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[Belisarius25]

On one hand, I'd love to continue the adventures of my (main) Shepard to see where the story could go.

On the other, I think I'll be a lot less likely to nerd rage if his story ends here and I can fill in the details myself, with any other ME stories being told leaving the details vague. I don't really think Bioware could properly address the ME3 endings, having seen the mixed results in ME3 (particularly w/regards to the Suicide mission).

All that said, I'd buy a non-Shepard ME game if it looked good.

[Ironhandjustice]

chidingewe8036 wrote...

Everyone seems to overlook Shepard's death in the suicide mission if ME4 brings back Shepard the same will be for Shepard's ME3 death. If ME4 brings Shepard back and gives us all the allies and romances we want onboard the normandy who would give a crap about how ME3 ended???

Well, for me the best idea is not to make a Sheppard game. A game where a new character saves (or kills) sheppard from/for being indoctrinated at the cost of his/her life, for me is the best idea ever.

[David7204]

Hardly. I know good and well people will ignore mistakes and shortcomings in mods that they would never forgive in games.

In addition, given that they an entire sub-forum dedicated to fan creations, including mods, it seems to be that they don't have a problem with mods at all.

[chidingewe8036]

all I am saying is if they decided to bring him back in an epic way, in such a way, the teaser trailer could be amazing and ME3 would be a distant memory. A brand new story or "fresh start" would be kinda meh after the way ME3 was recieved by many. Bringing Shep. back would kinda be Bioware's way of saying "we f ed up, we are sorry, lets give it one more go and this time go out with a bang"

call it fan service if you want but so be it..........then and only then can they "start fresh"

[M Hedonist]

chidingewe8036 wrote...

all I am saying is if they decided to bring him back in an epic way, in such a way, the teaser trailer could be amazing and ME3 would be a distant memory. A brand new story or "fresh start" would be kinda meh after the way ME3 was recieved by many. Bringing Shep. back would kinda be Bioware's way of saying "we f ed up, we are sorry, lets give it one more go and this time go out with a bang"

call it fan service if you want but so be it..........then and only then can they "start fresh"

I get it. You just want to get some real closure on Shepard's story.
If Bioware wanted to give us closure they would have done so in EC.

[GreyLycanTrope]

chidingewe8036 wrote...

Everyone seems to overlook Shepard's death in the suicide mission if ME4 brings back Shepard the same will be for Shepard's ME3 death. If ME4 brings Shepard back and gives us all the allies and romances we want onboard the normandy who would give a crap about how ME3 ended???

I would.

[Ironhandjustice]

chidingewe8036 wrote...

all I am saying is if they decided to bring him back in an epic way, in such a way, the teaser trailer could be amazing and ME3 would be a distant memory. A brand new story or "fresh start" would be kinda meh after the way ME3 was recieved by many. Bringing Shep. back would kinda be Bioware's way of saying "we f ed up, we are sorry, lets give it one more go and this time go out with a bang"

call it fan service if you want but so be it..........then and only then can they "start fresh"

I repeat the previously stated.

A fresh start during reaper war to explore all the aspects where sheppard could not go. A new character, a new story, a new background, new enemies, new threats.

This history has much more to offer, and for me choosing between your new character and sheppard could be an awesome point to the story since you can love both characters. This can make the indoctrination theory very good, even when at now, is not so beloved because is "forced" and you can't "break indoctrination" (well, I suppose that killing the reapers can break it)

[GreyLycanTrope]

David7204 wrote...

Hardly. I know good and well people will ignore mistakes and shortcomings in mods that they would never forgive in games.

Because mods are free and don't have the resources of a game developer, hence we're more forgiving.

[Ironhandjustice]

Sauruz wrote...

chidingewe8036 wrote...

all I am saying is if they decided to bring him back in an epic way, in such a way, the teaser trailer could be amazing and ME3 would be a distant memory. A brand new story or "fresh start" would be kinda meh after the way ME3 was recieved by many. Bringing Shep. back would kinda be Bioware's way of saying "we f ed up, we are sorry, lets give it one more go and this time go out with a bang"

call it fan service if you want but so be it..........then and only then can they "start fresh"

I get it. You just want to get some real closure on Shepard's story.
If Bioware wanted to give us closure they would have done so in EC.

Mmmmm... no.

Limited money, limited time, many angry fans trying to kill them. Perhaps they have only bought time with EC. When they say "no more DLC" I will start to believe they are done. Meanwhile, I'll be working on the MEHEM with the other guys

[David7204]

That's part of it, and a very good point. But mods have the same writing resources as professional developers. All it takes is a computer. Maybe some flowchart software.

[Ironhandjustice]

David7204 wrote...

Hardly. I know good and well people will ignore mistakes and shortcomings in mods that they would never forgive in games.

In addition, given that they an entire sub-forum dedicated to fan creations, including mods, it seems to be that they don't have a problem with mods at all.

Except that you can take three focus on modding things:

1) ignore them (Bioware position)
2) try to hunt them (you became a monster who hunt modders for being better than you. Unwise choice)
3) fuel them (Fallout - Bethesda Guys)

[chidingewe8036]

Halo had alot of strange after credit endings but The Chief kept coming back for more...........alot of games, movies, etc. have incomplete endings usually this means TO BE CONTINUED.........

Control, Synthesis, and Refuse are "what if" endings Destroy is the only ending that could bring Shepard back for another round. The other endings are "Shepard aint coming back and its over" type endings.

Destroy gives a sense of hope to the player, Shepard's allies and friends, etc.

[SpamBot2000]

David7204 wrote...

In addition, given that they an entire sub-forum dedicated to fan creations, including mods, it seems to be that they don't have a problem with mods at all.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghetto

[David7204]

I've never actually been to it. Ever. Maybe I should poke around now.

[zigamortis]

I want an indoctrination based sequel where shepard is the mentor to a new character like 20-60 years later.

[chidingewe8036]

The so called "best ending" is the canon ending

now if Shepard had died without any shadow of a doubt than that is different but to leave us hanging??? come on now Bioware.

They left it open for a reason...........not to create ME4: Play as Asari Scientist and explore the galaxy for rocks lol

[David7204]

Jesus Christ it's only four threads. With one post every two weeks.

Modifié par David7204, 17 décembre 2012 - 02:46 .

[GreyLycanTrope]

David7204 wrote...

That's part of it, and a very good point. But mods have the same writing resources as professional developers. All it takes is a computer. Maybe some flowchart software.

That's wrong. You're working within the confines of what the developer left you, you can't always write and produced entire scenes it's just not possible, most of the time you can only manipulate what already exists in game, move around a few sounds files/in game models and maybe add better or different textures to some of them. Translating that into something coherent isn't as easy as it sounds.

Modifié par Greylycantrope, 17 décembre 2012 - 02:48 .

[M Hedonist]

Ironhandjustice wrote...

Sauruz wrote...

chidingewe8036 wrote...

all I am saying is if they decided to bring him back in an epic way, in such a way, the teaser trailer could be amazing and ME3 would be a distant memory. A brand new story or "fresh start" would be kinda meh after the way ME3 was recieved by many. Bringing Shep. back would kinda be Bioware's way of saying "we f ed up, we are sorry, lets give it one more go and this time go out with a bang"

call it fan service if you want but so be it..........then and only then can they "start fresh"

I get it. You just want to get some real closure on Shepard's story.
If Bioware wanted to give us closure they would have done so in EC.

Mmmmm... no.

Limited money, limited time, many angry fans trying to kill them. Perhaps they have only bought time with EC. When they say "no more DLC" I will start to believe they are done. Meanwhile, I'll be working on the MEHEM with the other guys

Wait, why would you be working on MEHEM if you're expecting Bioware to make more ending content? I mean, why would you work to create a proper ending if you think Bioware will eventually make a proper ending, anyway? That's like two completely opposite sides on a spectrum.

[chidingewe8036]

Halo 3 basic ending gave no implications of another Halo game with chief as the main character but the best ending had him floating towards a planet that could have been interpreted as a "to be continued" moment...........maybe everyone thought that Chief would not be the main character in the next installement and maybe The Arbiter or someone would search for him and find him.

They did not have to bring Chief back but they did they could have not shown that planet and just ended it with him saying "wake me when you need me" and then all the fans could have headcanoned and speculated from there.

[chidingewe8036]

the "because they said so" thing i wave my hand at because ME3 is a clear indication that what they say don't me blank.

[crimzontearz]

Ironhandjustice wrote...

Sauruz wrote...

chidingewe8036 wrote...

all I am saying is if they decided to bring him back in an epic way, in such a way, the teaser trailer could be amazing and ME3 would be a distant memory. A brand new story or "fresh start" would be kinda meh after the way ME3 was recieved by many. Bringing Shep. back would kinda be Bioware's way of saying "we f ed up, we are sorry, lets give it one more go and this time go out with a bang"

call it fan service if you want but so be it..........then and only then can they "start fresh"

I get it. You just want to get some real closure on Shepard's story.
If Bioware wanted to give us closure they would have done so in EC.

Mmmmm... no.

Limited money, limited time, many angry fans trying to kill them. Perhaps they have only bought time with EC. When they say "no more DLC" I will start to believe they are done. Meanwhile, I'll be working on the MEHEM with the other guys

they only needed a SINGLE SLIDE in one of the goddamn EC epilogues to add enough closure to the living shepard


 
Hell canon word of god would be ENOUGH for me to buy ME3 back and all the DLCs


 
Is that so ****ing much to ask or too expensive?????

[M Hedonist]

chidingewe8036 wrote...

Control, Synthesis, and Refuse are "what if" endings Destroy is the only ending that could bring Shepard back for another round. The other endings are "Shepard aint coming back and its over" type endings.

Yes, Destroy is arguably the only ending where Shepard potentially lives. That doesn't make it any more or less canon than the other endings. Moot point is moot.

Destroy gives a sense of hope to the player, Shepard's allies and friends, etc.

Umm... what?
Destroy doesn't have hope. The Reapers are dead. Celebrations are in order. Or mourning if you really miss the Geth. What is there to hope for?
Refuse is a hopeful ending. There is hope, that somehow, eventually, the Reapers were defeated, possibly without using the Crucible. Well, that is unless you just assume the worst possible scenario.
Destroy on the other hand is a closed story, save for the ambiguity of Shepard's life.

Modifié par Sauruz, 17 décembre 2012 - 02:59 .

[crimzontearz]

Refuse is de facto not an ending

[HK-90210]

Umm...no. Bioware will do what Bioware thinks is best, regardless of fanbase wants. They will, however, take some EA deadlines, of course.