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[chidingewe8036]

If the fanbase remains divided on this topic the result will be a mediocre game, with mediocre reviews, mediocre profit, a mediocre story, and a mediocre following.

1) Some want Shepard back
2) Some want ME4 to be a prequel
3) Some want ME4 to be set millions of years in the future or whatever that is all about
4) Some want to play as Liara, Wrex, and Thane's races ummmmm ok whatever
5) Some don't give a crap anymore
6) and some seem as though they want a brand new look to Mass Effect

as long as this remains the issue Bioware will do whatever they want to do and deliver some half arsed forced trilogy with the Mass Effect title slapped on it that will dissolve into mediocrity, not a really good starting point for the next game.

I am just one voice but I really hope for all of our sakes that the Mass Effect fanbase and Bioware themeselves thread carefully with this one, we don't want a repeat ME3. ME3 has more flaws than it has good qualities and if they are not addressed by it's creators the next game will be MEDIOCRE at best.

What is that Garrus said? Yell loud enough and............well if you played the game you know the rest

[David7204]

Tell me, what exactly do other games qualify as if ME 3 has "more flaws then good qualities"?

[Pedrak]

Fanbases are, by definition, divided.
And they want always everything and the opposite of everything. Typically, they want something without realizing the implications (ex. what would be cool, not what can actually be done).
They want full voice acting but also the same amount of content and dialogue that was present with a silent protagonist.
They want faster combat, but not too action-y.
They want mature, epic, dramatic games, but the ending shouldn't be too dark or depressing.
They want a sequel where the mutually-exclusive choices made in the previous game, leading to radically different outcomes ( galaxy-changing, history-shaping, life-altering outcomes), will all have a major impact.

It's like herding cats.

Modifié par Pedrak, 17 décembre 2012 - 01:22 .

[Linkenski]

Mass Effect 3 certainly had more noticable major flaws than ME2, but it's still an overall amazing game. The negativism on these forums just make everything worse. Heck, i think most of us would've watched the endings when the game came out, and just accept it if we hadn't looked at the threads in here. (that¨'s my experience anyway)

Bioware said, there will not be a Shepard in ME4, and nor will there be someone like him/her as a protagonist.

I'd say that's one thing they won't change by listening to fan suggestions.

I even think Bioware's decision to let ME3 be "The end of Shepards journey" was to make sure that we or even EA couldn't force them into milking the franchise with a continuation of his story.

ME4 will be fresh in some way.

[Seival]

(1) ME3 has less flaws than any game ever developed.
(2) Shepard's story is over. Community has to deal with it.

[chidingewe8036]

Let me reiterate in response to david..........

[quote]chidingewe8036 wrote...

If the fanbase remains divided on this topic the result will be a mediocre game, with mediocre reviews, mediocre profit, a mediocre story, and a mediocre following.

1) Some want Shepard back
2) Some want ME4 to be a prequel
3) Some want ME4 to be set millions of years in the future or whatever that is all about
4) Some want to play as Liara, Wrex, and Thane's races ummmmm ok whatever
5) Some don't give a crap anymore
6) and some seem as though they want a brand new look to Mass Effect

as long as this remains the issue Bioware will do whatever they want to do and deliver some half arsed forced trilogy with the Mass Effect title slapped on it that will dissolve into mediocrity, not a really good starting point for the next game.

Modifié par chidingewe8036, 17 décembre 2012 - 01:26 .

[David7204]

No it won't. Look, the fanbase is stupid. 99% of suggestions I've seen here would make the game worse.

[Pee Jae]

Seival wrote...

(2) Shepard's story is over. Community has to deal with it.

[Liamv2]

Seival wrote...

(1) ME3 has less flaws than any game ever developed.
(2) Shepard's story is over. Community has to deal with it.

I aggre with the second one the first one is debatable

[Seival]

David7204 wrote...

Look, the fanbase is stupid. 99% of suggestions I've seen here would make the game worse.

+1

[chidingewe8036]

David7204 wrote...

No it won't. Look, the fanbase is stupid. 99% of suggestions I've seen here would make the game worse.

2) Some want ME4 to be a prequel
3) Some want ME4 to be set millions of years in the future or whatever that is all about
4) Some want to play as Liara, Wrex, and Thane's races ummmmm ok whatever
6) and some seem as though they want a brand new look to Mass Effect

These are cool ideas but too soon with ME3's ending as it stands now.

[chidingewe8036]

So Shepard's story is over because Bioware said it was or because 2 out of the 3 endings said it was????

Modifié par chidingewe8036, 17 décembre 2012 - 01:35 .

[M Hedonist]

Seival wrote...

(1) ME3 has less flaws than any game ever developed.

Nevermind ridiculous amounts of auto-dialogue, shoehorned multiplayer, botched up journal system, absence of real side quests and a plethora of other things.

[d-boy15]

Sauruz wrote...

Seival wrote...

(1) ME3 has less flaws than any game ever developed.

Nevermind ridiculous amounts of auto-dialogue, shoehorned multiplayer, botched up journal system, absence of real side quests and a plethora of other things.

well... you surprise?

I guess you didn't know him.

Modifié par d-boy15, 17 décembre 2012 - 01:40 .

[David7204]

Given that 99% of games in existence feature nothing but 'autodialogue' as standard (and many RPGs continually praised here have a hell of a lot more of it than ME 3, such as the Witcher 2), and that the journal system is bad but really a minor annoyance at the worst, that's good news.

Modifié par David7204, 17 décembre 2012 - 01:43 .

[crimzontearz]

....wow.....no Seival, just no...this is a new level of dumbness even for you

[Dragoonlordz]

No they won't. Fanbases are fickle and reactionary.

ME4 wil be made how they (Bioware) wish and you will just decide if you want to buy it or not.

Even if you do not, I can promise you millions of others will.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 17 décembre 2012 - 02:09 .

[pablosplinter]

[violation of Rule #6 removed]

Modifié par Ninja Stan, 18 décembre 2012 - 12:45 .

[M Hedonist]

David7204 wrote...

Given that 99% of games in existence feature nothing but 'autodialogue' as standard (and many RPGs continually praised here have a hell of a lot more of it than ME 3, such as the Witcher 2), and that the journal system is bad but really a minor annoyance at the worst, that's good news.

Well, I haven't said 99% of all games are better than ME3, did I?
I am simply dismissing the ridiculous notion that ME3 is the best game ever made.

[Ieldra]

I do not want Shepard, or anything of him (or her), in the next game. I want something new.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 17 décembre 2012 - 01:55 .

[David7204]

I think you may have misunderstood. What I meant was that if those are your biggest complaints then you yourself put Mass Effect into the top 1% of games. Since 99% of games have problems far worse. See?

[M Hedonist]

David7204 wrote...

I think you may have misunderstood. What I meant was that if those are your biggest complaints then you yourself put Mass Effect into the top 1% of games. Since 99% of games have problems far worse. See?

Well, 99% of games are crap (story-telling-wise), if you count all the games that get released for iPod and what not every day.

[K2LU533]

No

[Pedrak]

chidingewe8036 wrote...

So Shepard's story is over because Bioware said it was or because 2 out of the 3 endings said it was????

Because:

1) BioWare says it's over
2) He explicitly dies in three endings out of four - and he can actually die in the fourth too
3) Narratively, he has nowhere to go. His story is over, and after ME3 - which had "final act for Shepard" written all over it - everything would feel like an anticlimax.

[Voodoo2015]

How you can make a sequel if one chooses refuse. Everyone dies in that One. Is it another 50,000 years into the future then? Shall we play like an stupid jellyfish?