really want to run the risk of spoiling anything for you, still if you still have your autosaves before this point hopefully you will have one close enough to the point.

Haplose wrote...

And yea, leaving Loredo to his schemes feels kinda bad... but on the upside, perhaps chapter 2 is slighly more interesting with Iorveth... and you get to reunite with some more old friends

I am sure the majority would probably agree with you, but then they would be wrong too. I joke of course as everyone has different preferences but personally I found the decision to join Roche to make for a better (and for me) a more interesting experience. Both have their moments though for some reason I feel as if I should issue a warning about a few moments in Iorveth's path, I wont say what these moments are but needless to say I did find myself "/facepalming" at quite a few of them, I am pretty sure you can guess what these moments are, as for Allan I am pretty sure you will find out.

Allan Schumacher wrote...

Either is a good choice but what I really like about Roche's side is more involved you are with politics not that you won't be on Iorveth's side.

I'd like to think either side is a good choice, given that it'd be a questionable decision to have one of the story arcs be significantly better than the others! Fans wouldn't be so happy with this if one choice was much less interesting.

I think the 2 arcs appeal to different sides of the fanbase with one side wanting one thing out of the game and other side appreciating other things about the game, I guess it is only natural that most who play the game are going to enjoy one side more than the other, that being said both sides are well worth experiencing and you probably will want to see them both.

[Addai]

Mr Mxyzptlk wrote...

Both have their moments though for some reason I feel as if I should issue a warning about a few moments in Iorveth's path, I wont say what these moments are but needless to say I did find myself "/facepalming" at quite a few of them, I am pretty sure you can guess what these moments are, as for Allan I am pretty sure you will find out.

Iorveth's path is my canon game and I have no idea what you're talking about.

For me the choice was easy because it was mostly about pursuing Triss' captors at this point.  As I said somewhere, maybe on the TW1 thread, I like how the choice is presented because you're not making it solely based on external factors but on Geralt's motivations- either he prioritizes helping a friend or keeping his word to Roche.  It's a more complex choice than just "I'm for the Blue Stripes" or "I'm for the Scoia'tael."  Which is the real brilliance of TW2, in that many of the quests aren't straightforward.

[Cyberfrog81]

Both main paths are great. Anyone who has only one playthrough is missing out.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Mr Mxyzptlk wrote...
Both have their moments though for some reason I feel as if I should issue a warning about a few moments in Iorveth's path, I wont say what these moments are but needless to say I did find myself "/facepalming" at quite a few of them, I am pretty sure you can guess what these moments are, as for Allan I am pretty sure you will find out.
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I think I know what you are talking about, and I'll only say that they weren't there for their own sake. They were there for a reason.

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Addai67 wrote...

Mr Mxyzptlk wrote...

Both have their moments though for some reason I feel as if I should issue a warning about a few moments in Iorveth's path, I wont say what these moments are but needless to say I did find myself "/facepalming" at quite a few of them, I am pretty sure you can guess what these moments are, as for Allan I am pretty sure you will find out.

Iorveth's path is my canon game and I have no idea what you're talking about.

And I am not going to explain it here as I am trying to avoid revealing spoilers. But that being said just give it some time as I am sure it will be brought up soon.

Addai67 wrote...

For me the choice was easy because it was mostly about pursuing Triss' captors at this point.  As I said somewhere, maybe on the TW1 thread, I like how the choice is presented because you're not making it solely based on external factors but on Geralt's motivations- either he prioritizes helping a friend or keeping his word to Roche.  It's a more complex choice than just "I'm for the Blue Stripes" or "I'm for the Scoia'tael."  Which is the real brilliance of TW2, in that many of the quests aren't straightforward.

Personally for me the choice to side with Roche was the obvious pick as our goals were intertwined, at the end of act one finding Letho was the key to finding Triss so siding with Roche felt like the natural thing to do, besides I kind of punched Iorveth in the throat during the confrontation with Letho so siding with a bunch of pissed off Scoia'tael seemed like a bad idea.

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

I think I know what you are talking about, and I'll only say that they weren't there for their own sake. They were there for a reason.

Hmmm, you might need to send me that reason in a PM.

[Brockololly]

Allan Schumacher wrote...
I'd like to think either side is a good choice, given that it'd be a questionable decision to have one of the story arcs be significantly better than the others! Fans wouldn't be so happy with this if one choice was much less interesting.

Yeah, both Roche and Iorveth's paths are quite good. I ended up doing Roche first and Iorveth's path second. I kind of liked doing it that way since certain moments in Iorveth's playthrough led to certain revelations which filled in some story gaps and put certain choices I made during my first playthrough in a totally different light. I'm thinking of one thing in particular that's revealed in Iorveth's side of things which you'd have very little clue of having done Roche's side first.

But that's what I liked about TW2's narrative split. Some events will end up happening no matter what, but you're able to see those events from different points of view and the actions you take will be colored by the limited amount of information you might have. Then from a metagaming perspective you get a more complete picture having played it twice.

Allan Schumacher wrote...
End up in a whole bunch of sequences, including some strange moments where I control other  NPCs. A bit odd, but whatever.

I liked those moments. They don't happen often so they're odd from that angle but I preferred those little moments as opposed to just lumping them into a cutscene or shoehorning Geralt in to view those events.

Modifié par Brockololly, 21 décembre 2012 - 07:33 .

[Allan Schumacher]

Odd mostly because I just didn't expect it. It's the type of moment where I'm definitely not against a cutscene either, however, since it's not the character I am controlling. It was a bit interesting with Triss (although at the same time a bit more jarring), because I can ask all but one of the questions based on... the choices that I want to make, not Triss. However, it does seem to lend itself to some replayability. It's of the scale of minor nitpick though.

I'm not the biggest fan of the combat system as it stands, so having me to a fairly "easy mode" fight against Roche came across as a bit anti-climactic to me.

[Dragoonlordz]

Did you go with Triss to the garden or let her go on her own out of curiosity?

[Allan Schumacher]

I went with Triss to the garden. I gave her the rose too.

[Eurypterid]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

I went with Triss to the garden. I gave her the rose too.

Good decision. Triss rocks.

[Dragoonlordz]

I liked the path you took Ioveths one some would say and felt same as you do about him it seems. I considered it less Iorveths path and more Saskia's path, that Iorveth just happened to be present on that path. I also do not consider it the non-human path either as I do not think it is black and white situations.

Keep us informed, it is interesting to see how you feel about events and story as you go along.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 21 décembre 2012 - 11:29 .

[Nerevar-as]

Eurypterid wrote...

Allan Schumacher wrote...

I went with Triss to the garden. I gave her the rose too.

Good decision. Triss rocks.

No, she doesn´t.

And the bath scene is really jarring considering why they go there in the first place. Won´t repeat it.

Modifié par Nerevar-as, 21 décembre 2012 - 11:38 .

[Eurypterid]

Nerevar-as wrote...

No, she doesn´t.

Yes, she does. Aren't opinions great? 

[LPPrince]

If there is ever a point in which the character Triss sways back and forth, the comment, "Triss rocks" can be seen as a factual statement.

*runs*

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

Odd mostly because I just didn't expect it. It's the type of moment where I'm definitely not against a cutscene either, however, since it's not the character I am controlling. It was a bit interesting with Triss (although at the same time a bit more jarring), because I can ask all but one of the questions based on... the choices that I want to make, not Triss. However, it does seem to lend itself to some replayability. It's of the scale of minor nitpick though.

Personally I have mixed feelings about this design choice, they were definately a welcome addition but it does enter dangerous territory where you start deciding the actions of other characters within the story, do you decide based on what you would want them to do or do you decide based on what you think the character you are controlling would do in that situation? Fortunately these decisions dont really change anything in the larger narrative so you wont really end up with situations where certain characters take ill concieved courses of action because the player feels it best that the character he is currently controlling fails in his current endeavor.

Still I did enjoy these moments, especially the negotiation as Henselt, made my decisions based on what I thought the character would do and say which made for a pretty awesome scene.

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Did you go with Triss to the garden or let her go on her own out of curiosity?

Does this end up resulting in anything different? I always traveled with her to the Garden and always assumed if I diddnt she would just be waiting for me at the garden till I am ready.

Dragoonlordz wrote...

I liked the path you took Ioveths one some would say and felt same as you do about him it seems. I considered it less Iorveths path and more Saskia's path, that Iorveth just happened to be present on that path. I also do not consider it the non-human path either as I do not think it is black and white situations.

Keep us informed, it is interesting to see how you feel about events and story as you go along.

Well in that case can you really consider it Roche's path either? Or even Saskia's for that matter? Geralt still has his own goals and these are just the people he chooses to associate with.

[Chromie]

Mr Mxyzptlk wrote...
Does this end up resulting in anything different? I always traveled with her to the Garden and always assumed if I diddnt she would just be waiting for me at the garden till I am ready.t matter?

No idea but funny thing if you choose to screw around in the bathhouse you get a magic resistance bonus. 

[Nerevar-as]

Considering how many sorceresses Geralt has slept with, by this time he should be completely immune. There was also a joke around that he only survived his arguments with Yenn thanks to being a witcher.

[HoonDing]

There are so many more attractive and more powerful sorceresses in the Witcher universe.

BURN TRISS

Modifié par HoonDing, 22 décembre 2012 - 05:04 .

[Addai]

I think you meant to say conniving and b*tchy.  :innocent:

Modifié par Addai67, 22 décembre 2012 - 07:53 .

[Nerevar-as]

When the Lodge or other political power are concerned, Yenn was the only one who pur rhose she loved first.

[Luxorek]

Soo... whatcha doing now Allan ? Finished the game already ? Taking a Holiday break ?

Modifié par Luxorek, 24 décembre 2012 - 12:03 .

[Allan Schumacher]

In Act 3 now.

The difficulty seems to have scaled quite extensively.  Rotfiends that were not much of a problem now appear to be killing me in 3-4 hits.

Modifié par Allan Schumacher, 24 décembre 2012 - 04:45 .

[Savber100]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

In Act 3 now.

The difficulty seems to have scaled quite extensively.  Rotfiends that were not much of a problem now appear to be killing me in 3-4 hits.

Gosh. Fast gamer aren't you? 

How did you like the Iovereth plotline? Any fun or memorable moments? 

[Allan Schumacher]

I really enjoyed Act 2. I'll definitely have to replay the game.

The only real issue I have with the choice is that the whole ambush scene kind of just comes across as "We need to create a situation that makes Roche seem like a bit more of a d-bag so that the idea of siding with the Scoia'Tael doesn't seem like a complete affront." On the plus side, at least it was some of Loredo's dumbasses so it's at least something I can make sense out of.


I had fun sliding into the mist (both to find Triss, as well as to wrap up the plot), and with some sweet mutagens and sword upgrades, the fight against Hemselt was a lot of fun.

Unfortunately I saw the Saskia bit after the defense coming.


Got into the main city of Loc Muinne, and did the quest investigating the sorcerer for Cynthia. Ended up using the apparatus to look in on Saskia.

My Geralt has pretty much softened to Saskia's perspective. He's tired of the civil war. He'll likely protect her identity. Although I suppose I should apologize for stabbing her in the mouth with my sword earlier!